Is being able to play as the Taliban in the new MoH game disrespectful?

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#1 SalmonCatching
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I was wondering about this too. This has been in the news recently. I personally have no problem with playing as the Taliban and shooting US troops in multiplayer but since so many people are burying children, parents, siblings, etc that were killed by the Taliban recently should it be removed? My boyfriend is the FPS player of the two of us and he's pretty psyched about a new MoH game coming out that is like Modern Warfare. :P

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#2 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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No. You can play as nazis in many games. Why is the taliban any different?
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#3 coolbeans90
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No. You can play as nazis in many games. Why is the taliban any different?jaydough

Agreed.

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#4 kipohippo021
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No, just because its happening now? Also, is this even on the right board? Im not sure.

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#5 MillenialFair99
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I came into this thread to find a comment about your boyfriend. I'm disappointed. :(

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#6 SalmonCatching
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No. You can play as nazis in many games. Why is the taliban any different?jaydough
Just because it's more recent. I think that playing as Nazis during the 1940's would have been a problem if it was possible. I mean do you think kids could have dressed up like Nazi's for Halloween in the streets of Poland in 1946? The taliban is currently killing people in the US as we speak. Now, again, I don't have a problem with it but I'm just pointing out the situation.
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#7 Mythomniac
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I came into this thread to finda comment about your boyfriend. I'm disappointed. :(

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Wow, your right, yet again OP mentions his boyfriend...
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[QUOTE="jaydough"]No. You can play as nazis in many games. Why is the taliban any different?SalmonCatching
Just because it's more recent. I think that playing as Nazis during the 1940's would have been a problem if it was possible. I mean do you think kids could have dressed up like Nazi's for Halloween in the streets of Poland in 1946? The taliban is currently killing people in the US as we speak. Now, again, I don't have a problem with it but I'm just pointing out the situation.

Well, honestly, just because a few people are offended, doesn't mean we have to ruin it for everyone else.
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#9 FearCrow
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So its ok for the American Community to allow there 13 year old children to kill Russians,Taliban,Brazilian,Japanese,Vietnamese,Nazi, etc.But it's not ok for their children to kill Americans?
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#10 MillenialFair99
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[QUOTE="Mythomniac"][QUOTE="MillenialFair99"]

I came into this thread to finda comment about your boyfriend. I'm disappointed. :(

Wow, your right, yet again OP mentions his boyfriend...

I think it's on purpose, honestly. :P
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[QUOTE="jaydough"]No. You can play as nazis in many games. Why is the taliban any different?SalmonCatching
Just because it's more recent. I think that playing as Nazis during the 1940's would have been a problem if it was possible. I mean do you think kids could have dressed up like Nazi's for Halloween in the streets of Poland in 1946? The taliban is currently killing people in the US as we speak. Now, again, I don't have a problem with it but I'm just pointing out the situation.

There are other terrorists in games. MoH just gives them a real face in a real country.

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#12 carrot-cake
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[QUOTE="SalmonCatching"][QUOTE="jaydough"]No. You can play as nazis in many games. Why is the taliban any different?jaydough
Just because it's more recent. I think that playing as Nazis during the 1940's would have been a problem if it was possible. I mean do you think kids could have dressed up like Nazi's for Halloween in the streets of Poland in 1946? The taliban is currently killing people in the US as we speak. Now, again, I don't have a problem with it but I'm just pointing out the situation.

Well, honestly, just because a few people are offended, doesn't mean we have to ruin it for everyone else.


Exactly. If this isnt going to be allowed, then all games in which you must shoot a people from an organization, race, culture, etc which exists in reality musn't be allowed either.

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#13 juden41
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You know, I never thought of it that way, and it might offend someone, but it's just a game.
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#14 SalmonCatching
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[QUOTE="MillenialFair99"][QUOTE="Mythomniac"][QUOTE="MillenialFair99"]

I came into this thread to finda comment about your boyfriend. I'm disappointed. :(

Wow, your right, yet again OP mentions his boyfriend...

I think it's on purpose, honestly. :P

Umm... yes it is on purpose! When was the last sentence that you typed an accident? I mention him because I'm IN LOVE! :) :)
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#15 scorch-62
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sm128 showed me a video on Fox's website about this. I lol'd hard. Feel free to laugh with me.
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#16 J-WOW
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I came into this thread to find a comment about your boyfriend. I'm disappointed. :(

MillenialFair99
I me too, but the topic tittle didnt have the "..............guys who like guys............." in it
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#17 Pikdum
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So its ok for the American Community to allow there 13 year old children to kill Russians,Taliban,Brazilian,Japanese,Vietnamese,Nazi, etc.But it's not ok for their children to kill Americans? FearCrow

Hmm... good point.

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#18 foxhound_fox
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Disrespectful to whom? In order to properly represent the conflict, both sides need to be depicted.

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#19 Da_lil_PimP
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[QUOTE="MillenialFair99"]

I came into this thread to find a comment about your boyfriend. I'm disappointed. :(

J-WOW
I me too, but the topic tittle didnt have the "..............guys who like guys............." in it

Have you always been level 5?
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#20 SalmonCatching
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[QUOTE="J-WOW"][QUOTE="MillenialFair99"]

I came into this thread to find a comment about your boyfriend. I'm disappointed. :(

Da_lil_PimP
I me too, but the topic tittle didnt have the "..............guys who like guys............." in it

Have you always been level 5?

No, he was level 4 and 3 and 2 and 1 at one point.
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#21 stupid4
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How is it all disrespectful? I'm confused.

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#22 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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How is it all disrespectful? I'm confused.

stupid4
People find a way to be offended by everything.
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#23 SalmonCatching
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How is it all disrespectful? I'm confused.

stupid4
Again, I think that the game is fine because well, it's just a game. But imagine a similar game being played in 1946 Poland where you could control Nazi's killing Jews. I think that's why some people are upset.
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#24 Da_lil_PimP
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[QUOTE="SalmonCatching"][QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"][QUOTE="J-WOW"] I me too, but the topic tittle didnt have the "..............guys who like guys............." in it

Have you always been level 5?

No, he was level 4 and 3 and 2 and 1 at one point.

Well derp. I thought I remember him being at least in the 20's. Guess I'm insane.
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#25 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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[QUOTE="stupid4"]

How is it all disrespectful? I'm confused.

SalmonCatching
Again, I think that the game is fine because well, it's just a game. But imagine a similar game being played in 1946 Poland where you could control Nazi's killing Jews. I think that's why some people are upset.

Well, I don't think that the 9/11 terror attacks and such are comparable to the Holocaust, but I'd still support a similar game in a similar time period. If you're offended, DON'T PLAY IT.
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Again, I think that the game is fine because well, it's just a game. But imagine a similar game being played in 1946 Poland where you could control Nazi's killing Jews. I think that's why some people are upset.SalmonCatching

WWII movies started being made only a couple years after the end of the war. Games, much like movies, are a medium for depicting an event in history in a manner that lets viewers/players experience those events, without having actually been there. What is inherently "wrong" with letting players control the Taliban? You say its wrong, but not why.

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[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"][QUOTE="J-WOW"] Have you always been level 5?SalmonCatching
No, he was level 4 and 3 and 2 and 1 at one point.

Well derp. I thought I remember him being at least in the 20's. Guess I'm insane.

wut? I've seen some other guy with the same avatar, so maybe you're thinking about him. Maybe I should change my avatar :/
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#28 stanleycup98
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I don't think it will offend anyone. I don't know anybody who is planning on buying that horrible game.
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#29 Da_lil_PimP
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[QUOTE="SalmonCatching"][QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"] No, he was level 4 and 3 and 2 and 1 at one point.J-WOW
Well derp. I thought I remember him being at least in the 20's. Guess I'm insane.

wut? I've seen some other guy with the same avatar, so maybe you're thinking about him. Maybe I should change my avatar :/

That could be it. Will have to see the other guy to confirm though. I just thought you've been around here longer.
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#30 Desulated
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Disrespectful to whom? In order to properly represent the conflict, both sides need to be depicted.

foxhound_fox

You pretty much nailed it right there.

After all, a war game where you can only play as one side really seems like propaganda, doesn't it?

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#31 J-WOW
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[QUOTE="J-WOW"][QUOTE="SalmonCatching"] Well derp. I thought I remember him being at least in the 20's. Guess I'm insane.Da_lil_PimP
wut? I've seen some other guy with the same avatar, so maybe you're thinking about him. Maybe I should change my avatar :/

That could be it. Will have to see the other guy to confirm though. I just thought you've been around here longer.

Do you remember the avatar or have you actually seen my name "J-WOW" around here before?
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After all, a war game where you can only play as one side really seems like propaganda, doesn't it?Desulated

I would wholeheartedly agree with that. Which is one reason why I've always longed for a WWII game that contained a German campaign that depicts a Nazi-detractor and the effect that has one him and those around him... much like Das Boot, just not in a sub.

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#33 Desulated
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[QUOTE="Desulated"]After all, a war game where you can only play as one side really seems like propaganda, doesn't it?foxhound_fox


I would wholeheartedly agree with that. Which is one reason why I've always longed for a WWII game that contained a German campaign that depicts a Nazi-detractor and the effect that has one him and those around him... much like Das Boot, just not in a sub.

I have yet to see a game where you can play as a Nazi for once. :lol:

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Don't buy it if you're offended. I'm not buying it because I'm going to stick it out until SOCOM 4 comes out a few months later.
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="Desulated"]After all, a war game where you can only play as one side really seems like propaganda, doesn't it?Desulated


I would wholeheartedly agree with that. Which is one reason why I've always longed for a WWII game that contained a German campaign that depicts a Nazi-detractor and the effect that has one him and those around him... much like Das Boot, just not in a sub.

I have yet to see a game where you can play as a Nazi for once. :lol:


You can in Company of heroes. Although thats an RTS, but you still play as the Nazis pushing back the Allied forces.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="Desulated"]After all, a war game where you can only play as one side really seems like propaganda, doesn't it?Desulated


I would wholeheartedly agree with that. Which is one reason why I've always longed for a WWII game that contained a German campaign that depicts a Nazi-detractor and the effect that has one him and those around him... much like Das Boot, just not in a sub.

I have yet to see a game where you can play as a Nazi for once. :lol:

Battlefield 1942.

Incidentally, it is the best game of all time.

Therefore, games with nazis are better games.

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[QUOTE="SalmonCatching"] Again, I think that the game is fine because well, it's just a game. But imagine a similar game being played in 1946 Poland where you could control Nazi's killing Jews. I think that's why some people are upset.foxhound_fox


WWII movies started being made only a couple years after the end of the war. Games, much like movies, are a medium for depicting an event in history in a manner that lets viewers/players experience those events, without having actually been there. What is inherently "wrong" with letting players control the Taliban? You say its wrong, but not why.

And this is why I hate when people complain about what video games depict, but not the same thing that a movie would depict. It really pisses me off when people whine about games like Mass Effect and its "sex scene". The game is rated M for mature for a reason. Rated R movies sometimes have more sex scenes and violence in it than that. Yet I don't see people throwing a piss-fit about those titles. I thought rated M games were basically the equivalent rating of a rated R movie, yet people seem to want to throw a A rating on a game that has one sex scene....

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#38 Snipes_2
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No, You can play as Germans etc...in other games.

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[QUOTE="jaydough"]No. You can play as nazis in many games. Why is the taliban any different?coolbeans90

Agreed.

Then its agreed!
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#40 dracula_16
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Not at all. It's a good thing to provide a new perspective. Playing as terrorists in games is not a new concept.

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#41 urdead18
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No, You can play as Germans etc...in other games.

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As Germans? What's wrong with Germans? Are you referring to the Nazis?
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And this is why I hate when people complain about what video games depict, but not the same thing that a movie would depict. It really pisses me off when people whine about games like Mass Effect and its "sex scene". The game is rated M for mature for a reason. Rated R movies sometimes have more sex scenes and violence in it than that. Yet I don't see people throwing a piss-fit about those titles. I thought rated M games were basically the equivalent rating of a rated R movie, yet people seem to want to throw a A rating on a game that has one sex scene....

tocool340

That's because people actually respect movies as a form of art. Meanwhile, much of the public still sees videogames as stupid kid's stuff.

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#43 Desulated
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Battlefield 1942.

Incidentally, it is the best game of all time.

Therefore, games with nazis are better games.

jaydough

How can I forget that...and also Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory.

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No. You can play as nazis in many games. Why is the taliban any different?jaydough

Agreed.

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

No, You can play as Germans etc...in other games.

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As Germans? What's wrong with Germans? Are you referring to the Nazis?

The Nazis were German No? I prefer to say German instead of Nazi.
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#46 TheShadowLord07
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No, You can play as Germans etc...in other games.

Snipes_2

but thats only in multi player. what about single player? I havent seen alot of wwII games that could allow me to play as a nazi or japanese in single player.

imagine what would happen if you could play as a taliban in single player?

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Some people are such hypocritical crybabies.
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#48 disharmonized
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I came into this thread to find a comment about your boyfriend. I'm disappointed. :(

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Me too. I came in and saw the TC and hoped he wouldnt mention him again but somehow did. About the topic though, I don't think its disrespectful, I assume you have a choice whether you play as them or not.
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#50 CleanPlayer
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You can play terrorist in counterstrike/call of duty....nazis in call of duty/medal of honor. I see nothing wrong, it's just a game