http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/16/homeless-couple-shot-sheriff_n_3768663.html
I personally think they deserve more, dude lost his leg after all and the animals that shot him got away clean.
What do you guys think?
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what message do you think it sends?It's not about the money. It's about sending a message.
InEMplease
It's enough and I'll bet you they're back on the street again homeless at some point in their lives.
what message do you think it sends?[QUOTE="VaguelyTagged"][QUOTE="InEMplease"]
It's not about the money. It's about sending a message.
InEMplease
Police are not above the law.
i haven't read the article honestly, but from what i understood by reading the comments, the cop who did this go away with this, if this is true , the message is a bit more complicated than that.i haven't read the article honestly, but from what i understood by reading the comments, the cop who did this go away with this, if this is true , the message is a bit more complicated than that.[QUOTE="VaguelyTagged"][QUOTE="InEMplease"]
Police are not above the law.
InEMplease
"The couple was awarded $4.1 million when a judge ruled their civil rights were violated. The deputies involved were cleared of any wrongdoing in an internal investigation."
I feel the message is clear as crystal.
Rofl......what a fvcking jokeI don't have much of an internal or external barometer for how much people should be rewarded for incidents such as this. I'm glad to see police officers not getting away with shooting innocent people though.
edit, whoops spoke too soon, last sentence of the article says they were cleared of any wrongdoing. If they were not in the wrong why award the couple anything?
It's enough and I'll bet you they're back on the street again homeless at some point in their lives.
junglist101
Correct. Money in the hands of people who don't know how to manage money soon changes hands. :(
If the state doesn't contrive a way to take it back, then somebody else will relieve them of it sooner or later.
Why does that matter?It's enough and I'll bet you they're back on the street again homeless at some point in their lives.
junglist101
What's the standard operating procedure when a cop sees a gun or an gun look-a-like? I can understand the cops' concern when seeing a weapon but I think they went too far, and that's an understatement.
"Deserve" has nothing to do with it. The victim of a tort only "deserves" the compensation that makes up for whatever they were a victim of. In this case, that's the discounted lifetime lost earnings and value of his limb for the man and woman, which certainly does not add up to 4.1 million dollars.
I personally think they deserve more, dude lost his leg after all and the animals that shot him got away clean.
What do you guys think?
dominer
"Deserve" has nothing to do with it. The victim of a tort only "deserves" the compensation that makes up for whatever they were a victim of. In this case, that's the discounted lifetime lost earnings and value of his limb for the man and woman, which certainly does not add up to 4.1 million dollars.[ I don't think you can say that with certainty without knowing how long this family will be working in the future, how productive they will be in the future and how expensive items will be in the future. Also have to factor in the medical costs of removing fourteen bullets from a man and one bullet from a pregnant woman, plus psychological trauma if you consider that to be a thing.[QUOTE="dominer"]
I personally think they deserve more, dude lost his leg after all and the animals that shot him got away clean.
What do you guys think?
radicalcentrist
I don't think you can say that with certainty without knowing how long this family will be working in the future, how productive they will be in the future and how expensive items will be in the future. Also have to factor in the medical costs of removing fourteen bullets from a man and one bullet from a pregnant woman, plus psychological trauma if you consider that to be a thing. Barbariser
"Deserve" has nothing to do with it. The victim of a tort only "deserves" the compensation that makes up for whatever they were a victim of. In this case, that's the discounted lifetime lost earnings and value of his limb for the man and woman, which certainly does not add up to 4.1 million dollars.[QUOTE="dominer"]
I personally think they deserve more, dude lost his leg after all and the animals that shot him got away clean.
What do you guys think?
radicalcentrist
Punitive damages.
Any compensation they receive should come from the people involved (the individual police officers). Why should the innocent taxpayer be held responsible to the tune of 4.1 million dollars? Party A injures party B, so we rob party C to compensate party B while party A goes unpunished.It's astounding that he survived. And yes, they obviously deserve compensation.
pianist
[QUOTE="pianist"]Any compensation they receive should come from the people involved (the individual police officers). Why should the innocent taxpayer be held responsible to the tune of 4.1 million dollars? Party A injures party B, so we rob party C to compensate party B while party A goes unpunished.It's astounding that he survived. And yes, they obviously deserve compensation.
famicommander
Taxpayers are the investors and the owners of cops. I'm also sure that party A lost his job.
I'm also sure that party A lost his job.Wasdiedoesn't seem like it.
The deputies involved were cleared of any wrongdoing in an internal investigation.Article
Am I the only one that is surprised they shot the man 14 times? How many times do you need to shoot someone to feel you have control of the situation? How can they be cleared of shooting someone 14 times? How do you defend shooting someone 14 times? How do you defend that position and come out with all charges cleared? Not to mention shooting a pregnant woman in her back. That ruling is ludicrous.
Any compensation they receive should come from the people involved (the individual police officers). Why should the innocent taxpayer be held responsible to the tune of 4.1 million dollars? Party A injures party B, so we rob party C to compensate party B while party A goes unpunished.[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="pianist"]
It's astounding that he survived. And yes, they obviously deserve compensation.
Wasdie
Taxpayers are the investors and the owners of cops. I'm also sure that party A lost his job.
Investment is voluntary. Taxation is not.this is what kept pestering me holy hell! 14 bullets onto a single man, and he survived! and his pregnant wife got shot twice, and the baby was still born in full health!Am I the only one that is surprised they shot the man 14 times? How many times do you need to shoot someone to feel you have control of the situation? How can they be cleared of shooting someone 14 times? How do you defend shooting someone 14 times? How do you defend that position and come out with all charges cleared? Not to mention shooting a pregnant woman in her back. That ruling is ludicrous.
Zlurodirom
Yes. Instantly, without hesitation. I'll do it right now. Want a leg? Hell, I'll also throw in a few toes and a testicle. you're kidding, right?[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]
Of course more money. Would you, say, sell your leg for $4 mil?
Makhaidos
[QUOTE="Makhaidos"]Yes. Instantly, without hesitation. I'll do it right now. Want a leg? Hell, I'll also throw in a few toes and a testicle. you're kidding, right? I'm kidding about doing it right now, because I'll want the payment up front. But would I give up a leg for four million dollars? Honest-to-God, yes.[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]
Of course more money. Would you, say, sell your leg for $4 mil?
Mystery_Writer
I'm kidding about doing it right now, because I'll want the payment up front. But would I give up a leg for four million dollars? Honest-to-God, yes.Makhaidos
I'm honestly shocked if you're not kidding.
It's a friggin' leg man! wtf is $4 mil compared to a leg?!
not even Bill Gates' fortune worth a toe, let alone $4mil
it's simply priceless
[QUOTE="InEMplease"]Rofl......what a fvcking joke"The couple was awarded $4.1 million when a judge ruled their civil rights were violated. The deputies involved were cleared of any wrongdoing in an internal investigation."
I feel the message is clear as crystal.
Rich3232
sadly it actually is a joke
i haven't read the article honestly, but from what i understood by reading the comments, the cop who did this go away with this, if this is true , the message is a bit more complicated than that.[QUOTE="VaguelyTagged"][QUOTE="InEMplease"]
Police are not above the law.
InEMplease
"The couple was awarded $4.1 million when a judge ruled their civil rights were violated. The deputies involved were cleared of any wrongdoing in an internal investigation."
I feel the message is clear as crystal.
Such a shame. Both of those statements contradict each other. The cops violated their civil rights, yet they were cleared of any wrongdoings. Damn BS. The attitude/image towards the police in the US is NOT getting any better.they need to be sued more, the police don't actually pay it they're probably insured for settlements, what they need to do is increase the damages so the cost to insure police officers goes up so much the departments are forced to fire them or actually let officers go who cost them money.lamprey263We the taxpayers pay it...
[QUOTE="Makhaidos"] I'm kidding about doing it right now, because I'll want the payment up front. But would I give up a leg for four million dollars? Honest-to-God, yes.Mystery_Writer
I'm honestly shocked if you're not kidding.
It's a friggin' leg man! wtf is $4 mil compared to a leg?!
not even Bill Gates' fortune worth a toe, let alone $4mil
it's simply priceless
To be fair living with only one leg would be a lot easier if you're rich.[QUOTE="Makhaidos"] I'm kidding about doing it right now, because I'll want the payment up front. But would I give up a leg for four million dollars? Honest-to-God, yes.Mystery_Writer
I'm honestly shocked if you're not kidding.
It's a friggin' leg man! wtf is $4 mil compared to a leg?!
not even Bill Gates' fortune worth a toe, let alone $4mil
it's simply priceless
Yeah, but I got another one. Way I figure it, I come out of that deal the winner. I could always buy a new one if I needed it.[QUOTE="VaguelyTagged"][QUOTE="InEMplease"] i haven't read the article honestly, but from what i understood by reading the comments, the cop who did this go away with this, if this is true , the message is a bit more complicated than that.InEMplease
"The couple was awarded $4.1 million when a judge ruled their civil rights were violated. The deputies involved were cleared of any wrongdoing in an internal investigation."
I feel the message is clear as crystal.
WTFCops shoot people, then instead of being punished for it the state pays off the victims with money they stole from other innocent people. The "justice" system at work.famicommanderAgreed. The fukin cops must be punished.
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