High Gun Ownership Makes Countries Less Safe, AJM Finds

The American Journal of Medicine published a study concering gun ownership and public safety and it looks as if it debunks many of the propagandistic misnomers we've receive from pro-gun advocates within the US.  

Generally speaking, developed countries with the most gun ownership are far less safer than those with the least amount of ownership within the developed countries -- South Africa being the exception.  Regarding gun ownership and crime, they found that there was no significant correlation between guns per capita per country and the decreased crime rate, invalidating the claim that more guns translates into less crime. Conversely, the authors also stated that "high crime rates may instigate widespread anxiety and fear, thereby motivating people to arm themselves and give rise to increased gun ownership, which, in turn, increases availability. The resulting vicious cycle could, bit-by-bit, lead to the polarized status that is now the case with the US. Regardless of exact cause and effect, however, the current study debunks the widely quoted hypothesis purporting to show that countries with the higher gun ownership are safer than those with low gun ownership"  

On the issue of mental illness and gun related deaths, they've determined that there does exist a correlation between the two but it was of borderline significance.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/18/gun-ownership-gun-deaths-study

Study: http://www.amjmed.com/webfiles/images/journals/ajm/AJM12080.pdf

Not implementing background/mental checks is what makes the US a dangerous place. NRA needs to initiate a background check for all applicants; other than that, nothing else. Piece of shit liberals are speaking through their assholes.Ackad

[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="Ackad"]Not implementing background/mental checks is what makes the US a dangerous place. NRA needs to initiate a background check for all applicants; other than that, nothing else. Piece of shit liberals are speaking through their assholes.Ackad

[QUOTE="Ackad"]Not implementing background/mental checks is what makes the US a dangerous place. NRA needs to initiate a background check for all applicants; other than that, nothing else. Piece of shit liberals are speaking through their assholes.Makhaidos

Not implementing background/mental checks is what makes the US a dangerous place. NRA needs to initiate a background check for all applicants; other than that, nothing else. Piece of shit liberals are speaking through their assholes.Ackad

What the frack? We have background checks, and even then, it's not easy to determine who has a mental illness and who doesn't.

Our gun crime rate is going down, not up and these shootings are random, it's almost impossible to predict them.

Gun ownership isn't the issue. Full background checks and increase awareness and treatment of mental illness will do more to prevent these crimes. Look at home many people could have raised a red flag for the Navy Yard shooter.

Kind of a poorly written article that has a clear spin that is against gun ownership. The study was specifically looking at gun related deaths, not overall homicide rates. Of course the USA has higher gun related deaths. Place with the most guns will have the most gun homocides and the most gun releated deaths. That's just pure logic.

More guns meant more deaths, they found. "The gun ownership rate was a strong and independent predictor of firearm-related death," says Bangalore. "Private gun ownership was highest in the US. Japan, on the other end, had an extremely low gun ownership rate. Similarly, South Africa (9.4 per 100,000) and the US (10.2 per 100,000) had extremely high firearm-related deaths, whereas the United Kingdom (0.25 per 100,000) had an extremely low rate of firearm-related deaths.

The Guardian

Didn't need a study to prove common sense. 

Overall the homocide rate in the US is overall higher than most of the developed world but gun related fatalities have been falling steadly since 1993. All homocides have actually been falling since then. Generally the higher murder rates in this nation can be tied with high amounts of gang violence and drug crime related violence. It's really more evidence that our war on drugs has only hurt this country.

So while violent crimes have been decreasing the amount of media coverage over these incidents has greatly increased and has made it seem like these make up the majority of gun crime. More people are slaughtered in Chicago on a weekend by guns than in the last two mass shooting combined. Clearly there are more issues here in the USA.

There is also no evidence to show that increased background checks is going to lower gun crime. At least none I've ever read or seen. If there is some I would love to see it. From what I've seen background checks and bans on certain weapons hasn't helped Chicago much.

Link: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/08/27/Harvard-Study-Shows-No-Correlation-Between-Strict-Gun-Control-And-Less-Crime-Violence

Study: http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

Eastern European nations essentially prove that high gun ownership rates do not make a country less safe. The real issue surrounding firearms in the US is mental health of the population and the overall awareness of firearms. The 2nd Amendment of the United States involves firearms yet we seem to shy aware from speaking about it. The public should be more well informed about firearms and not less. 

Link: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/08/27/Harvard-Study-Shows-No-Correlation-Between-Strict-Gun-Control-And-Less-Crime-Violence

Study: http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

 

Eastern European nations essentially prove that high gun ownership rates do not make a country less safe. The real issue surrounding firearms in the US is mental health of the population and the overall awareness of firearms. The 2nd Amendment of the United States involves firearms yet we seem to shy aware from speaking about it. The public should be more well informed about firearms and not less. 

Nonstop-Madness

Often what I see is the people who are totally oblivious and uneducated about firearms are at the forefront of the gun-control debate. 

Switzerland says otherwise....LJS9502_basic

Kind of a poorly written article that has a clear spin that is against gun ownership. The study was specifically looking at gun related deaths, not overall homicide rates. Of course the USA has higher gun related deaths. Place with the most guns will have the most gun homocides and the most gun releated deaths. That's just pure logic.

[quote="The Guardian"]

More guns meant more deaths, they found. "The gun ownership rate was a strong and independent predictor of firearm-related death," says Bangalore. "Private gun ownership was highest in the US. Japan, on the other end, had an extremely low gun ownership rate. Similarly, South Africa (9.4 per 100,000) and the US (10.2 per 100,000) had extremely high firearm-related deaths, whereas the United Kingdom (0.25 per 100,000) had an extremely low rate of firearm-related deaths.

Wasdie

Didn't need a study to prove common sense. 

Overall the homocide rate in the US is overall higher than most of the developed world but gun related fatalities have been falling steadly since 1993. All homocides have actually been falling since then. Generally the higher murder rates in this nation can be tied with high amounts of gang violence and drug crime related violence. It's really more evidence that our war on drugs has only hurt this country.

So while violent crimes have been decreasing the amount of media coverage over these incidents has greatly increased and has made it seem like these make up the majority of gun crime. More people are slaughtered in Chicago on a weekend by guns than in the last two mass shooting combined. Clearly there are more issues here in the USA.

There is also no evidence to show that increased background checks is going to lower gun crime. At least none I've ever read or seen. If there is some I would love to see it. From what I've seen background checks and bans on certain weapons hasn't helped Chicago much.

>Controls for no variables.

Probably written by some undergrad.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Switzerland says otherwise....Nibroc420

How far are people really willing to go on this Crusade for Safety? Seriously...

Civilian gun ownership per capita.

Homocides per capita

Yep no correlation at all :roll:

Judging by that chart, the Danes need to reel those Greenlanders in and teach them some order. Holy crap.

Civilian gun ownership per capita.

Homocides per capita

Yep no correlation at all :roll:

themajormayor

Uhm. South Africa is not a developed country.themajormayor

Four pages. Really?CptJSparrow

Oh look, another study that fails to link gun ownership to the causality of crimes while presenting it as if it does. The next study is going to link higher rates of car ownership with more vehicle deaths I bet!

Oh look, another study that fails to link gun ownership to the causality of crimes while presenting it as if it does. The next study is going to link higher rates of car ownership with more vehicle deaths I bet!

 

DJ419

nope

Switzerland says hi. 

The study only seems to focus on firearm deaths (duh more guns are going to lead to more gun deaths). The correlation coefficient for guns vs overall crime rate is 0.33 and is therefore statistically insignificant, but I wonder what its value is for the overall homicide rate.

It's not a shame to have any of you folk armed.

"Guns are criminal. If you touch one you have committed a crime. Only government is responsible to use them."

It's not a shame to have any of you folk armed.

"Guns are criminal. If you touch one you have committed a crime. Only government is responsible to use them."

LOXO7

[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

It's not a shame to have any of you folk armed.

"Guns are criminal. If you touch one you have committed a crime. Only government is responsible to use them."

SolidSnake35

It isn't necessary for you to be posting on a gaming forum right now, yet here you are.

Makes perfect sense. More guns= more death. Its just that simpleCapitan_Kid

sigh, just look at themajormayor's post.

[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

It's not a shame to have any of you folk armed.

"Guns are criminal. If you touch one you have committed a crime. Only government is responsible to use them."

SolidSnake35

Makes perfect sense. More guns= more death. Its just that simpleCapitan_Kid

Wouldn't you know, the nanny state has the highest crime rate in America (at least of 2012)..

http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/chicago-fbi-homicide-report-224396461.html

Ackad

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

Civilian gun ownership per capita.

Homocides per capita

Yep no correlation at all :roll:

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