Fort Hood Massacre? Was it a terrorist attack or not?

I was watching the O'Reilly factor (yes I'm republican) and a guest who was a former Army Officer said his muslum faith had to do with it because he was highly muslum, arguing with ruturning vets about the war, etc. What's your oppinion? And Bill O'Riely said that it was only a terrorist attack if it was planned ahead, so dont jump to conclusions, non republicans. I think his faith had something to do with it.

I actually live 10 minutes away from Fort Hood, no lie. It was pretty scary. But I'm not sure why it happened.

So what your saying is that only Muslims are capable of Terrorist attacks?

No, it was not a terrorist attack.

And even if it was, who cares? There's no army behind ONE PERSON that snapped.

The best thing "the media" can do is assure watchers that this is very rare and there's probably no reason to fear.

I see FOX hasn't been handling this responsibly.

From what I've found so far the guy was a Army Psychologist and snapped after he found out he was being deployed. That's as far as i've found, nothing suggesting a terrorist attack.

I thought a terrorist attack was on civilians? Either way, I think religion played a role, the guy probably just snapped. I doubt he was trying to incite terror, but just was fed up a la Full Metal Jacket.

So what your saying is that only Muslims are capable of Terrorist attacks?

RiseAgainst12

no, and there was nothing that implided that.

Oh! I remember now! It was because he has been threatened alot lately because of his race and religion, and he finally snapped. That's coming from local news there folks, yep, I LIVE there.

No it wasn't a terrorist attack. The guy had been discriminated against and snapped.

He wasn't very stable in the first place. He got ticked off because he bottled-in all of the discrimination he recieved from his peers. That's not a good reason though.

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So what your saying is that only Muslims are capable of Terrorist attacks?

megahaloman64

no, and there was nothing that implided that.

It was a terrorist attack. Strangely, many people believe that abortion clinic bombings are terrorist attacks.

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So what your saying is that only Muslims are capable of Terrorist attacks?

RiseAgainst12

no, and there was nothing that implided that.

I didn't say it anyways the officer did

[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"]Well the army officer, according to you said "his muslum faith had to do with it because he was highly muslum" which to me seemed he was implying that his muslim faith led him to commit the attack (which he claims terrorist?) and then at the end you said.. "I think his faith had something to do with it." As if you agree with his view. Now why you take his faith into consideration when debating weither it was a terrorist attack or not is where i got that from.. Apologies if i was wrong in that.. but it was just what i picked up.megahaloman64

I didn't say it anyways the officer did

I was watching the O'Reilly factor (yes I'm republican) and a guest who was a former Army Officer said his muslum faith had to do with it because he was highly muslum, arguing with ruturning vets about the war, etc. What's your oppinion? And Bill O'Riely said that it was only a terrorist attack if it was planned ahead, so dont jump to conclusions, non republicans. I think his faith had something to do with it.

In the original post megahaloman64

you did say it.

and, RiseAgainst12;

he didn't say only muslims can be terrorists; he just said that the guy's beliefs had something to do with it.

No I don't think it was a terrorist attack.

and, RiseAgainst12;

he didn't say only muslims can be terrorists; he just said that the guy's beliefs had something to do with it.

smc91352

So what your saying is that only Muslims are capable of Terrorist attacks?

RiseAgainst12

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So what your saying is that only Muslims are capable of Terrorist attacks?

12345678ew

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So what your saying is that only Muslims are capable of Terrorist attacks?

12345678ew

I guess it could be considered a 'terrorist attack' since he did instill terror in those around him (and I'm sure, throughout the nation)

I was watching the O'Reilly factor (yes I'm republican) and a guest who was a former Army Officer said his muslum faith had to do with it because he was highly muslum, arguing with ruturning vets about the war, etc. What's your oppinion? And Bill O'Riely said that it was only a terrorist attack if it was planned ahead, so dont jump to conclusions, non republicans. I think his faith had something to do with it.

megahaloman64

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So what your saying is that only Muslims are capable of Terrorist attacks?

12345678ew

Oklahoma City bombings. Committed by Timothy McVeigh. Pretty white if you ask me.

No it was not a terrorist attack but some will spin it into a terrorist attack to try and keep and restore faith behind the war.

I was watching the O'Reilly factor (yes I'm republican) and a guest who was a former Army Officer said his muslum faith had to do with it because he was highly muslum, arguing with ruturning vets about the war, etc. What's your oppinion? And Bill O'Riely said that it was only a terrorist attack if it was planned ahead, so dont jump to conclusions, non republicans. I think his faith had something to do with it.

megahaloman64

No. It wasn't a terrorist attack. He had a psychological breakdown after receiving much hate and harsh remarks from his fellow soldiers.

I'm in the middle of the politics spectrum, but I do lean towards Republican. I was watching FOX and I saw the headline and it at the end of it was ",also muslim."

I was like REALLY? They NEED to put that there? Just because you follow a certain religion doesn't mean you're a terrorist.

Don't forget, the people who almost brought the native americans to extinction were mostly white christians.

From what I've been hearing, he shouted "Allah Ackbar" while he went on the rampage. I doubt it was a terrorist attack, but if he indeed was screaming that while shooting, how could his faith not be involved?

Seems to me it's a classic case of can't stand my job and I have no way to cope since I'm the guy everyone goes to.

From what I've been hearing, he shouted "Allah Ackbar" while he went on the rampage. I doubt it was a terrorist attack, but if he indeed was screaming that while shooting, how could his faith not be involved?

Rekunta

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From what I've been hearing, he shouted "Allah Ackbar" while he went on the rampage. I doubt it was a terrorist attack, but if he indeed was screaming that while shooting, how could his faith not be involved?

lightleggy

Because Allah Ackbar means "God is great", he's not asking for forgiveness or help, that to me sounds like he thinks he's doing God's will. Either way, faith was involved regardless.

you know whats weird? i was reading about the columbine shooting and this happened.

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From what I've been hearing, he shouted "Allah Ackbar" while he went on the rampage. I doubt it was a terrorist attack, but if he indeed was screaming that while shooting, how could his faith not be involved?

Rekunta

Because Allah Ackbar means "God is great", he's not asking for forgiveness or help, that to me sounds like he thinks he's doing God's will. Either way, faith was involved regardless.

I still give him the benefit of the doubt.

I very much believe the media (especially the sensational FOX) would take something he said and completely take it out of context.

ie. "God bless you" could be said (when someone sneezed) and it would have nothing to do with it.

The details do give credibility to the notion that religion had something to do with it...

but not the notion that his religion made him do it; just that religious decrimination upset him and he cracked.

As eplained before a terrorist attack is a premeditated attack on a small number of individuals or property meant to instill fear in those that are around it and are meant to acheive some sort of political goal. This was not a terrorist attack.

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"] so when a soldier says something like "GOD PLS HELP ME!!!!" because he has a faith, does it means he is in a terrorist attack. The guy was muslim, he had faith, he realized he was raiding a 26k soldiers base and that he had already killed some men, why wouldn't he say something like "God forgive me, God help me!"?smc91352

Because Allah Ackbar means "God is great", he's not asking for forgiveness or help, that to me sounds like he thinks he's doing God's will. Either way, faith was involved regardless.

I still give him the benefit of the doubt.

I very much believe the media (especially the sensational FOX) would take something he said and completely take it out of context.

ie. "God bless you" could be said (when someone sneezed) and it would have nothing to do with it.

The details do give credibility to the notion that religion had something to do with it...

but not the notion that his religion made him do it; just that religious decrimination upset him and he cracked.

OK, I can agree with that.

I honestly think it was. His family ties aren't exactly pro american, then again I could only image the treatment he was getting in the military.. the persecution especially when he went overseas.. it could have been a mental breakdown.

The guy was also getting dumped on emotionally from every trainwrecked soldier that came his way. Who wouldn't go insane seeing that type of trauma? Not to justify his actions or anything....

The guy was also getting dumped on emotionally from every trainwrecked soldier that came his way. Who wouldn't go insane seeing that type of trauma? Not to justify his actions or anything....

Rekunta

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The guy was also getting dumped on emotionally from every trainwrecked soldier that came his way. Who wouldn't go insane seeing that type of trauma? Not to justify his actions or anything....

DeadMagazines

Like I'm saying, it's not an excuse for his actions, but some people just can't hack it and can't detach themselves. Many find themselves over their head and don't know what they're getting into until it's too late. Y'know, mostsuicides in the medical profession are from females, because they do absorb other peoples problems. Some can't help it. Maybe it wasn't the case for him, who knows, but it might've been. From what it sounds like though, his opposition to the war had something to do with it.

I'm not making excuses for him, just speculating on why he did what he did.

Of course all the Fox News bigots would love to say it was caused by his religion, his race, his ideals, blah blah. Truth to the matter is he was fed up and decided to release all the pent up hate and flak he was recieving from people. Too bad people died becuase of it though.

From my understanding the physiologist (shooter) just snapped (sort of ironic if you think about it) after learning he would be deployed.

Well, I think it was more of a retaliation to being sent over to Iraq, considering he came from there. If that was a terrorist attack, by the way, then so were the other shootings this year.

It wasn't a guy who snapped. He thought about it, planned it, and then executed his plan. It was a terrorist attack. Maybe not ordered by any group leaders. And the guy's cousin is pretty shady and a liar. I don't buy the stress b.s or the harassment b.s.

Strangely, many people believe that abortion clinic bombings are terrorist attacks.

Genetic_Code

I thought attacking military targets were considered fair game? The Major was fighting on the behalf of muslims, who are fighting the US in Iraq and Afghanistan, and carried out a methodical shooting of military personnel.

I dont think you can him a terrorist, traitor perhaps. Try him for treason.