Do you truly believe god exists?

Just curious to see how many people around here actually believe got exists. I personally believe that god does but I am confused and probably always will be confused about how he just exists and has no beginning.

Just curious to see how many people around here actually believe got exists. I personally believe that god does but I am confused and probably always will be confused about how he just exists and has no beginning.

whitetiger3521

No I do not.

Where is the 'believe either way is possible' option?

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Just curious to see how many people around here actually believe got exists. I personally believe that god does but I am confused and probably always will be confused about how he just exists and has no beginning.

bsman00

creator of the universe

Yeah, I do.

I believe in ALLAH we all should believe in him.

It's difficult for me to comprehend the idea of God not existing. Even if I was not a Christian I'd at the very least be a deist.

Just curious to see how many people around here actually believe got exists. I personally believe that god does but I am confused and probably always will be confused about how he just exists and has no beginning.

whitetiger3521

yes i do

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Just curious to see how many people around here actually believe got exists. I personally believe that god does but I am confused and probably always will be confused about how he just exists and has no beginning.

mindstorm

I believe in Cthulhu. Does that count?

I have even crafted a shrine in his honour.

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Just curious to see how many people around here actually believe got exists. I personally believe that god does but I am confused and probably always will be confused about how he just exists and has no beginning.

Pirate700

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[QUOTE="mindstorm"] Either God has no beginning or matter has no beginning. Which is harder to grasp?Jandurin

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Just curious to see how many people around here actually believe got exists. I personally believe that god does but I am confused and probably always will be confused about how he just exists and has no beginning.

Pirate700

To me, actually, the former is easier to grasp. I'm not saying it's not possible for a god or gods to exist, I just don't think that it/they do/does.

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[QUOTE="mindstorm"] Either God has no beginning or matter has no beginning. Which is harder to grasp?Jandurin

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Definitely the latter which is why, even though I'm not religious, I still believe in the possibility of a god like entity.

mindstorm

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Definitely the latter which is why, even though I'm not religious, I still believe in the possibility of a god like entity.

Pirate700

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Definitely the latter which is why, even though I'm not religious, I still believe in the possibility of a god like entity.

mindstorm

Nobody's saying God could not have just always been. However, his point simply was that, rather than a god creating everything, and itself having always existed, maybe the universe has simply always existed.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Definitely the latter which is why, even though I'm not religious, I still believe in the possibility of a god like entity.

Pirate700

You do realize that that exact same logic could be applied to God?

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Definitely the latter which is why, even though I'm not religious, I still believe in the possibility of a god like entity.

Pirate700

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"] Why can't things just have always been?Jandurin

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"] Why can't things just have always been?chessmaster1989

You do realize that that exact same logic could be applied to God?

"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]It's impossible for something to always have been there. You can argue that something can last forever, but it still has to start somewhere. Something not having ANY beginning is totally absurd. How can something exist if it never started??

Pirate700

You do realize that that exact same logic could be applied to God?

Oh, alright, sorry. I thought you were arguing that God must exist. My bad ;).

"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."

bsman00

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You do realize that that exact same logic could be applied to God?

chessmaster1989

Oh, alright, sorry. I thought you were arguing that God must exist. My bad ;).

Yes, yes and yes.

And even at the very beginning of that, there would still have to be something to begin THAT process. It's a never ending cycle.

Pirate700

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And even at the very beginning of that, there would still have to be something to begin THAT process. It's a never ending cycle.

Jandurin

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Again, yes I do which is why it's so deep. If God created everything, then what created God?

Pirate700

Oh, alright, sorry. I thought you were arguing that God must exist. My bad ;).

Well, the infinite sum of finite values can be infinite (or finite :P), so that's a possibility :P.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Again, yes I do which is why it's so deep. If God created everything, then what created God?

Oh, alright, sorry. I thought you were arguing that God must exist. My bad ;).

Yeah, I do.

Just curious to see how many people around here actually believe got exists. I personally believe that god does but I am confused and probably always will be confused about how he just exists and has no beginning.

whitetiger3521

I do often wonder who/what/how GOD was created. it's hard to think that while everything else that we know that exists has/had a beginning/creation, but we are taught that GOD always has been.

I've got to say this is the best thread about this I have seen so far with the most reasonable answers overall.

I also think it is possible the universe has always existed and also don't discount the idea of a god-type entity. Just in no way shape or form a god of religion.

I think it's really unlogical and childish to believe in God.

I believe!