Do you need to be smart to be a rapper?

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#1 BeNOwNz
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Do you need to finish high school/college to become a rapper or do you need to know people and know how to rap?
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#2 AngelsFan32
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LMAO...NO!!!
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If you want to be the Tupac, Nas, Jay-Z, Talib Kweli, Common then yes, YOU NEED TO BE SMART.

NO ONE WANTS A 50 CENT or LIL JON
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If you want to be the Tupac, Nas, Jay-Z, Talib Kweli, Common then yes, YOU NEED TO BE SMART.

NO ONE WANTS A 50 CENT or LIL JON
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Yes because, Tupac went to school, and so did Nas...right.
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Yes, if your rapping about something with a point or moral

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all good rappers are/were smart.... the stupid ones are on the radio... your better off being an idiot if you wanna be a famous rapper....
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no all you need is a rhyming dictionary and a computer
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#8 cjek
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It's a rare gift that an incredibly small number of people have ever acquired. I wouldn't say it's based on intelligence.
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#9 jealentus
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Any old dumbass can rap, but it takes intellegence to make good rap. Grap.
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[QUOTE="dfnj123"]If you want to be the Tupac, Nas, Jay-Z, Talib Kweli, Common then yes, YOU NEED TO BE SMART.

NO ONE WANTS A 50 CENT or LIL JON
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Yes because, Tupac went to school, and so did Nas...right.

going to school doesnt make you smart....getting all A's doesnt make you smart.... your smart when you have a good mind that can think clearly, understand things that arent taught to you, and can easily learn....you dont even use the stuff you learn at school....
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no, ive never heard of a really smart rapper
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[QUOTE="AngelsFan32"][QUOTE="dfnj123"]If you want to be the Tupac, Nas, Jay-Z, Talib Kweli, Common then yes, YOU NEED TO BE SMART.

NO ONE WANTS A 50 CENT or LIL JON
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Yes because, Tupac went to school, and so did Nas...right.

going to school doesnt make you smart....getting all A's doesnt make you smart.... your smart when you have a good mind that can think clearly, understand things that arent taught to you, and can easily learn....you dont even use the stuff you learn at school....

I do.
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[QUOTE="dfnj123"]If you want to be the Tupac, Nas, Jay-Z, Talib Kweli, Common then yes, YOU NEED TO BE SMART.

NO ONE WANTS A 50 CENT or LIL JON
AngelsFan32
Yes because, Tupac went to school, and so did Nas...right.

Yes Tupac did go to school, in fact he was an avid reader interested in poetry and acting. Anyway, since when did having a basic education make someone intelligent? You do realise there are people who are just naturally intelligent and don't require an education to display this intelligence?
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[QUOTE="ChipmunkDeluxe"][QUOTE="AngelsFan32"][QUOTE="dfnj123"]If you want to be the Tupac, Nas, Jay-Z, Talib Kweli, Common then yes, YOU NEED TO BE SMART.

NO ONE WANTS A 50 CENT or LIL JON
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Yes because, Tupac went to school, and so did Nas...right.

going to school doesnt make you smart....getting all A's doesnt make you smart.... your smart when you have a good mind that can think clearly, understand things that arent taught to you, and can easily learn....you dont even use the stuff you learn at school....

I do.

are you saying you use the stuff you learn at school in real life??? because you really dont...i dont care who you are...
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Nope. :lol:
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that is why they call them rappers :roll:
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I'd say you need to be as intelligent as any other field if you want to be successful.  Too be a rapper nowadays you pretty much have to learn to do 3 things, first record a record, second run a lable, and third rap.  Some rappers can get signed off the streets but almost everybody in the business cut their own album before getting picked up.  In all honesty it's not as easy as it sounds to do these 3 things, and you really need to know what you're doing so you don't screw yourself.  I'd say you either need to be a fairly smart person, or have alot of smart people around you.

Now as for what type of smart you have to be is debatable.  There are alot of smart people that don't do well in schools, and it's hard judging a persons intelligence without a close observation of their activities.
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[QUOTE="AngelsFan32"][QUOTE="ChipmunkDeluxe"][QUOTE="AngelsFan32"][QUOTE="dfnj123"]If you want to be the Tupac, Nas, Jay-Z, Talib Kweli, Common then yes, YOU NEED TO BE SMART.

NO ONE WANTS A 50 CENT or LIL JON
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Yes because, Tupac went to school, and so did Nas...right.

going to school doesnt make you smart....getting all A's doesnt make you smart.... your smart when you have a good mind that can think clearly, understand things that arent taught to you, and can easily learn....you dont even use the stuff you learn at school....

I do.

are you saying you use the stuff you learn at school in real life??? because you really dont...i dont care who you are...

The stuff from English I do, and it's good to know the other stuff so you don't seem like an idiot when you get in to a conversation
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eminem is one of the only rappers i listen to and he is very clever with his lyrics however i doubt he finished college
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[QUOTE="ChipmunkDeluxe"][QUOTE="AngelsFan32"][QUOTE="ChipmunkDeluxe"][QUOTE="AngelsFan32"][QUOTE="dfnj123"]If you want to be the Tupac, Nas, Jay-Z, Talib Kweli, Common then yes, YOU NEED TO BE SMART.

NO ONE WANTS A 50 CENT or LIL JON
AngelsFan32
Yes because, Tupac went to school, and so did Nas...right.

going to school doesnt make you smart....getting all A's doesnt make you smart.... your smart when you have a good mind that can think clearly, understand things that arent taught to you, and can easily learn....you dont even use the stuff you learn at school....

I do.

are you saying you use the stuff you learn at school in real life??? because you really dont...i dont care who you are...

The stuff from English I do, and it's good to know the other stuff so you don't seem like an idiot when you get in to a conversation

alright what is that 1 out of 5-8 classes???? And nobody gets into conversations about this stuff.... i know i sound like one of those whiny high school kids that dont feel like doing their math homework...but it really is the truth...you dont use anything you learn from school in real life....even your teachers will admit that... only class where im interested in learning anything is spanish...i can actually use that...
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[QUOTE="AngelsFan32"][QUOTE="ChipmunkDeluxe"][QUOTE="AngelsFan32"][QUOTE="ChipmunkDeluxe"][QUOTE="AngelsFan32"][QUOTE="dfnj123"]If you want to be the Tupac, Nas, Jay-Z, Talib Kweli, Common then yes, YOU NEED TO BE SMART.

NO ONE WANTS A 50 CENT or LIL JON
ChipmunkDeluxe
Yes because, Tupac went to school, and so did Nas...right.

going to school doesnt make you smart....getting all A's doesnt make you smart.... your smart when you have a good mind that can think clearly, understand things that arent taught to you, and can easily learn....you dont even use the stuff you learn at school....

I do.

are you saying you use the stuff you learn at school in real life??? because you really dont...i dont care who you are...

The stuff from English I do, and it's good to know the other stuff so you don't seem like an idiot when you get in to a conversation

alright what is that 1 out of 5-8 classes???? And nobody gets into conversations about this stuff.... i know i sound like one of those whiny high school kids that dont feel like doing their math homework...but it really is the truth...you dont use anything you learn from school in real life....even your teachers will admit that... only class where im interested in learning anything is spanish...i can actually use that...

Some people do. Espically history. Math is stupid, but I want to be a pilot so I kinda need it...science is just gay
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aha, rappers these days are so dumb...
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Do you need to finish high school/college to become a rapper or do you need to know people and know how to rap?BeNOwNz
depends. if you want to be some cotton candy-ass rapper like Unk, D4L, Franchize Boyz, etc, then no, you dont. all you need to do that is street cred. But if you want to be a GOOD rapper, than yes, and youll probably have to focus on the language that you are going to rap in, including the poetry in that language.
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[QUOTE="dfnj123"]If you want to be the Tupac, Nas, Jay-Z, Talib Kweli, Common then yes, YOU NEED TO BE SMART.

NO ONE WANTS A 50 CENT or LIL JON
AngelsFan32
Yes because, Tupac went to school, and so did Nas...right.

Tupac went to a high class arts school:| Fail.

Although Nas did drop out in 8'th grade, he's one of the most intelligent rappers around.

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i think so lyrically smart yes. Some rap is Poetry and the words they come up with to express their feelings is pure genius
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aha, rappers these days are so dumb...illmatikkk
they might be but they are making MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, so maybe we might be the dumb ones buying their cd even though i dont but i use to listen to rap
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You need a high school, college and a university degree.

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#28 dhyce
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Just like any musician/singer/rapper intelligence plays a role in the finished product. If the person isn't very smart, then it will likely be uncreative and uninteresting. You don't need to be smart to be a singer, rapper, or a musician, however, it helps in actually making good music. I don't get why people always single out Rap as this "inferior" genre. When in reality most people who speak bad about it have likely heard less than 1% of the Rap/Hip Hop out there. I see no need to single out Rap, it's just a different genre of music. (Please for the love of god don't quote this and say "rap isn't music blololol" because Rap = rhythm/flow, rhythm = music. Simple math.)
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no, ive never heard of a really smart rapperUrbanSpartan125


Kidz in the Hall

Both of them graduated from UPenn... you know, that horrible Ivy League school.
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You have to finish Street High School, then do at least 4 years in SU to be a rapper.
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No, you just need a good producer and lil Jon
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No, someone else could just write all your material for you...
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You need to be smarter than rap fans
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If you want to be the Tupac, Nas, Jay-Z, Talib Kweli, Common then yes, YOU NEED TO BE SMART.

NO ONE WANTS A 50 CENT or LIL JON
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50 Cent is intelligent, I think. You may not think his music is good, but he's created merchandise, a game, a movie. He has millions of dollars. So he obviously did something right.
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If you're going to rap well, I'd imagine quite a good grasp of the English language / your mother tongue is required to an extent. And that only comes with intelligence.
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[QUOTE="dfnj123"]If you want to be the Tupac, Nas, Jay-Z, Talib Kweli, Common then yes, YOU NEED TO BE SMART.

NO ONE WANTS A 50 CENT or LIL JON
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50 Cent is intelligent, I think. You may not think his music is good, but he's created merchandise, a game, a movie. He has millions of dollars. So he obviously did something right.



50 Cent is a smart businessman.
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a good vocabulary helps...
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[QUOTE="dfnj123"]If you want to be the Tupac, Nas, Jay-Z, Talib Kweli, Common then yes, YOU NEED TO BE SMART.

NO ONE WANTS A 50 CENT or LIL JON
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50 Cent is intelligent, I think. You may not think his music is good, but he's created merchandise, a game, a movie. He has millions of dollars. So he obviously did something right.

well, technically other people created merchanside and a game. he just slapped his name on it. like most celebs do :D
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You just need to pretend you were bought up in the ghetto and have 'hos'
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hahaha hell yea but not with acedemics

check out some of the big names like jay z , nas, AZ, even LL Cool J loolll they conformed to the listening preference of the public

personnalll props go out to my fav rappers though..... BIG L, BIG PUN, TUPAC        RIP

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You just need to pretend you were bought up in the ghetto and have 'hos'liquid_s
also, you need to be part of the crips or the bloods. and also have a pimped out ride. if your on the west coast, it needs to be a 'low-low', south, a bigass chevy either on '84s or 30"s, and dont worry if your on the east coast. if your on the east coast, you MUST attend school. otherwise, they will think your rhymes are "whack" EDIT or "wiggedy wiggedy whack"
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in rap, if you cant think of a word that rhymes, you can just make one up. and for some reason, the rap community accepts this laziness. no, i dont think you need to be smart to be a successful rapper.
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#43 boyblob
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OG Loc made it by stealing Madd Dogs rhymes. That's a good way to get famous without being smart.
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#44 MarioFanatic
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in rap, if you cant think of a word that rhymes, you can just make one up. and for some reason, the rap community accepts this laziness. no, i dont think you need to be smart to be a successful rapper.LoG-Sacrament
oh yes who cant forget colorful vocabulary:

peice, 9, glock, tech, 9 [[tech 9]], gat, strap, steel, heater, heat ALL mean "gun" or "pistol" in the rap world.

dimepeice, quarterpiece *insert-coin-name-here*peice ALL mean a woman (alternatives include, but are not limited to: a *****, hoe, ho, whore, female, fe', redbone, yellowbone, *insert-color-here*bone, etc)

EDIT forgot to mention:

ice, jewelry, jewels, bling, white, shine, diamonds, grill, headlights(reffering to earrings), freezer, freeze, snow, etc ALL mean jewelry.

im from TX, so i know colorful vocabulary when i see it.

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[QUOTE="ChipmunkDeluxe"][QUOTE="AngelsFan32"][QUOTE="ChipmunkDeluxe"][QUOTE="AngelsFan32"][QUOTE="ChipmunkDeluxe"][QUOTE="AngelsFan32"][QUOTE="dfnj123"]If you want to be the Tupac, Nas, Jay-Z, Talib Kweli, Common then yes, YOU NEED TO BE SMART.

NO ONE WANTS A 50 CENT or LIL JON
AngelsFan32
Yes because, Tupac went to school, and so did Nas...right.

going to school doesnt make you smart....getting all A's doesnt make you smart.... your smart when you have a good mind that can think clearly, understand things that arent taught to you, and can easily learn....you dont even use the stuff you learn at school....

I do.

are you saying you use the stuff you learn at school in real life??? because you really dont...i dont care who you are...

The stuff from English I do, and it's good to know the other stuff so you don't seem like an idiot when you get in to a conversation

alright what is that 1 out of 5-8 classes???? And nobody gets into conversations about this stuff.... i know i sound like one of those whiny high school kids that dont feel like doing their math homework...but it really is the truth...you dont use anything you learn from school in real life....even your teachers will admit that... only class where im interested in learning anything is spanish...i can actually use that...

Some people do. Espically history. Math is stupid, but I want to be a pilot so I kinda need it...science is just gay

Let's see.... English is partially important (only the writing parts that is), Math is pointless (past middle school), Science is useless (past middle school), Spanish is pretty important, History is important, did I miss anything?
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school = no
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If you want to be a great rapper like Tupac, NaS, Jay Z, B.I.G. you have to be smart.
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To get popular in rap, then certainly not, to maybe have any hope of making anything even remotely worth listning to, then yes, and a good education in music, at least to be able to call it music, which most rappers can't do.