Best Fighter Plane of the Second World War....

Vote now! on paper its probably the Messerschmitt, it crushed europe,with a ratio of 9:1 kills and almost finished the british. but the zero was the best and the fastestdog fighter.

P-51, no doubt.

I cant remember exactly, but I think over 200,000 were manufactured.

Before US involvement, it was sold to allied powers; while the Spitfire was excellent, it was produced in too small a number initially, and it was the P-51s sold to Britain that helped during the Battle of Britain.

As for me personally, Ive always been a fan of the F4U Corsair...the thing is just...sexy.

its engine was so powerful that is you went full-throttle of the get go, the torque would actually tip it over on its side

Man I wish I had my copy of Il-2

is there a pacific fighters expansion for that?

Out of those, definitely the Mustang.

You can't really pick a best, all effective planes were designed to be the best in a certain role. The P-51D was very well suited for high alltitude long range escort duty in co-ordinated team manuvers but could be easily bested in another senario.

P-51, no doubt.

I cant remember exactly, but I think over 200,000 were manufactured.

Before US involvement, it was sold to allied powers; while the Spitfire was excellent, it was produced in too small a number initially, and it was the P-51s sold to Britain that helped during the Battle of Britain.

mrbojangles25

There were less than 17 000 built and they weren't used until after the BoB.

Il-2 has a Pacific expansion and a bunch of others, you get all of them in the IL-2 1946 deffinative release.

P-51, no doubt.

I cant remember exactly, but I think over 200,000 were manufactured.

Before US involvement, it was sold to allied powers; while the Spitfire was excellent, it was produced in too small a number initially, and it was the P-51s sold to Britain that helped during the Battle of Britain.

As for me personally, Ive always been a fan of the F4U Corsair...the thing is just...sexy.

its engine was so powerful that is you went full-throttle of the get go, the torque would actually tip it over on its side

mrbojangles25

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P-51, no doubt.

I cant remember exactly, but I think over 200,000 were manufactured.

Before US involvement, it was sold to allied powers; while the Spitfire was excellent, it was produced in too small a number initially, and it was the P-51s sold to Britain that helped during the Battle of Britain.

Flanker15

There were less than 17 000 built and they weren't used until after the BoB.

Il-2 has a Pacific expansion and a bunch of others, you get all of them in the IL-2 1946 deffinative release.

only 17000?

i must be getting it confused with the ME 109. I know they made a lot of those

You need to be more specific.

The P-51D was a great long range escort which excelled at high altitudes but was a poor performer down low and had a reputation for being very fragile.

The Spirtfire variants were great interceptors and performed well at all altitudes but were hampered by a very short range.

I personally think that the Tempest Mk V was probably the single best all-round single seat aircraft of WWII. Extremely fast, long range, powerful armaments, able to take a large amount of punishment, great roll rate and a decent turn radius, great flight envelope, almost uncatchable in a dive, and a good ground attack aircraft.

The Bf 109's record during WW2 speaks for itself. More kills than any other aircraft. This thread stinks of american patriotism :lol:

Spitfire all the way, and I want a soruce for your 9:1 KDR. Not wiki, an academic source.Dr_Brocoli

Spitfire all the way, and I want a soruce for your 9:1 KDR. Not wiki, an academic source.Dr_Brocoli

9:1 is nothing. The Finns flew the 109 with a ratio of 27:1, and you can do a simple internet search to prove that.

If the Luftwaffe commanders had allowed it to fly freely away from the bombers,using its speed coming out above the clouds, like it did in the rest of Europe, it probably would have defeated the raf.

I'm partial to the Yak 9 myself.

Does this count as a fighter plane?

The Bf 109's record during WW2 speaks for itself. More kills than any other aircraft. This thread stinks of american patriotism :lol:

F1_2004

yes but it didnt help them win the war

I know many things contributed to the Allied victory, but imo you cannot nominate a plane used by the losers as the best plane in WWII

Add in the P-38 Lighting aka "The Forked Tailed Devil". If I was a WWII pilot, that will be the fighter that i would take to the air.

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The Bf 109's record during WW2 speaks for itself. More kills than any other aircraft. This thread stinks of american patriotism :lol:

mrbojangles25

yes but it didnt help them win the war

I know many things contributed to the Allied victory, but imo you cannot nominate a plane used by the losers as the best plane in WWII

Even if it was a better plane in its own right?

Anyway, I'm going to have to go with the Submarine Spitfire.

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The Bf 109's record during WW2 speaks for itself. More kills than any other aircraft. This thread stinks of american patriotism :lol:

coolbeans90

yes but it didnt help them win the war

I know many things contributed to the Allied victory, but imo you cannot nominate a plane used by the losers as the best plane in WWII

Even if it was a better plane in its own right?

thats just my way of doing it. of the Second World War

we could easily argue that it depends on the skill of the pilots too.

But no. You dont give first prize to the losers...best sportsmanship, most improved, stuff like that...but not first prize.

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yes but it didnt help them win the war

I know many things contributed to the Allied victory, but imo you cannot nominate a plane used by the losers as the best plane in WWII

mrbojangles25

Even if it was a better plane in its own right?

thats just my way of doing it. of the Second World War

we could easily argue that it depends on the skill of the pilots too.

But no. You dont give first prize to the losers...best sportsmanship, most improved, stuff like that...but not first prize.

Well, MVP...

Point being, it's not about what country was flying the plane. This is a question based purely on what's a better plane.

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Even if it was a better plane in its own right?

coolbeans90

thats just my way of doing it. of the Second World War

we could easily argue that it depends on the skill of the pilots too.

But no. You dont give first prize to the losers...best sportsmanship, most improved, stuff like that...but not first prize.

Well, MVP...

Point being, it's not about what country was flying the plane. This is a question based purely on what's a better plane.

ok you win :P

ME 262

F4U Corsair, by far. Second for me is the P-38 Lightning.

P-38. Fast as hell, and just... look at it...

The P-51 and the Messerschmitt were great.

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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

thats just my way of doing it. of the Second World War

we could easily argue that it depends on the skill of the pilots too.

But no. You dont give first prize to the losers...best sportsmanship, most improved, stuff like that...but not first prize.

mrbojangles25

Well, MVP...

Point being, it's not about what country was flying the plane. This is a question based purely on what's a better plane.

ok you win :P

You should thank Her Hitler for giving you F 16-s Raptors and rest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnbQ_2bIJ4c

best plane of WWII - nuff said

The P-38 has always been a favorite of mine.

As for me personally, Ive always been a fan of the F4U Corsair...the thing is just...sexy.

its engine was so powerful that is you went full-throttle of the get go, the torque would actually tip it over on its side

mrbojangles25

That would be my choice as well although I really like those quick darting Messerschmitts as well. Hellcats were great as well until the Corsair came stomping around.

North American P-51 Mustang D model

though my favorite is the 109, they mustang is the king

Does it really matter now that all of those are obsolete?

Does it really matter now that all of those are obsolete?

Shad0ki11

wow :| no mention of the dive bomber stuka,this thread sucks

Nothing really amazing about it if you know the history of the air wars in WWII and the doctrine of the various countries. Hartmann scored most of his kills against inexperienced, ill-trained Soviet pilots who were flying outdated aircraft and utilizing WWI era tactical formations with zero command-control. Further, pilots in the Luftwaffe were pretty much expected to keep flying until they died. The western Allies, by contrast, recognized that when one of their pilots had become a multiple ace, they would be better utilized in training new pilots to fly effectively in combat than they would be flying until they burnt out and were killed. That's one of the main reasons for the success of the Allies as the war progressed. The Axis forces lost their skilled pilots through attrition and weren't able to train replacements up to snuff. The Allies operated a joint training program in Canada with experienced veterans acting as instructors. One look at the combat results from air engagements like the Mariannas Turkey Shoot in the Pacific or Bodenplatte in Europe will show the effect such training had.bogaty

Two reasons why Hitler lost WWII

1.Production

2.USSR

When it comes down to sheer feeling and status, the Spitfire. That thing was goddamn legend. Although that could be attributed more to the general high quality of British pilots.

For technical specifications, the Tempest - the goddamn German jets were scared of that beast.

Zero kamikaze fighter :D

wow :| no mention of the dive bomber stuka,this thread sucksVaguelyTagged

well im going with either the p40 or the p38..both are sexy looking planes...and they fly very well in il2...

P-51