Atheists forcing their views

Hello OT,

Recently, I read an entry in the paper where some teenager was complaining that non-religious people at her school were being disrespectful of her christian views, and it made me want to ask this question:

Do you feel like atheists/agnostics are being too vocal, insensitive or disrespectful, are trying to force their opinions of everybody, or are trying to influence the state too much?

I appreciate any answers, and have a good day!

In this country, people are not allowed to marry because their orientation is against Christian beliefs... I think the Christians are just as vocal... and they are taking rights away....

We are no more vocal than any christian.

Hello OT,

Recently, I read an entry in the paper where some teenager was complaining that non-religious people at her school were being disrespectful of her christian views, and it made me want to ask this question:

Do you feel like atheists/agnostics are being too vocal, insensitive or disrespectful, are trying to force their opinions of everybody, or are trying to influence the state too much?

I appreciate any answers, and have a good day!

I think if you take ANY group, you're going to find some a-holes in there who are disrespectful of others and are just all around loudmouths. I know some athiests who obviously don't share my religous views, but we have nice and interesting discussions and debates. Then there are a few athiests I know that, as soon as the topic of religion comes up, immediately start to hurl insults at me. So, there's good and bad in all I think.

In this country, people are not allowed to marry because their orientation is against Christian beliefs... I think the Christians are just as vocal... and they are taking rights away....

heysharpshooter

i've yet to see an atheist stood on a street corner clutching a copy of the god delusion and screaming there is no god.

where as EVERY weekend some **** stands on our high street clutching his bible, screaming at the sinners walking by 'if you don't give your self to jesus you will burn in hell for eternity'.

I think if you take ANY group, you're going to find some a-holes in there who are disrespectful of others and are just all around loudmouths.

YellowOneKinobi

Yeah, basically. I think there are more loudmouth atheists on this forum than in the general public, at least where I live.

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

In this country, people are not allowed to marry because their orientation is against Christian beliefs... I think the Christians are just as vocal... and they are taking rights away....

Pirate700

But they don't take rights from tax paying americans because of their (non)beliefs... yet in the US, Christianity is becoming increasinly legislated...

i've yet to see an atheist stood on a street corner clutching a copy of the god delusion and screaming there is no god.

where as EVERY weekend some **** stands on our high street clutching his bible, screaming at the sinners walking by 'if you don't give your self to jesus you will burn in hell for eternity'.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

In this country, people are not allowed to marry because their orientation is against Christian beliefs... I think the Christians are just as vocal... and they are taking rights away....

heysharpshooter

But they don't take rights from tax paying americans because of their (non)beliefs... yet in the US, Christianity is becoming increasinly legislated...

i've yet to see an atheist stood on a street corner clutching a copy of the god delusion and screaming there is no god.

where as EVERY weekend some **** stands on our high street clutching his bible, screaming at the sinners walking by 'if you don't give your self to jesus you will burn in hell for eternity'.

But they don't take rights from tax paying americans because of their (non)beliefs... yet in the US, Christianity is becoming increasinly legislated...

heysharpshooter

Obviously they don't view what they're taking away from gays as being a right. I assume that's what you're referencing. For all the intellectual openness that some atheists are proporting to espouse (not saying you are), they show a remarkable inability to consider any problem from any viewpoint that is not identical to their own.

And how is Christianity becoming increasingly legislated? Obviously gays weren't getting married 50 years ago, so there must be something else you're thinking of here.

EDIT: Fixing my spaces. F*** your post editor, GameSpot.

i've yet to see an atheist stood on a street corner clutching a copy of the god delusion and screaming there is no god.

where as EVERY weekend some **** stands on our high street clutching his bible, screaming at the sinners walking by 'if you don't give your self to jesus you will burn in hell for eternity'.

[QUOTE="Harkat95"][QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"] Here in NY I've seen some pretty offensive billboards put up by athiest groups.YellowOneKinobi

Yeah, basically. I think there are more loudmouth atheists on this forum than in the general public, at least where I live.Palantas

[QUOTE="Harkat95"][QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"] Here in NY I've seen some pretty offensive billboards put up by athiest groups.YellowOneKinobi

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

But they don't take rights from tax paying americans because of their (non)beliefs... yet in the US, Christianity is becoming increasinly legislated...

Palantas

Obviously they don't view what they're taking away from gays as being a right. I assume that's what you'rere ferencing. For all the intellectual openness that some atheists are proporting to espouse (not saying you are), they show a remarkable inability to consider any problem from any viewpoint that is not identical to their own.

And how is Christianity becoming increasingly legislated? Obviously gays weren't getting married 50 years ago, so there must be something else you're thinking of here.

EDIT: Fixing my spaces. F*** your post editor, GameSpot.

In some states, creationism is being legislated into science ****s...

Abortion and divorce laws are being altered to specific, religious guidelines...

Several states have tried to ban specific sexual acts because they are seen as vile in the Bible(and at certain points, they have succeeded)...

[QUOTE="Harkat95"][QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"] Here in NY I've seen some pretty offensive billboards put up by athiest groups.YellowOneKinobi

[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"][QUOTE="Harkat95"] Such as...?Brainkiller05

[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"] Here was last years. http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/29/for-the-holidays-an-atheism-billboard/ YellowOneKinobi

Maybe I'm biased but It SEEMS that religious people are more in your face, that link you just gave was the most extreme billboard atheism I've ever seen, the advertisements are usually more... well purposely trying not to offend, some ads in london said "God probably doesn't exist, so stop worrying and live your life".

Which is quite tame compared to the crazy people you see screaming down megaphones claiming everyone is going to burn alive if they don't believe him.

But again, I'm an atheist and am probably a little biased. And yeah you're right, there are crazy people in both camps (atheism and theism)

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

In this country, people are not allowed to marry because their orientation is against Christian beliefs... I think the Christians are just as vocal... and they are taking rights away....

Pirate700

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[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

In this country, people are not allowed to marry because their orientation is against Christian beliefs... I think the Christians are just as vocal... and they are taking rights away....

SaintLeonidas

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Some Christians may be as vocal but hardcore atheists are some of the most angry and aggressively abrasive people I've ever come across. And no I'm not religious.

Pirate700

You're talking about a small fringe group and yes, there are atheists out there (in a much larger number) who are more aggressive and annoying.

Pirate700

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[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"] I don't think anyone is more angry and aggressive as the West Baptist Church. No matter how vocal anyone may think some atheists may be, not even the most extreme or obnoxious of those atheists will be as bad or aggressive as the extremes in religions such as Christianity and Islam. SaintLeonidas

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]You're talking about a small fringe group and yes, there are atheists out there (in a much larger number) who are more aggressive and annoying.

Pirate700

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]You're talking about a small fringe group and yes, there are atheists out there (in a much larger number) who are more aggressive and annoying.

Pirate700

In some states, creationism is being legislated into science ****s...

Abortion and divorce laws are being altered to specific, religious guidelines...

Several states have tried to ban specific sexual acts because they are seen as vile in the Bible(and at certain points, they have succeeded)...

heysharpshooter

What kinda timeframe are you talking about when you say Christianity is becoming increasingly legislated? Since when? All this stuff you're mentioning used to be simply the way things were.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"] There are more atheists out there picketing funerals, and calling for people to be killed, or actually killing people ie. suicide bombers than those from religious groups doing such things?...what news papers have you been reading?SaintLeonidas

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Care to point out where I said there are more atheists doing just that?

Pirate700

First, SaintLeonidas says:

[No matter how vocal anyone may think some atheists may be, not even the most extreme or obnoxious of those atheists will be as bad or aggressive as the extremes in religions such as Christianity and Islam. SaintLeonidas

You're talking about a small fringe group and yes, there are atheists out there (in a much larger number) who are more aggressive and annoying.

Pirate700

From what I've seen, on and offline, Atheists are getting worst. Very, very disrespectful when talking about other religions. Yes, Christians have been vocal for some time now with their words, other religions too, but Atheists are now going to the 10th degree trying to belittle everyone in their path. At least with some religions, they at least listen and not poke fun when stating their case (excluding that one annoying church thats always in the news). Fuhgeddabouditt

You're talking about a small fringe group and yes, there are atheists out there (in a much larger number) who are more aggressive and annoying.

Pirate700

Do you have any evidence to back up this claim?

EDIT: I find it mystifying that yourself and others in this thread are actually arguing which group is worse.

[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]From what I've seen, on and offline, Atheists are getting worst. Very, very disrespectful when talking about other religions. Yes, Christians have been vocal for some time now with their words, other religions too, but Atheists are now going to the 10th degree trying to belittle everyone in their path. At least with some religions, they at least listen and not poke fun when stating their case (excluding that one annoying church thats always in the news). dog_dirt

Loudmouths exist regardless of religion...spazzx625

Alot of the athiests on this board are as obnoxious as the religious radicals they ridicule. I don't see either group as being that different from one another, actually.

If you don't like atheists exercising free speech, too bad. I don't care if people are offended. I'm offended by the 5 or 6 Jesus billboards I have to pass by every weekend while driving but will I ask them to stop putting them up? No, because it's their right to doso.

For every atheist trying to force his or her views, there is someone of a different religion doing the same thing. There isn't one group who does it more than the other.CongressManStan