Abortion: with or against?

Your poll makes it seem so black and white and I couldn't vote. I am against it, but in certain situations I am for it. Like rape or if the mother will die from it. But at the same time, I don't think mine or anybody else's views should be forc on others. So even though I am against it, I believe everybody should have the right to do so if they wish.AmazonTreeBoa

[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] An embryo/fetus could be classified as a parasite, but I think it would be more accurate to say that it behaves in a parasitic fashion. As you seem to be implying, just saying, "it's a parasite" is too simplistic. To say that it's parasitic however, is undeniable.Frame_Dragger

It would be a factitious argument, I'm speaking in terms of parasitic behavior in organisms. My point was in support of LJS9502_basic's position that to characterize one stage of a complex organism as a "parasite", rather than a period of parasitic behavior is misleading. Then again, it turns out I misunderstood him, yet I stand by my point. Again, I'm not stating what my position is here, now or EVER, but I'll chime in on the facts that are not a matter of debate and opinion. If you're sharing a blood supply without gaining anything in return you have parasitic behavior.

Besides, I suspect that your parents are in a behaviorally symbiotic relationship anyway; if they fall ill later in life, are you going to leave them in a ditch? The parent-child dynamic is also complex, and not so simplistic. Anyway, from a medical point of view the embryo and fetus are parasitic; that isn't a basis in my opinion for an argument to support or condemn abortion, just an objective reality.

That's nothing more than reverting to shematics you know what I meant by that.

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I could argue that in my current state I'm parasitic to my parents, because I don't know how to drive thus support myself.alexside1

It would be a factitious argument, I'm speaking in terms of parasitic behavior in organisms. My point was in support of LJS9502_basic's position that to characterize one stage of a complex organism as a "parasite", rather than a period of parasitic behavior is misleading. Then again, it turns out I misunderstood him, yet I stand by my point. Again, I'm not stating what my position is here, now or EVER, but I'll chime in on the facts that are not a matter of debate and opinion. If you're sharing a blood supply without gaining anything in return you have parasitic behavior.

Besides, I suspect that your parents are in a behaviorally symbiotic relationship anyway; if they fall ill later in life, are you going to leave them in a ditch? The parent-child dynamic is also complex, and not so simplistic. Anyway, from a medical point of view the embryo and fetus are parasitic; that isn't a basis in my opinion for an argument to support or condemn abortion, just an objective reality.

That's nothing more than reverting to shematics you know what I meant by that.

if abortion is murder, then swallowing is cannibalism and masturbation is genocide attempt.

fin.

biohaznerd

this just changed my world

Against it unless under certain circumstances.

aggainnnsssttt.

"against abortion. for killing babies, that way everyone loses and I win."-maddox

i'm for. however, it should only be early. late-term abortion is unecusable.

However, i'm al for abortion if its early. A woman has a right to choose. She might also be unprepared for a child, and so the child would probably grow up in a foster's home and have a sad childhood, which would affect his whole life. Best to not have a sad person come to this world and sav everybody a lot of pain.

Also, the fetus can be used for stem cell reaserch, to save other lives

Its up to the person who actually has to raise the kid. It's easy to call names, when u don't have any responsobility with the problem at hand. if u hate abortion so much, why not adopt the kids getting aborted??? Ohh u dont' wanna do that. Just complain.

I am for the woman's right to choose a legal abortion. But I don't think they should abort babies after, say, 16 weeks or so.

If I had to vote though I would always support legal abortion. The horror and suffering of women who face illegal abortions appall me. That being said I have very little time or patience for women who become 'accidentally' pregnant while not using any form of contraception whatsoever. In this day and age there are so many contraception options available that women not using any and then b******* about being 'suddenly' pregnant piss me the hell off.

I am for the woman's right to choose a legal abortion. But I don't think they should abort babies after, say, 16 weeks or so.

If I had to vote though I would always support legal abortion. The horror and suffering of women who face illegal abortions appall me. That being said I have very little time or patience for women who become 'accidentally' pregnant while not using any form of contraception whatsoever. In this day and age there are so many contraception options available that women not using any and then b******* about being 'suddenly' pregnant piss me the hell off.

MissLibrarian

13 weeks is generally the cut off point for abortions.

Hell I don't support it, but I support it being the choice of the parents (Not only the mothers). Iantheone

I am for the woman's right to choose a legal abortion. But I don't think they should abort babies after, say, 16 weeks or so.

MissLibrarian

Why 16 weeks? Why any particular number of weeks?

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I am for the woman's right to choose a legal abortion. But I don't think they should abort babies after, say, 16 weeks or so.

Why 16 weeks? Why any particular number of weeks?

13 weeks is generally the cut off point for abortions.garathe_den

I believe you can have an abortion anywhere up to 24 weeks here in the UK.

Why 16 weeks? Why any particular number of weeks?Palantas

16 weeks was just a number I typed.

Generally because as far as I'm aware if a woman were to suffer an 'early birth' of a foetus that was less than around 16 weeks old it simply could not live. Thus I do not see it as 'living'. Whereas premature babies at around say 24 weeks have a slim but often severely disadvantaged chance.

However this is all personal speculation and my own personal opinion, I have no real knowledge on the subject, but luckily no-one will ever ask me to decide what is right or wrong regarding this subject in order to make a law or whatever so I probably don't need to know either.