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#1 ocdog45
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Anybody else agree steve nash should of get this award? My thing is they should either wait until after the playoff or do it right before the playoffs start.

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How about they make a Playoffs MVP so that everyone can shut up about Dirk not deserving it. Dirk definitely deserved the MVP this season. MVP is for the regular season, not playoffs. What you do in the playoffs shouldn't & doesn't influence the MVP decision.
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#3 nivet14
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STEVE NASH MVP
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#4 navigata
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How about they make a Playoffs MVP so that everyone can shut up about Dirk not deserving it. Dirk definitely deserved the MVP this season. MVP is for the regular season, not playoffs. What you do in the playoffs shouldn't & doesn't influence the MVP decision.KoFoNiO
Yea, dallas fans always stick together. The SEASON MVP is based strictly on the SEASON, Not POST SEASON. He was the best player on the best team, he deserves it..He worked hard for it, though many could say he choked in post SEASON..hes still one of the greatest players in the NBA today, and for that reason he deserves it...
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#6 StarFoxCOM
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Just don't say anything else the NBA finals MVP is basicly the Playoff MVP cause obviously for your team to be in the finals you must good in the other games to get your team to win. And overall Dirk had the best stats cause he was the most well rouneded in the regular season
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#7 MFCocca
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Dirk deserves to be MVP but IMHO ash deserves it more, Nash is the glue of that team, if he's gone the team falls apart. (Wow cliche much?)
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#8 silky_smooth8
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no surprise here, mvp usually goes out to the best player on the best team
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#9 StarFoxCOM
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no surprise here, mvp usually goes out to the best player on the best teamsilky_smooth8
exactly thats why Ryan Alfonso Sorenio didn't get MLB MVP last year
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#10 NetYankEagle
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Anybody else agree steve nash should of get this award? My thing is they should either wait until after the playoff or do it right before the playoffs start.

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Um Jason Kidd was better then Nash this year Kidd is just never noticed due to half th eworld sucking Nash's ***k. Dirk diserved the MVP he led his team to the #1 seed in western conference also had 67 wins. MVP material. Nash coul dleavbe the suns and the Suns would still have 2 other all stars on there team and a 6 man who avg 20 ppg:| everybody stop crying nash didnt diserve it this year or last year.
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[QUOTE="silky_smooth8"]no surprise here, mvp usually goes out to the best player on the best teamStarFoxCOM
exactly thats why Ryan Alfonso Sorenio didn't get MLB MVP last year

Both players didnt even make it to the playoff why even complain bout that
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STEVE NASH MVP nivet14
please explain why Nash is MVP he avg 18 ppg 11 ast. Dirk avg 25 ppg and 9 Boards and 41% from 3. Dirks team won more and had #1 seed. W/o Dirk Mavs would be nothing W/o Nash Suns still have Amare And Marion and Barbosa who can be a 5 ast per ame type of guy and is a scorer Suns can make playoffs w/o Nash Mavs backup PF would lead them to a 35 win season if lucky. Terry is a carrying type of guy and Howard isnt much of a go 2 guy yet
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Bah. I nominate Ben Gordan as MVP. Hes the most under rated player in NBA.

*Wait's to get flamed*

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Bah. I nominate Ben Gordan as MVP. Hes the most under rated player in NBA.

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he doesnt diserve an MVP vote yet he is one of th emany valuable players on the team
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[QUOTE="nivet14"]STEVE NASH MVP NetYankEagle
please explain why Nash is MVP he avg 18 ppg 11 ast. Dirk avg 25 ppg and 9 Boards and 41% from 3. Dirks team won more and had #1 seed. W/o Dirk Mavs would be nothing W/o Nash Suns still have Amare And Marion and Barbosa who can be a 5 ast per ame type of guy and is a scorer Suns can make playoffs w/o Nash Mavs backup PF would lead them to a 35 win season if lucky. Terry is a carrying type of guy and Howard isnt much of a go 2 guy yet

How about these numbers for Nash:

Scores 10pts in 50 seconds to send a game against the Mavs to overtime.

Makes two incredible behind-the-back passes to Amare and by avoiding an early foul attempt has Horry deck him and makes the free throws he has to to win game 3 the other night.

Oh and Nash put up 5.6 more points, 2.4 more assists and had a higher FG% by .128 than Kidd. Plus his team had more wins, so Dirk is MVP over Nash for all those reasons but Kidd deserves it over nash even though he has much lower numbers?

 

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I think Steve Nash should of won but if you cut out the first round Dirk desverd it.

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[QUOTE="nivet14"]STEVE NASH MVP NetYankEagle
please explain why Nash is MVP he avg 18 ppg 11 ast. Dirk avg 25 ppg and 9 Boards and 41% from 3. Dirks team won more and had #1 seed. W/o Dirk Mavs would be nothing W/o Nash Suns still have Amare And Marion and Barbosa who can be a 5 ast per ame type of guy and is a scorer Suns can make playoffs w/o Nash Mavs backup PF would lead them to a 35 win season if lucky. Terry is a carrying type of guy and Howard isnt much of a go 2 guy yet

 ok, how about when the suns had amare and marion a couple years back w/out nash? they were garbage. Nash came in and the suns had the biggest turnaround in nba history. And this year, when nash was injured, the suns looked like what they were w/out nash a couple years ago and couldn't win at all. The fact that the suns are a 60 win team with nash and a lottery team without him clearly shows that he is deserving of the most valuable player award. And how in any way does kidd derserve this more htan nash? well, other than the fact that you clearly are a nets fanboy

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We'll see how good Nash is tonight being down 2 key players tonight.
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#20 piper77
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Yeah the Mavs choked, but some people are hypocrates. They make a big deal about Dirk getting the MVP, because Dallas got knocked out of the playoffs, but I guarantee you that they would have no qualms if somebody like Kobe would have gotten it even though the Lakers got knocked out early as well.
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[QUOTE="NetYankEagle"][QUOTE="nivet14"]STEVE NASH MVP silky_smooth8

please explain why Nash is MVP he avg 18 ppg 11 ast. Dirk avg 25 ppg and 9 Boards and 41% from 3. Dirks team won more and had #1 seed. W/o Dirk Mavs would be nothing W/o Nash Suns still have Amare And Marion and Barbosa who can be a 5 ast per ame type of guy and is a scorer Suns can make playoffs w/o Nash Mavs backup PF would lead them to a 35 win season if lucky. Terry is a carrying type of guy and Howard isnt much of a go 2 guy yet

ok, how about when the suns had amare and marion a couple years back w/out nash? they were garbage. Nash came in and the suns had the biggest turnaround in nba history. And this year, when nash was injured, the suns looked like what they were w/out nash a couple years ago and couldn't win at all. The fact that the suns are a 60 win team with nash and a lottery team without him clearly shows that he is deserving of the most valuable player award. And how in any way does kidd derserve this more htan nash? well, other than the fact that you clearly are a net fanboy

Biggest Turn around in NBA history huh. So the 26 wins the Nets had before Kidd came and the 56 wins and a trip to the NBA Finals when he joined wasnt a big turnaround? Nash hasnt smelled the finals yet, also  Amare sucked before Nash came? So winning Rookie of the year is considered sucking now adays, and then followe dup avg 20 and 9. Also Marion sucking? Have you watched basketball at all. He may no thave gotten noticed but he never sucked. Nash came into the Suns with 2 rebounders and scorers on his side. Kidd came to the nets and went to the finla swith possblty one of the worst Sarting Centers in this era of the NBA. I maybe a Nets fan yes but i actually know what im talking about. Kidd this year has a PF and Center by the names of Mikki Moore and Jason Collins..who? Now Mikki Moore being a scrub in the nba first year as a Net he wins the shooting % title, after saying all this i will still contiure to see that 30 win turnaround crap that Nash has doen for the Suns yet he hasnt gone to the Ship
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[QUOTE="NetYankEagle"][QUOTE="nivet14"]STEVE NASH MVP pundog

please explain why Nash is MVP he avg 18 ppg 11 ast. Dirk avg 25 ppg and 9 Boards and 41% from 3. Dirks team won more and had #1 seed. W/o Dirk Mavs would be nothing W/o Nash Suns still have Amare And Marion and Barbosa who can be a 5 ast per ame type of guy and is a scorer Suns can make playoffs w/o Nash Mavs backup PF would lead them to a 35 win season if lucky. Terry is a carrying type of guy and Howard isnt much of a go 2 guy yet

How about these numbers for Nash:

Scores 10pts in 50 seconds to send a game against the Mavs to overtime.

Makes two incredible behind-the-back passes to Amare and by avoiding an early foul attempt has Horry deck him and makes the free throws he has to to win game 3 the other night.

Oh and Nash put up 5.6 more points, 2.4 more assists and had a higher FG% by .128 than Kidd. Plus his team had more wins, so Dirk is MVP over Nash for all those reasons but Kidd deserves it over nash even though he has much lower numbers?

 

T-Mac scores 13 in 36 seconds against the Spurs your point? Nash Avged 5 more points 2 more ast better field goal % sure impressive. Who does Nash have on his team? Word really Amare Stoudemire Shawn Marion and Barbosa who came off the bench avg 20 ppg. Kidd has The All Star Caliber Jason Collins and Mikki Moore and Nachbar off the bench YEA!! What happened when Nachbar Joined th eNets with J Kidd? Oh yea one of the best 3 point shooters now. Who the hell is Mikki Moore? The guy who lead the NBA with a 62% field goal percentage? after only starting  5 games in his 9th season in the NBA. Jason Collins well he still the crappy Center who plays very goo ddefense in the playoffs, but hey Nash is teh amazing.
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[QUOTE="nivet14"]STEVE NASH MVP NetYankEagle
please explain why Nash is MVP he avg 18 ppg 11 ast. Dirk avg 25 ppg and 9 Boards and 41% from 3. Dirks team won more and had #1 seed. W/o Dirk Mavs would be nothing W/o Nash Suns still have Amare And Marion and Barbosa who can be a 5 ast per ame type of guy and is a scorer Suns can make playoffs w/o Nash Mavs backup PF would lead them to a 35 win season if lucky. Terry is a carrying type of guy and Howard isnt much of a go 2 guy yet

 Dirk is out of the playoffs...

Nash is in and doing fine 

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[QUOTE="NetYankEagle"][QUOTE="nivet14"]STEVE NASH MVP cloudstrife75

please explain why Nash is MVP he avg 18 ppg 11 ast. Dirk avg 25 ppg and 9 Boards and 41% from 3. Dirks team won more and had #1 seed. W/o Dirk Mavs would be nothing W/o Nash Suns still have Amare And Marion and Barbosa who can be a 5 ast per ame type of guy and is a scorer Suns can make playoffs w/o Nash Mavs backup PF would lead them to a 35 win season if lucky. Terry is a carrying type of guy and Howard isnt much of a go 2 guy yet

Dirk is out of the playoffs...

Nash is in and doing fine

wow:| great argument you win
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I will still say STEVE NASH MVP.
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#26 KoFoNiO
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I will still say STEVE NASH MVP.nivet14

Too bad theres nothing you can do about it.

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I will still say STEVE NASH MVP.nivet14
Even though you know my argument was correc tand you reall yhave nothing to say but that. your beloved Nash wont get that trophy again in his career
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[QUOTE="nivet14"]I will still say STEVE NASH MVP.NetYankEagle
Even though you know my argument was correc tand you reall yhave nothing to say but that. your beloved Nash wont get that trophy again in his career

We will see about that.
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[QUOTE="NetYankEagle"][QUOTE="nivet14"]I will still say STEVE NASH MVP.nivet14
Even though you know my argument was correc tand you reall yhave nothing to say but that. your beloved Nash wont get that trophy again in his career

We will see about that.

hes 33 now when better hope he does it in the 3 year he could possibly have left
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[QUOTE="NetYankEagle"][QUOTE="nivet14"]STEVE NASH MVP NetYankEagle

please explain why Nash is MVP he avg 18 ppg 11 ast. Dirk avg 25 ppg and 9 Boards and 41% from 3. Dirks team won more and had #1 seed. W/o Dirk Mavs would be nothing W/o Nash Suns still have Amare And Marion and Barbosa who can be a 5 ast per ame type of guy and is a scorer Suns can make playoffs w/o Nash Mavs backup PF would lead them to a 35 win season if lucky. Terry is a carrying type of guy and Howard isnt much of a go 2 guy yet

ok, how about when the suns had amare and marion a couple years back w/out nash? they were garbage. Nash came in and the suns had the biggest turnaround in nba history. And this year, when nash was injured, the suns looked like what they were w/out nash a couple years ago and couldn't win at all. The fact that the suns are a 60 win team with nash and a lottery team without him clearly shows that he is deserving of the most valuable player award. And how in any way does kidd derserve this more htan nash? well, other than the fact that you clearly are a net fanboy

Biggest Turn around in NBA history huh. So the 26 wins the Nets had before Kidd came and the 56 wins and a trip to the NBA Finals when he joined wasnt a big turnaround? Nash hasnt smelled the finals yet, also Amare sucked before Nash came? So winning Rookie of the year is considered sucking now adays, and then followe dup avg 20 and 9. Also Marion sucking? Have you watched basketball at all. He may no thave gotten noticed but he never sucked. Nash came into the Suns with 2 rebounders and scorers on his side. Kidd came to the nets and went to the finla swith possblty one of the worst Sarting Centers in this era of the NBA. I maybe a Nets fan yes but i actually know what im talking about. Kidd this year has a PF and Center by the names of Mikki Moore and Jason Collins..who? Now Mikki Moore being a scrub in the nba first year as a Net he wins the shooting % title, after saying all this i will still contiure to see that 30 win turnaround crap that Nash has doen for the Suns yet he hasnt gone to the Ship

i didn't say amare and marion were garbage before nash, i meant the suns were garbage without nash even when they had amare and marion. And yea, kidd was robbed of the mvp title back in 01/02, but that was a 5 years ago and look at the nets now, barely making .500 in probably the worst conference in all of pro sports. And while its all great that mikki moore makes 60% of his fgs for a whopping 10 ppg, nash has made everyone around him have career years. And yea, nash hasn't made it to the finals, only cause he's in the much tougher western conference where he's had to face the spurs and mavs in the conference finals for the two years he was with the suns. Put the suns in the east and they're a lock for the finals every year. Put the nets from 01/02 in the west today and they would never had made it to the finals

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[QUOTE="pundog"]

[QUOTE="NetYankEagle"][QUOTE="nivet14"]STEVE NASH MVP NetYankEagle

please explain why Nash is MVP he avg 18 ppg 11 ast. Dirk avg 25 ppg and 9 Boards and 41% from 3. Dirks team won more and had #1 seed. W/o Dirk Mavs would be nothing W/o Nash Suns still have Amare And Marion and Barbosa who can be a 5 ast per ame type of guy and is a scorer Suns can make playoffs w/o Nash Mavs backup PF would lead them to a 35 win season if lucky. Terry is a carrying type of guy and Howard isnt much of a go 2 guy yet

How about these numbers for Nash:

Scores 10pts in 50 seconds to send a game against the Mavs to overtime.

Makes two incredible behind-the-back passes to Amare and by avoiding an early foul attempt has Horry deck him and makes the free throws he has to to win game 3 the other night.

Oh and Nash put up 5.6 more points, 2.4 more assists and had a higher FG% by .128 than Kidd. Plus his team had more wins, so Dirk is MVP over Nash for all those reasons but Kidd deserves it over nash even though he has much lower numbers?

 

T-Mac scores 13 in 36 seconds against the Spurs your point? Nash Avged 5 more points 2 more ast better field goal % sure impressive. Who does Nash have on his team? Word really Amare Stoudemire Shawn Marion and Barbosa who came off the bench avg 20 ppg. Kidd has The All Star Caliber Jason Collins and Mikki Moore and Nachbar off the bench YEA!! What happened when Nachbar Joined th eNets with J Kidd? Oh yea one of the best 3 point shooters now. Who the hell is Mikki Moore? The guy who lead the NBA with a 62% field goal percentage? after only starting  5 games in his 9th season in the NBA. Jason Collins well he still the crappy Center who plays very goo ddefense in the playoffs, but hey Nash is teh amazing.

Jason Kidd also has Richard Jefferson and Vince friggin Carter on his team, who I believe both average over 20 a game. Plus with the way you nets fans talk about Kristic he sounds like he should be able to light the lamp. And did you just try and argue how good Moore, Collins and Nachbar are? Because thats what it sounds like. The suns are a good team but its not like Kidd is playing with the Hawks or anything. The Nets have a team that should be competing for 1st place in the east, not barely making the playoffs.
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#33 NetYankEagle
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[QUOTE="NetYankEagle"][QUOTE="pundog"]

[QUOTE="NetYankEagle"][QUOTE="nivet14"]STEVE NASH MVP pundog

please explain why Nash is MVP he avg 18 ppg 11 ast. Dirk avg 25 ppg and 9 Boards and 41% from 3. Dirks team won more and had #1 seed. W/o Dirk Mavs would be nothing W/o Nash Suns still have Amare And Marion and Barbosa who can be a 5 ast per ame type of guy and is a scorer Suns can make playoffs w/o Nash Mavs backup PF would lead them to a 35 win season if lucky. Terry is a carrying type of guy and Howard isnt much of a go 2 guy yet

How about these numbers for Nash:

Scores 10pts in 50 seconds to send a game against the Mavs to overtime.

Makes two incredible behind-the-back passes to Amare and by avoiding an early foul attempt has Horry deck him and makes the free throws he has to to win game 3 the other night.

Oh and Nash put up 5.6 more points, 2.4 more assists and had a higher FG% by .128 than Kidd. Plus his team had more wins, so Dirk is MVP over Nash for all those reasons but Kidd deserves it over nash even though he has much lower numbers?

 

T-Mac scores 13 in 36 seconds against the Spurs your point? Nash Avged 5 more points 2 more ast better field goal % sure impressive. Who does Nash have on his team? Word really Amare Stoudemire Shawn Marion and Barbosa who came off the bench avg 20 ppg. Kidd has The All Star Caliber Jason Collins and Mikki Moore and Nachbar off the bench YEA!! What happened when Nachbar Joined th eNets with J Kidd? Oh yea one of the best 3 point shooters now. Who the hell is Mikki Moore? The guy who lead the NBA with a 62% field goal percentage? after only starting 5 games in his 9th season in the NBA. Jason Collins well he still the crappy Center who plays very goo ddefense in the playoffs, but hey Nash is teh amazing.

Jason Kidd also has Richard Jefferson and Vince friggin Carter on his team, who I believe both average over 20 a game. Plus with the way you nets fans talk about Kristic he sounds like he should be able to light the lamp. And did you just try and argue how good Moore, Collins and Nachbar are? Because thats what it sounds like. The suns are a good team but its not like Kidd is playing with the Hawks or anything. The Nets have a team that should be competing for 1st place in the east, not barely making the playoffs.

Jefferson was gone for 2 months and avg 16 a game.Did i even say Collins was good? unless crappy means good now a days. Are you also saying Mikki Moore aint good? Obviously you havent seen him play latly and not know about his very bad career and what he has done this year. Also Nachbar who was one fo the top 3 point shooters in the NBA this year. Also if you would like to see Nenads games that he played befor he got injured Nov 1-Dec 28 he was very important to the Nets and you didnt know that since you probably havent seen Nets games through out the season. Nenad would have made a big difference to the Nets record since he is far supieror player then our Center Jason Collins
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[QUOTE="nivet14"][QUOTE="NetYankEagle"][QUOTE="nivet14"]I will still say STEVE NASH MVP.NetYankEagle
Even though you know my argument was correc tand you reall yhave nothing to say but that. your beloved Nash wont get that trophy again in his career

We will see about that.

hes 33 now when better hope he does it in the 3 year he could possibly have left

Steve Nash still has some years left in him. STEVE NASH MVP