Why are all bad guys from RUSSIA?!

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#1 playpassenger
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First of all don't think I am a russian, or a pro-russian. I am pro-none.

I was just reminiscing the games I played since I started playing games.

Currently I am playing MGS2 on my ps2.

Suddenly a thought flashed in my mind, why do all these games have Russians as bad people and villains!? Are they so bad in real lives? I never met one.

But the games show them cunning and full of hatred and senseless, emotionless creatures.

Because these are made by the American developers?

If that's so, then are Russians nowhere in the game developing dept.?

Are russians not into making games?

If they are, then are they having their own consoles and their own games?

I remember, that Freedom Fighters, Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3, Hitman seriesand a few others had these russian men playing the villain roles.

Anyone there to suggest what's going on? And what is Russia's view on this? I am not ready to believe that they never retorted. Maybe Press pushed their heads down in the water while they were trying to speak. Yes, nowadays press people lie a lot and make news of what never happened or hide news that may not be of so much importance to their own selves. Its all manipulative. Manipulation for Money.

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#2 Paladin_King
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Well see...there was this thing called the Cold War....
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#3 Treflis
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Freedom fighter was based on " What if the Soviet union had managed to invade the US as a result of the Cold War MGS 2, I also think this take place durring the Cold War and as for Hitman, He gets a target and kill it, no matter the nationality or status. And Russia is in the game making department, hell the first game ever made was made by a Russian ( Pong), You have Cryostasis, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. as very recent games made by russian/ukrainian developers. I also think you're blowing this up way beyond what it really is, no doubt the US has many games that has Russians as "Enemies" but most of the time they take place during the Cold War setting. Other times It's most likely a coinincidence.
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#4 yaya_xp
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i think it 'is' and not 'was' & they still hate each other

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#5 MathMattS
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Not all bad guys in video games are Russian. For instance, in the Splinter Cell series, Nikoladze was Georgian, Sadono was Indonesian, and Dufraisne was American. There's really not much trace of Russian in classic villains like The Legend of Zelda's Ganon, Mario's Bowser, etc., either.

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#6 S0lidSnake
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nailed in the first reply, but this should help too..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War

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#7 MadVybz
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Actually, Tetris was created by a Russian. I can't remember his name though. Probably Boris :D

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because russians are badass

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Freedom fighter was based on " What if the Soviet union had managed to invade the US as a result of the Cold War MGS 2, I also think this take place durring the Cold War and as for Hitman, He gets a target and kill it, no matter the nationality or status. And Russia is in the game making department, hell the first game ever made was made by a Russian ( Pong), You have Cryostasis, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. as very recent games made by russian/ukrainian developers. I also think you're blowing this up way beyond what it really is, no doubt the US has many games that has Russians as "Enemies" but most of the time they take place during the Cold War setting. Other times It's most likely a coinincidence.Treflis
MGS 3 takes place during the cold war, two might be around 2010 or a little before. I forgot the exact year but it was in the future from when it came out. There seem to be just as many games where other nationalities are the enemies.
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#10 playpassenger
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Thanks for your inputs. Okay, this was a one sided story. But similarly, Russians must be feeling the same way for the Americans, so aren't they putting Americans as the bad guys in their games, or are there no gaming houses headed by Russia?
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#11 bigboss894
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Hell i hated COD4's story I've seen it a million times:Russian get the nukes blah blah,Americans and the Brits stop them and save the world.It's not that I hate Americans or Russians but whouldn't it be better to add somethin new like in Crysis tke Koreans are the enemy and one of the most powerfull forces in the world,in Fallout 3 there are Chinese etc.etc.
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#12 muthsera666
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Well see...there was this thing called the Cold War....Paladin_King
Much of the discrimination against Russian characters in Western games is still a holdover from the days of the Cold War, like Paladin_King spoke of. Direct attacks were not out in the open, but demonization of the other culture was the main way of attack.
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#13 rockguy92
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The Red Cyclone disagrees:

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#14 Flashpenny
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Not all bad guys in video games are Russian. For instance, in the Splinter Cell series, Nikoladze was Georgian, Sadono was Indonesian, and Dufraisne was American. There's really not much trace of Russian in classic villains like The Legend of Zelda's Ganon, Mario's Bowser, etc., either.

MathMattS

Are you sure because last time I checked Bowser's text bubble in Super Mario Galaxy read: "I will create this new galactic empire in the name of Mother Russia comrade!" On the other hand I was playing frat boy beer pong so that might have had something to do with it

(Note this is a joke. No one take it seriously.)

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#15 Nastyfootballpl
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well I for one believe russians are EVIL!!! and so should everyone else!!! Nah just kidding, but really I think it was just because the game was based around the cold war. I doubt racism really took part in it, it was just realistic for the time it was based on. thats all. On the other hand, what IF game developers are racist? I can only wonder and believe what I find logically possible and or probable in such a world where logic only goes as far as the physical realm, while in the mental and imaginary realms the possibilities are utterly endless... or are they...
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#16 Business_Fun
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"Russia will rise again - and Ray is the key!"

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#17 Kreatzion
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Um that's because Russia is evil. Duh!

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#18 qwertyoip
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Hell i hated COD4's story I've seen it a million times:Russian get the nukes blah blah,Americans and the Brits stop them and save the world.It's not that I hate Americans or Russians but whouldn't it be better to add somethin new like in Crysis tke Koreans are the enemy and one of the most powerfull forces in the world,in Fallout 3 there are Chinese etc.etc.bigboss894
I like the in fallout 3 there are chinese part -.- russians are the bad guys? Let me introduce you to every WWII shooter ever made.
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#19 Crimsonia
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And Middle-Easterns.

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#20 qwertyoip
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And Middle-Easterns.

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and germans.... I realize a pattern. Its pretty much only white people. THATS RACIST
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#21 Faith_of_Ruin
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No its becuase we russians are hated :(.. just kidding.. really i think its becuase of the cold war like some others are saying.
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#22 J_Knolling
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Well, most people out there writing in the video game industry are probably in their late 20's at the earliest to their late 30's are early 40's. Meaning that they all grew up while the Cold War was still very active, and that while they were raised(were they raised in America) being told that Russia was their enemy. That kind of thing doesn't go away easily.

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#23 capthavic
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That's not fair...at least half of all bad guys are from the middle east XD
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#24 Faith_of_Ruin
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J has a good point though. it would make sense seeing aas the russians were our main rival during the cold war and arms race
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#25 hopenui
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Because All the media you're consuming are from USA

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#26 Faith_of_Ruin
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i wont argue there either... we dont know what to trust really... people are capable of lying to make others feel better... so idk there..
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#27 67gt500
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Their present leader is the biggest thug on the face of the earth...
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#28 Faith_of_Ruin
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Russia or America? becuase both leaders are just following their general beliefs of life style. Im not supporting any or either ones style of living just thats how it is
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#29 applesxc47
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because russians are badass

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#30 meiaman
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I believe one game shows the what TC means.


Empire Earth, there is this campaign that is made on the future (a supposedly situation).

You play as Russia in a try to make the country glorious again and start dominating everywhere, but when you are about to invade the US, the Russians all of sudden are pictured as the bad guys and you`re forced to change side with the "good guys" which happens to be the Americans.

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#31 amol_sm
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Maybe all russian are master mind in gaming !
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#32 rojbin100
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Also in C&C:red alert series it is not just they are the bad side but they also betray each other like in RA2 Yuri betrays and RA3 Cherdenko betrays besides the U.S is always the good and winning side.:question:

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#33 Abigor88
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because americans are badass

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First of all don't think I am a russian, or a pro-russian. I am pro-none.

I was just reminiscing the games I played since I started playing games.

Currently I am playing MGS2 on my ps2.

Suddenly a thought flashed in my mind, why do all these games have Russians as bad people and villains!? Are they so bad in real lives? I never met one.

But the games show them cunning and full of hatred and senseless, emotionless creatures.

Because these are made by the American developers?

If that's so, then are Russians nowhere in the game developing dept.?

Are russians not into making games?

If they are, then are they having their own consoles and their own games?

I remember, that Freedom Fighters, Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3, Hitman seriesand a few others had these russian men playing the villain roles.

Anyone there to suggest what's going on? And what is Russia's view on this? I am not ready to believe that they never retorted. Maybe Press pushed their heads down in the water while they were trying to speak. Yes, nowadays press people lie a lot and make news of what never happened or hide news that may not be of so much importance to their own selves. Its all manipulative. Manipulation for Money.

playpassenger

There's the cold war, and then there's Russia being all aggresive towards other countries nowadays.

This thread will turn *is turning* into politics.

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#35 Got_to_go
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because russians are badass

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