The Next Generation of vidoegame consoles

what are your thoughts and predictions on how the next generation of vidoegame consoles will be like.

My actual knowledge of what the next generation will be like is this.

ATI/AMD is making the entire Xbox 720 (code name by the way, hope they don't stick with it) by themselves. Microsoft will not intervene in pretty much any way because ATI told them that the GPU chipset was too hot and would be ruined by the fact it didn't have enough cooling and the solder mixture was a disaster. They are basically upscaling the 360's current architecture so that backwards compatibility will not be an issue while retaining the 360's ease of programming. It will at earliest be released late 2011, early 2012 more likely.

Sony and Nintendo are both shopping around for companies to develop their systems. Again ATI/AMD is in talks with both of them, and there is a high chance that the development teams of the next generation Xbox and Playstation will be housed in the same building but taking the utmost precaution of not spilling secrets between each division. But the PS4 is not even in development yet. Not even theoretically on paper.

I know these to be true as my uncle who worked on the 360 for ATI years ago is now already working on the Xbox 720 and tells me about the happenings with Sony.

I do know for a fact that the PS4 will not be made out of duct tape and spackle as one of my inebriated friends so eloquently stated.

I'm pretty certain that Sony will be utilizing CELL in the next iteration of their console. Since CELL is designed to be fully scaleable, they can get the PS4 to be uber-powerful while minimizing costs at the same time.

As for Nintendo, they'll need to come up with some kind of new apparatus if they want to stay ahead of the game. I can guarantee that if they ever tried to get into a graphics arms race again, they will lose. Didn't work for them in the N64 era nor the GC era so its a given that they won't be repeating the same mistake thrice.

My actual knowledge of what the next generation will be like is this.

ATI/AMD is making the entire Xbox 720 (code name by the way, hope they don't stick with it) by themselves. Microsoft will not intervene in pretty much any way because ATI told them that the GPU chipset was too hot and would be ruined by the fact it didn't have enough cooling and the solder mixture was a disaster. They are basically upscaling the 360's current architecture so that backwards compatibility will not be an issue while retaining the 360's ease of programming. It will at earliest be released late 2011, early 2012 more likely.

Sony and Nintendo are both shopping around for companies to develop their systems. Again ATI/AMD is in talks with both of them, and there is a high chance that the development teams of the next generation Xbox and Playstation will be housed in the same building but taking the utmost precaution of not spilling secrets between each division. But the PS4 is not even in development yet. Not even theoretically on paper.

I know these to be true as my uncle who worked on the 360 for ATI years ago is now already working on the Xbox 720 and tells me about the happenings with Sony.

I do know for a fact that the PS4 will not be made out of duct tape and spackle as one of my inebriated friends so eloquently stated.

SemiMaster

[QUOTE="SemiMaster"]

My actual knowledge of what the next generation will be like is this.

ATI/AMD is making the entire Xbox 720 (code name by the way, hope they don't stick with it) by themselves. Microsoft will not intervene in pretty much any way because ATI told them that the GPU chipset was too hot and would be ruined by the fact it didn't have enough cooling and the solder mixture was a disaster. They are basically upscaling the 360's current architecture so that backwards compatibility will not be an issue while retaining the 360's ease of programming. It will at earliest be released late 2011, early 2012 more likely.

Sony and Nintendo are both shopping around for companies to develop their systems. Again ATI/AMD is in talks with both of them, and there is a high chance that the development teams of the next generation Xbox and Playstation will be housed in the same building but taking the utmost precaution of not spilling secrets between each division. But the PS4 is not even in development yet. Not even theoretically on paper.

I know these to be true as my uncle who worked on the 360 for ATI years ago is now already working on the Xbox 720 and tells me about the happenings with Sony.

I do know for a fact that the PS4 will not be made out of duct tape and spackle as one of my inebriated friends so eloquently stated.

Floppy_Jim

Since development of the 720 is ahead of that of the PS4 by a good margin, I'd expect that if Sony rushed their next console out like MS did with the 360, it may be even worse than the PS2 with regard to reliability and durability. That would suck.Angry_Beaver

I know these to be true as my uncle who worked on the 360 for ATI years ago is now already working on the Xbox 720 and tells me about the happenings with Sony.

SemiMaster

You have a cool Uncle. My Uncle has VD.

I'm pretty certain that Sony will be utilizing CELL in the next iteration of their console. Since CELL is designed to be fully scaleable, they can get the PS4 to be uber-powerful while minimizing costs at the same time.

BladesOfAthena

this makes a lot of sense. All they really have to do is include a next gen GPU, 2 gigs of RAM and hope that the manufacturing cost of the PS3 is down to $200 by 2011 and they're good to launch PS4 at $300.

Edit: it would also make it really easy for PS4 to be backwards compatible too. I really hope Sony has someone as smart as you. :)

But they probably dont.

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I'm pretty certain that Sony will be utilizing CELL in the next iteration of their console. Since CELL is designed to be fully scaleable, they can get the PS4 to be uber-powerful while minimizing costs at the same time.

S0lidSnake

this makes a lot of sense. All they really have to do is include a next gen GPU, 2 gigs of RAM and hope that the manufacturing cost of the PS3 is down to $200 by 2011 and they're good to launch PS4 at $300.

Edit: it would also make it really easy for PS4 to be backwards compatible too. I really hope Sony has someone as smart as you. :)

But they probably dont.

I am hoping for this as well. I'm enough of a dork that I will buy the PS4 whatever price day one, but it would be nice if they didn't launch so high. Sony needs to have learned this lesson above all else this gen.

Im thinking that it all might be in high depth. Well higher depth. :PSolors

I expect the next xbox to be out in 2010 christmas launch to try and oust Nintendo as being behind the times, and attempting to take a number one spot. Christmas 2010 leaves us with just about another solid 2 years, theres no way I see MS waiting longer than that no way in hell. The Wii 2 is already rumored to be in development as well and I expect a 2011 launch from Nintendo. and there isnt even really whisperings of a PS4 yet.GodModeEnabled

I expect the next xbox to be out in 2010 christmas launch to try and oust Nintendo as being behind the times, and attempting to take a number one spot. Christmas 2010 leaves us with just about another solid 2 years, theres no way I see MS waiting longer than that no way in hell. The Wii 2 is already rumored to be in development as well and I expect a 2011 launch from Nintendo. and there isnt even really whisperings of a PS4 yet.GodModeEnabled

I'm thrilled with this generation, so whenever MS & Sony get around to making new one's is fine by me. Take your time, get it right.btaylor2404

[QUOTE="btaylor2404"]I'm thrilled with this generation, so whenever MS & Sony get around to making new one's is fine by me. Take your time, get it right.SemiMaster

I'm certainly not clamoring for new hardware, it seems like we see better games each year on these systems, and as long as that keeps up, I don't really need to rush into a new console generation.

Everything will be chrome and sitting on 35 inch dubs.MrHoboX

They will come with gaming chairs with huge 808 speakers that bump harder than a working girl in Amsterdam.

[QUOTE="MrHoboX"]Everything will be chrome and sitting on 35 inch dubs.HiResDes

They will come with gaming chairs with huge 808 speakers that bump harder than a working girl in Amsterdam.

[QUOTE="SemiMaster"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]I'm thrilled with this generation, so whenever MS & Sony get around to making new one's is fine by me. Take your time, get it right.rragnaar

I'm certainly not clamoring for new hardware, it seems like we see better games each year on these systems, and as long as that keeps up, I don't really need to rush into a new console generation.

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"]I expect the next xbox to be out in 2010 christmas launch to try and oust Nintendo as being behind the times, and attempting to take a number one spot. Christmas 2010 leaves us with just about another solid 2 years, theres no way I see MS waiting longer than that no way in hell. The Wii 2 is already rumored to be in development as well and I expect a 2011 launch from Nintendo. and there isnt even really whisperings of a PS4 yet.SemiMaster

I don't expect the Wii 2 to be in development after all Nintendo are already farming it in with the current Wii. To be honest though I don't know what Nintendo are going to do with their next console considering they've alienated the hardcore gamers while their largest userbase consists of casual gamers who probably don't care about a new Nintendo console.Trooperdx3117

All I know is that its not going to be this super duper uber mega powerhouse like the PS3, that's for sure. I'm absolutely positive that it won't.

[QUOTE="SemiMaster"][QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"]I expect the next xbox to be out in 2010 christmas launch to try and oust Nintendo as being behind the times, and attempting to take a number one spot. Christmas 2010 leaves us with just about another solid 2 years, theres no way I see MS waiting longer than that no way in hell. The Wii 2 is already rumored to be in development as well and I expect a 2011 launch from Nintendo. and there isnt even really whisperings of a PS4 yet.GodModeEnabled

Well I can't say for certain, and my uncle is just one of the graphics card engineers at ATI, but he insists they won't launch before 2011, Microsoft learned from their lesson. But yes, clearly 2010 would make them have such a headstart on the next generation it would not be funny, but I fail to see how they can come up with a stable system and manufacture them fast enough, we are reaching the limits of lithography and clock speeds right now without massive supercooling, and we all know what the issue was with the current Xbox. I still would bank on 2011.SemiMaster

Well I can't say for certain, and my uncle is just one of the graphics card engineers at ATI, but he insists they won't launch before 2011, Microsoft learned from their lesson. But yes, clearly 2010 would make them have such a headstart on the next generation it would not be funny, but I fail to see how they can come up with a stable system and manufacture them fast enough, we are reaching the limits of lithography and clock speeds right now without massive supercooling, and we all know what the issue was with the current Xbox. I still would bank on 2011.SemiMaster

They can take the AMD/ATI route and just simply fuse the GPU and CPU together into one, allowing for better performance per wattage, which would mean lower power consumption, given that one of the initial hurdles of the X360's architecture was with regard to its heavy power consumption.

[QUOTE="SemiMaster"]Well I can't say for certain, and my uncle is just one of the graphics card engineers at ATI, but he insists they won't launch before 2011, Microsoft learned from their lesson. But yes, clearly 2010 would make them have such a headstart on the next generation it would not be funny, but I fail to see how they can come up with a stable system and manufacture them fast enough, we are reaching the limits of lithography and clock speeds right now without massive supercooling, and we all know what the issue was with the current Xbox. I still would bank on 2011.GodModeEnabled

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"][QUOTE="SemiMaster"]Well I can't say for certain, and my uncle is just one of the graphics card engineers at ATI, but he insists they won't launch before 2011, Microsoft learned from their lesson. But yes, clearly 2010 would make them have such a headstart on the next generation it would not be funny, but I fail to see how they can come up with a stable system and manufacture them fast enough, we are reaching the limits of lithography and clock speeds right now without massive supercooling, and we all know what the issue was with the current Xbox. I still would bank on 2011.SemiMaster

[QUOTE="SemiMaster"][QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"] Oh I would gladly wait the extra year for a system that didnt try to kill itself at random intervals, I really hope they talk the time to bring the quality assurance on this thing up to standards. Im curious just how much of a leap the next generation is going to be given that we are reaching the roof on videogame technology from what I see. Im betting they are going to become even more PC like in the next generation in regards to hardware configurations and features.Joshy485