So I'm disappointed by the MGS HD Collection...

There's one reason why I am not happy with this collection.

They say that the most popular games are in the collection. If that's the case...

Then why is the original MGS not available in this collection??? I would have bought the collection if it was a complete collection, but that's sadly not the case. And of course, there's Metal Gear Solid 4, which still remains a PS4 exclusive and I keep hearing it's the best Metal Gear to date. Yes, I'm sure that game was not included because it's that big of a game to be part of the collection, so that one doesn't matter to me as much. But the original Metal Gear Solid was very popular back in its heyday...so why it wasn't included is beyond me at this point in time!

If you had a PS3, you could just download MGS1 from the PSN store store for only $10.

If you had a PS3, you could just download MGS1 from the PSN store store for only $10.S0lidSnake

I agree 100% with you, i would have bought it if it had had the original mgs, if its supposed to be a collection then why leave the best one out? The original mgs will always be my favorite, im very disappointed.

[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]If you had a PS3, you could just download MGS1 from the PSN store store for only $10.foxhound_fox

You are complaining about a colleciton that includes three games. One of them with a full fledged online component. How many HD collections come with three games all running at 60 fps, let alone with online functionality? The answer is none.

We are talking about a series with over 6 games in the past 12 years. Unless you want to pay up $120 for the collection (which no one will), Konami has to look at what they can improve and work from there. They can do absolutely nothing to the original MGS that the PC version cant. ANY PC or laptop nowadays should be able to run MGS1 easily. What is Konami going to do, remake the whole thing? Oh wait they did that already. Should they include that as well? Personally, I would rahter have Peace Walker with online coop than a 13 year old game that is available on FIVE different platforms. (PC,PS1,PS3,PSP,GC) Sometimes complaining just for the sake of complaining gets old.

Also asking why MGS4 has remained exclusive is like asking why Gears has remained exclusive. It's an excluisve because it's an exclusive. If I want to play Halo, I will buy a 360. I wont complain about it being a Xbox exclusive.

Whilst there is no actual word on why MGS4 has remained exclusive to PS3 I'm sure Sony has had a word with Konami and set up a deal with them for it's exclusivity. Plus you could also be asking that same question as to why Portable Ops hasn't made it onto the collection.

EDIT: Plus 3 is the best one to date and don't let it discourage you if you have not played a Metal Gear game before, that game alone is worth this collection. Read up on MGS1 (the story isn't that complex or long) and then play 2, 3 and the Peace Walker and you'll be fine. Plus 4 was overrated by critics, it's probably the worse (still good) but the worse one out of the series.

The problem with MGS4 is it can never really be on Xbox due to the Single Player alone is like, 25GB-30GB, and MGO (which is one of my favorite online games ever) is another 20GB We're talking swapping like 3-4 disc for story mode, and at least 2 for multiplayer. A total package of 5-6 discs. All I want is peace walker, so i'll buy the collection when its $20 (which should be around spring 2012) and in the meantime I'd rather replay MGS3 in 3D personally, even if it isn't as good as a value to buy both the 3DS version of Snake Eater and the eventual cheaper HD Collectionbonesawisready5

I assuming MGS1 isn't included due to the fact it's kinda hard to justify putting a fifth-generation era game into a collection that is solely focused on a "HD" re-releases. Not much you can do to a game on an engine running that old that'll make it look like HD aside from upscaling it and that'll look like crap. I mean how many HD collections/re-releases have we seen that include fifth generation games? None.

And MSG4 is a PS3 exclusive, simple as that.

This is my main problem with the collection as well. As far as I know, there's been no official reason why MGS 1 wasn't included. If you are going to have a MGS collection, why not include the original 3d game which made the franchise so popular? It doesn't make any sense to me.Just-Breathe

it's an HD collection.

What;s the point of converting MGS1 to HD?

[QUOTE="Just-Breathe"]This is my main problem with the collection as well. As far as I know, there's been no official reason why MGS 1 wasn't included. If you are going to have a MGS collection, why not include the original 3d game which made the franchise so popular? It doesn't make any sense to me.S0lidSnake

it's an HD collection.

What;s the point of converting MGS1 to HD?

That's not the point.

The point is, if it's supposed to be a collection of the most popular games in the series, why wasn't MGS 1 included?

[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

[QUOTE="Just-Breathe"]This is my main problem with the collection as well. As far as I know, there's been no official reason why MGS 1 wasn't included. If you are going to have a MGS collection, why not include the original 3d game which made the franchise so popular? It doesn't make any sense to me.Metamania

it's an HD collection.

What;s the point of converting MGS1 to HD?

That's not the point.

The point is, if it's supposed to be a collection of the most popular games in the series, why wasn't MGS 1 included?

[QUOTE="Metamania"]

[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

it's an HD collection.

What;s the point of converting MGS1 to HD?

AcidSoldner

That's not the point.

The point is, if it's supposed to be a collection of the most popular games in the series, why wasn't MGS 1 included?

And MGS 1 wouldn't do well in HD, you're saying? What if it was The Twin Snakes Gamecube version that Nintendo got?

Ultimately speaking you probably will have tremendous trouble playing MGS1 13 years after it's come out. It won't make sense for a new generation to play it, because it's so outdated. I'd be nice to have yes, but if someone buys this HD collection and tries MGS1, it will potentially leave a bad taste in their mouths. Plus it was always like this, why is this a problem for you now? Enjoy what's there, seek out MGS1 on PSN or eBay if you must, but don't miss out on this collection despite it.

[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"][QUOTE="Metamania"]

That's not the point.

The point is, if it's supposed to be a collection of the most popular games in the series, why wasn't MGS 1 included?

Metamania

And MGS 1 wouldn't do well in HD, you're saying? What if it was The Twin Snakes Gamecube version that Nintendo got?

And MGS 1 wouldn't do well in HD, you're saying? What if it was The Twin Snakes Gamecube version that Nintendo got?Metamania

[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"][QUOTE="Metamania"]

That's not the point.

The point is, if it's supposed to be a collection of the most popular games in the series, why wasn't MGS 1 included?

Metamania

And MGS 1 wouldn't do well in HD, you're saying? What if it was The Twin Snakes Gamecube version that Nintendo got?

KojiPro didn't do Twin Snakes and most MGS fans hate the cinematics. I can compeltely understand Konami staying clear of something they did not develop.

Also, adding another game to the collection would've made it cost $80. Would you have paid $80 for the MGS HD collection?

I'd have much rather ended up with an HD MGS remake than MGS2 simply because the events in Snake Eater and Peace Walker correlate more directly to the events in the original Metal Gear Solid, while MGS2 is the first turd in the MGS4 punchbowl. But whatever -- you get Snake Eater, one of the best (if not THE best) games ever made. That alone is worth the cost of admission.

And to those in the thread who are pining for MGS4 to come to Xbox, don't bother -- it's trash. Play the games in the series that were GOOD and then just pretend it ended after Snake Eater or Peace Walker. You can thank me later. :)

Metal Gear Solid 4 still remains a PS4 exclusiveMetamania

Well not only can you download it for PS3 for $10, but you can also find it MUCH cheaper then that online. I got MGS1 6 years ago for $5, and as a PSone game you can still play it on PS3.

If you have Xbox, then tough luck I guess, but even then I'd find it hard to believe you don't own a PSone, PS2 or PC made any time in the last 10 years that could play it (its on PC too right? I remember that, but I might remember it wrong. Pretty sure it is though).

[QUOTE="Metamania"]Metal Gear Solid 4 still remains a PS4 exclusiveBlack_Knight_00

I blame my typing for the error. :P

I totally understand & can relate. The Silent hill HD collection is coming out & it only includes 2 & 3 & all i can think is why not 1 & 4. 4 can be converted to HD so why not have 2,3,4, all of whcih were ps2 games.

As far as i know ps1 games would make no sense to convert to HD, it would just make them look worse. Im not even sure on whether they can produce a ps1 title HD. Either way the way to solve this issue is to atleast give out voucher codes for people to download MGS1 on PSN. They should do the same with Silent hill 1 for its collection as well.

As far as MGS4 goes its already in HD so it wouldnt make any sense for the collection anyways. I also think most MGS fans will have already purchased 4. Nobody wants to be charged twice. Also have to take in the fact that these collections are on both systens & MGS4 is a SONY exclusive.

[QUOTE="Just-Breathe"]This is my main problem with the collection as well. As far as I know, there's been no official reason why MGS 1 wasn't included. If you are going to have a MGS collection, why not include the original 3d game which made the franchise so popular? It doesn't make any sense to me.S0lidSnake

it's an HD collection.

What;s the point of converting MGS1 to HD?

I still don't understand the point of converting ANY game into HD.

As for the complaints of MGS, Konami isn't going to invest the money into completely retooling a 32-bit game into HD quality. That would be compelely uneconomical. They would have to make a whole new game for that to happen.

I totally understand & can relate. The Silent hill HD collection is coming out & it only includes 2 & 3 & all i can think is why not 1 & 4. 4 can be converted to HD so why not have 2,3,4, all of whcih were ps2 games.

brucecambell

I'm thinking Konami doesn't consider SH4 to be a part of the main series, which is unfortunate. Minus the terrible inventory system, the game was pretty solid.

[QUOTE="brucecambell"]

I totally understand & can relate. The Silent hill HD collection is coming out & it only includes 2 & 3 & all i can think is why not 1 & 4. 4 can be converted to HD so why not have 2,3,4, all of whcih were ps2 games.

QuistisTrepe_

I'm thinking Konami doesn't consider SH4 to be a part of the main series, which is unfortunate. Minus the terrible inventory system, the game was pretty solid.

I can understand not wanting to do an HD version of the original MGS, but why not just do an HD version of Twin Snakes? JustPlainLucas

Unfortunately it's most likely impossible. Konami must have had some deal reached with Nintendo to keep it exclusive, plus there are some Nintendo easter eggs in that game, including cutscenes.

It's the same thing with Silent Hill, with the original not being included. Not that I would buy the HD collection anyway.

Yeah, the first game should have been included. Fortunately I have it for the NGC.

I was going to sell my Wii, but I probably won't now because I own Twin Snakes, and always want to be able to go back and replay it every few years. (Wii U won't allow you to play Gamecube games, sadly.) So if you are complaining about the absence of MGS1, and you own a Wii, the choice is clear: get yourself a copy of Twin Snakes pronto. I know I look forward to playing it right before the HD MGS box set comes out. donalbane

inorite! isn't it awesome??? I want to start playing it again!

So if you are complaining about the absence of MGS1, and you own a Wii, the choice is clear: get yourself a copy of Twin Snakes pronto. I know I look forward to playing it right before the HD MGS box set comes out. donalbane

Copies of Twin Snakes are unfortunately hard to come by, and expensive.

Also, I can't help but think of Macbeth every time I see your username :lol: