Saints Row IV Won't Be Sold In Australia - Ban Upheld

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#1 Posted by ShermheadRyder (83 posts) -
What do you guys think of this? I personally think it's ridiculous; adults should have the free will to choose to play what they wish. http://uk.gamespot.com/news/saints-row-iv-ban-upheld-in-australia-6412149
#2 Posted by phantomxxxxxxx (21 posts) -

Clearly Australian adults are not mature enough to play that game.

#3 Posted by Tokeism (2334 posts) -
Its cheaper to import any way
#4 Posted by Jimn_tonic (819 posts) -

huh?

I thought they finally implemented an 18+ rating, that would get rid of these garbage bans.

what's the problem now?

#5 Posted by Alpha_S_ (390 posts) -

The entire way Australia treats video games is ridiculous.  I don't get it. 

#6 Posted by Planeforger (15793 posts) -
So the problem is simply that the game can't feature drugs as a reward? That sounds easy enough to fix.
#7 Posted by MrGeezer (56525 posts) -
What do you guys think of this? I personally think it's ridiculous; adults should have the free will to choose to play what they wish. http://uk.gamespot.com/news/saints-row-iv-ban-upheld-in-australia-6412149ShermheadRyder
Question: can the ratings board simply choose to give the game a rating that allows it to be sold? Or would doing that be illegal under Australia's laws?
#8 Posted by turtlethetaffer (16788 posts) -

Poor Australia.

#9 Posted by Ish_basic (4029 posts) -

The entire way Australia treats video games is ridiculous. I don't get it.

Alpha_S_

after years of Crocodile Dundee and Foster's Beer commercials, gaming has taught us the truth about Australia. What a bunch of pansies. A little bit of comic violence and tongue-in-cheek lawbreaking and they're on top of the chair, clinching their skirts.

#10 Posted by ShermheadRyder (83 posts) -
[QUOTE="ShermheadRyder"]What do you guys think of this? I personally think it's ridiculous; adults should have the free will to choose to play what they wish. http://uk.gamespot.com/news/saints-row-iv-ban-upheld-in-australia-6412149MrGeezer
Question: can the ratings board simply choose to give the game a rating that allows it to be sold? Or would doing that be illegal under Australia's laws?

Yes they can. But the original unedited version of the game, which will be sold in UK,US etc will be illegal to sell in Australia.
#11 Posted by MrGeezer (56525 posts) -
[QUOTE="ShermheadRyder"] Yes they can. But the original unedited version of the game, which will be sold in UK,US etc will be illegal to sell in Australia.

I think I'm a little bit confused here. You say that they can choose to just give the game a passing rating regardless on content, but it's also illegal to sell the game. How does that work, exactly? Does that law specifically ban games containing certain content? Or does that law specifically ban games with a certain rating? Or does the law simply give the ratings board complete and total control in deciding what games are allowed? How exactly does this law work?
#12 Posted by Englandfc1966 (2206 posts) -
Doesn't really matter since they can just import from the UK, works out cheaper for them as well.
#13 Posted by Tokeism (2334 posts) -
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="ShermheadRyder"] Yes they can. But the original unedited version of the game, which will be sold in UK,US etc will be illegal to sell in Australia.

I think I'm a little bit confused here. You say that they can choose to just give the game a passing rating regardless on content, but it's also illegal to sell the game. How does that work, exactly? Does that law specifically ban games containing certain content? Or does that law specifically ban games with a certain rating? Or does the law simply give the ratings board complete and total control in deciding what games are allowed? How exactly does this law work?

There are classification guide lines which the board follows to rate game (g to r18), but in the end the board has total control over what games are allowed
#14 Posted by Justforvisit (5047 posts) -

The only BAN that is able to PASS in Australia is a RAY BAN I guess xD

#15 Posted by locus-solus (524 posts) -
couldn't y'all just import the game?
#16 Posted by GodModeEnabled (15314 posts) -
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#17 Posted by sukraj (23040 posts) -

import it.

#18 Posted by Pedro (21109 posts) -

What do you guys think of this? I personally think it's ridiculous; adults should have the free will to choose to play what they wish. http://uk.gamespot.com/news/saints-row-iv-ban-upheld-in-australia-6412149ShermheadRyder

Adults decided that other adults would make the decision of what games are acceptable. I don't understand why some folks cannot accept that not all societies are the same. I thought this was taught at an early age. :|

#19 Posted by nyc05 (10183 posts) -

Ridiculous beyond belief.

#20 Posted by hrt_rulz01 (6212 posts) -
For those who say to just import it, that's a big no-no. If you get caught importing it (unlikely I know but you never know), I think you get a massive fine.
#21 Posted by Tokeism (2334 posts) -
For those who say to just import it, that's a big no-no. If you get caught importing it (unlikely I know but you never know), I think you get a massive fine. hrt_rulz01
No, Its not illegal to own / import, its only illegal for an Australia store to sell it. Plus I think customs has more important things to do then stop the importation of a video game
#22 Posted by blangenakker (2383 posts) -
Yeah we got the R18+ but for some reason they only updated the use of violence and not drugs and sexual content
#23 Posted by hrt_rulz01 (6212 posts) -
[QUOTE="hrt_rulz01"]For those who say to just import it, that's a big no-no. If you get caught importing it (unlikely I know but you never know), I think you get a massive fine. Tokeism
No, Its not illegal to own / import, its only illegal for an Australia store to sell it. Plus I think customs has more important things to do then stop the importation of a video game

I'm sure I read on a document from the classification board that it's illegal to import it as well...
#24 Posted by Justforvisit (5047 posts) -

[QUOTE="Tokeism"][QUOTE="hrt_rulz01"]For those who say to just import it, that's a big no-no. If you get caught importing it (unlikely I know but you never know), I think you get a massive fine. hrt_rulz01
No, Its not illegal to own / import, its only illegal for an Australia store to sell it. Plus I think customs has more important things to do then stop the importation of a video game

I'm sure I read on a document from the classification board that it's illegal to import it as well...



Can only speak for germany and german law, but here, if a game is indicated, you are perfectly fine to still import it, even to BUY it. Ony SELLING and advertising for is forbidden. Buying, owning it = perfectly fine and legal.

Which makes the whole censoring / banning / indicating stuff even more ridiculous...ah well....

#25 Posted by locus-solus (524 posts) -

[QUOTE="hrt_rulz01"][QUOTE="Tokeism"] No, Its not illegal to own / import, its only illegal for an Australia store to sell it. Plus I think customs has more important things to do then stop the importation of a video gameJustforvisit

I'm sure I read on a document from the classification board that it's illegal to import it as well...



Can only speak for germany and german law, but here, if a game is indicated, you are perfectly fine to still import it, even to BUY it. Ony SELLING and advertising for is forbidden. Buying, owning it = perfectly fine and legal.

Which makes the whole censoring / banning / indicating stuff even more ridiculous...ah well....

at least theirs a loop whole
#26 Posted by Ish_basic (4029 posts) -

[QUOTE="ShermheadRyder"]What do you guys think of this? I personally think it's ridiculous; adults should have the free will to choose to play what they wish. http://uk.gamespot.com/news/saints-row-iv-ban-upheld-in-australia-6412149Pedro

Adults decided that other adults would make the decision of what games are acceptable. I don't understand why some folks cannot accept that not all societies are the same. I thought this was taught at an early age. :|

Stop it. Culture isn't a sufficient defense for idiocy (or much of anything for that matter). One can accept the idiosyncrasies of another (and by "accept" I mean cohabitate with those individuals) without respecting those behaviors as his/her own. To say nothing else about Australia, some of us would just prefer to live in a society where this particular kind of abridgement of free speech doesn't exist. Really nothing wrong with that. Certainly no need to be condescending.

#27 Posted by Pedro (21109 posts) -

Stop it. Culture isn't a sufficient defense for idiocy (or much of anything for that matter). One can accept the idiosyncrasies of another (and by "accept" I mean cohabitate with those individuals) without respecting those behaviors as his/her own. To say nothing else about Australia, some of us would just prefer to live in a society where this particular kind of abridgement of free speech doesn't exist. Really nothing wrong with that. Certainly no need to be condescending.

Ish_basic

In your view its idiotic and your view is based on the culture that has sculpted your way of thinking. You now have the belief that YOUR view is the "correct" point of view, making all views that doesn't fall in line with yours incorrect. But somehow I am the condescending one.:| I am not saying that my post canot be interpretted as such but, the reality still remains that the decision for Australia to ban the game is theirs and not yours. It maybe wrong for you but not for them. It does not make the people who made this decision idiotic but simply different. So could you kindly get over yourself?:D

#28 Posted by Metamania (12015 posts) -

Looks like things may be turning out differently now...

http://www.gamespot.com/news/modified-saints-row-iv-classified-ma15-in-australia-6412425

#29 Posted by Jacanuk (4722 posts) -
What do you guys think of this? I personally think it's ridiculous; adults should have the free will to choose to play what they wish. http://uk.gamespot.com/news/saints-row-iv-ban-upheld-in-australia-6412149ShermheadRyder
Who gives a flying buttprobe what they do with physical disc. People can just buy it online and download it so i cant really see a problem,
#30 Posted by Justforvisit (5047 posts) -

[QUOTE="ShermheadRyder"]What do you guys think of this? I personally think it's ridiculous; adults should have the free will to choose to play what they wish. http://uk.gamespot.com/news/saints-row-iv-ban-upheld-in-australia-6412149Jacanuk
Who gives a flying buttprobe what they do with physical disc. People can just buy it online and download it so i cant really see a problem,



You might think so, but the goverment is very well capable of forbid the distribution of the game online as well. Try get Dead Island from a german Steam Account, good luck!