Panzer Dragoon Saga: is it worth $200?

I've heard that this game is absolutely a must own if you have a Saturn. However, most don't own it because of how valuable this game is. The cheapest I have seen this game for was $150 on Ebay, unless you get the japanese version, which is considerably less. But since my japanese is mediocre at best, I am forced to pay out the teeth for this game if I ever wanted to play it. Of those who have either played Panzer Dragoon Saga or own it, does it justify its steep price? I know it's a great game, but is it THAT great?

well, people are right for saying its a must have, it is one of the best RPGs of that generation.

as for the price, it seems like the US version is more expensive then the PAL version, I wouldnt pay 200 dollars for it and wait.

alternatively, if you can get the PAL version for cheaper, go for it.

Honestly, no. I feel happy with the $30 I paid for the game in Japanese. But I wouldn't pay more than $50.

Honestly, no. I feel happy with the $30 I paid for the game in Japanese. But I wouldn't pay more than $50.

hakanakumono

I personally have the PAL version , which would actually work perfect on an NTSC Saturn due to it not being optimized at all.Darkman2007

Can you explain that a little further Darkman?Sorry to ask what may seem a stupid question, but are PAL saturn games playable on a north american saturn without any hassles?

I've always stuck to NTSC copies of games purely due to langauge issues, but are you saying that a PAL or UK version of a game can be just popped into an NTSC Saturn and run fine?

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

I personally have the PAL version , which would actually work perfect on an NTSC Saturn due to it not being optimized at all.TheKungFool

Can you explain that a little further Darkman?Sorry to ask what may seem a stupid question, but are PAL saturn games playable on a north american saturn without any hassles?

I've always stuck to NTSC copies of games purely due to langauge issues, but are you saying that a PAL or UK version of a game can be just popped into an NTSC Saturn and run fine?

To play a PAL region game you have a to have a PAL region console. The only way to get around this is if you have a moded system which can be risky, however it would still be cheaper then getting the American version of this game.

[QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

I personally have the PAL version , which would actually work perfect on an NTSC Saturn due to it not being optimized at all.Shenmue_Jehuty

Can you explain that a little further Darkman?Sorry to ask what may seem a stupid question, but are PAL saturn games playable on a north american saturn without any hassles?

I've always stuck to NTSC copies of games purely due to langauge issues, but are you saying that a PAL or UK version of a game can be just popped into an NTSC Saturn and run fine?

To play a PAL region game you have a to have a PAL region console. The only way to get around this is if you have a moded system which can be risky, however it would still be cheaper then getting the American version of this game.

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

I personally have the PAL version , which would actually work perfect on an NTSC Saturn due to it not being optimized at all.TheKungFool

Can you explain that a little further Darkman?Sorry to ask what may seem a stupid question, but are PAL saturn games playable on a north american saturn without any hassles?

I've always stuck to NTSC copies of games purely due to langauge issues, but are you saying that a PAL or UK version of a game can be just popped into an NTSC Saturn and run fine?

[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

[QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

Can you explain that a little further Darkman?Sorry to ask what may seem a stupid question, but are PAL saturn games playable on a north american saturn without any hassles?

I've always stuck to NTSC copies of games purely due to langauge issues, but are you saying that a PAL or UK version of a game can be just popped into an NTSC Saturn and run fine?

AcidSoldner

To play a PAL region game you have a to have a PAL region console. The only way to get around this is if you have a moded system which can be risky, however it would still be cheaper then getting the American version of this game.

Honestly the game doesn't hold up as well as people tend to argue. I get the feeling most that hold the game in such high regard have not even played the game, but only read about it. I can deal with older gen 3D when it is done well--mario 64, tekken 3, twisted metal 2--but PDS just looks very garbled. It reminds me of watching a bluray, and then going back and watching FMV on teh Sega CD.

Honestly the game doesn't hold up as well as people tend to argue. I get the feeling most that hold the game in such high regard have not even played the game, but only read about it. I can deal with older gen 3D when it is done well--mario 64, tekken 3, twisted metal 2--but PDS just looks very garbled. It reminds me of watching a bluray, and then going back and watching FMV on teh Sega CD.

Heirren

I think PDS looks just fine for when it was released.Darkman2007

Key statement. The game just doesn't hold up as well. I still play Twisted Metal 2 to this day. Mario 64 still looks just fine. PDS, imo, just tried to do too much with the system. I don't know if you've ever played Starfox 2 on the snes, but I get the same feeling from that game.

The graphics might not hold up too well, but the gameplay and the soundtrack do. I first played through this game not too long ago, and enjoyed it very much thanks to the fact that the game is still quite unique.

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] I think PDS looks just fine for when it was released.Heirren

Key statement. The game just doesn't hold up as well. I still play Twisted Metal 2 to this day. Mario 64 still looks just fine. PDS, imo, just tried to do too much with the system. I don't know if you've ever played Starfox 2 on the snes, but I get the same feeling from that game.

You could likely get around the 50hz dilemma if you're using a HDTV, or anything but an old-style tube TV. As for the game being worth $200: YES, though if you can get the PAL version and an Action Replay or ST-Key cart to play it, then go for it. Same game, just a noticeably lower framerate.

You could likely get around the 50hz dilemma if you're using a HDTV, or anything but an old-style tube TV. As for the game being worth $200: YES, though if you can get the PAL version and an Action Replay or ST-Key cart to play it, then go for it. Same game, just a noticeably lower framerate.

pills4louis

I've seen some rare Jaguar game sell for an insane amount of money.

Not worth it unless you bathe in money or really want it but can't get it otherwise.

Not worth it unless you bathe in money or really want it but can't get it otherwise.

nameless12345

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Not worth it unless you bathe in money or really want it but can't get it otherwise.

pills4louis

well to be fair, 200 dollars is alot to spend on a game, even if its a fantastic one.

I would tell people to get the PAL version which is cheaper, or even the JP version with a script which costs even less (you can get it for no more then £20)

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Not worth it unless you bathe in money or really want it but can't get it otherwise.

pills4louis

What does that have to do with what I said?

I just think no game is worth that much money.

I'm a student fyi.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Not worth it unless you bathe in money or really want it but can't get it otherwise.

pills4louis

[QUOTE="pills4louis"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Not worth it unless you bathe in money or really want it but can't get it otherwise.

AcidSoldner

or attempt to look for a rare good deal on the game, like I did.

I paid £60 for it , PAL version , but that was years ago , and it seems the price has gone up somewhat.

[QUOTE="pills4louis"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Not worth it unless you bathe in money or really want it but can't get it otherwise.

AcidSoldner

[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"][QUOTE="pills4louis"]...Do you not have a job or something?

pills4louis

[QUOTE="pills4louis"]

[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"] Oh, do you bathe in money? If so please purchase everyone in this thread a copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga NTSC. The rest of us will get back to our lives with bills and other expenses.skooks

[QUOTE="skooks"][QUOTE="pills4louis"]I can take care of bills and still afford $100 worth in video game-related expenses a month. Not having a paper hat job helps.

Darkman2007

I know what you mean. I guess it depends as much on its worth to the individual as much as its releative worth within the collecting world.

I had both 1 and 2 for the Saturn, and they were great games; however, there's no way I could ever justify paying that much unless you're a collector. I'd never pay that much just because I wanted to play the games again, because they just aren't worth that price.

There are actually games I'd pay that much to own. Pretty much any Xenogears or Xenosaga game if they were otherwise unavailable. It may seem excessive, but there's nothing of that calibur (in my opinion) being released out of Japan right now.

I do want to reiterate that it is a great game and oen fo the best on the Saturn. It is true that the 3D can look kind of strange at times and it tends to be overrated (especially in the graphics department, including FMV). But at the same time it has pretty unique, good gameplay. I think it holds a lot of merit in it being a unique experience with fun battles. There's also the story component, but I have a harder time following it (although I have read the story online).

I bought the Japanese versions of rare Saturn games because of the massive price difference. Too bad my Japanese is at the elementary level and it'll still be a few years of studying before I can really play and understand them.

There are actually games I'd pay that much to own. Pretty much any Xenogears or Xenosaga game if they were otherwise unavailable. It may seem excessive, but there's nothing of that calibur (in my opinion) being released out of Japan right now.

I do want to reiterate that it is a great game and oen fo the best on the Saturn. It is true that the 3D can look kind of strange at times and it tends to be overrated (especially in the graphics department, including FMV). But at the same time it has pretty unique, good gameplay. I think it holds a lot of merit in it being a unique experience with fun battles. There's also the story component, but I have a harder time following it (although I have read the story online).

hakanakumono

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

There are actually games I'd pay that much to own. Pretty much any Xenogears or Xenosaga game if they were otherwise unavailable. It may seem excessive, but there's nothing of that calibur (in my opinion) being released out of Japan right now.

I do want to reiterate that it is a great game and oen fo the best on the Saturn. It is true that the 3D can look kind of strange at times and it tends to be overrated (especially in the graphics department, including FMV). But at the same time it has pretty unique, good gameplay. I think it holds a lot of merit in it being a unique experience with fun battles. There's also the story component, but I have a harder time following it (although I have read the story online).

Darkman2007

That's true, other games got away with having 2D backgrounds with 3D characters or 3D characters with 2D backgrounds, but generally not both. I think the game looked pretty good in the larger environments, but in the smaller environments, like the town ... it didn't look great.

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

There are actually games I'd pay that much to own. Pretty much any Xenogears or Xenosaga game if they were otherwise unavailable. It may seem excessive, but there's nothing of that calibur (in my opinion) being released out of Japan right now.

I do want to reiterate that it is a great game and oen fo the best on the Saturn. It is true that the 3D can look kind of strange at times and it tends to be overrated (especially in the graphics department, including FMV). But at the same time it has pretty unique, good gameplay. I think it holds a lot of merit in it being a unique experience with fun battles. There's also the story component, but I have a harder time following it (although I have read the story online).

hakanakumono

That's true, other games got away with having 2D backgrounds with 3D characters or 3D characters with 2D backgrounds, but generally not both. I think the game looked pretty good in the larger environments, but in the smaller environments, like the town ... it didn't look great.

I think overall, Grandia is the best looking game I've played on the Saturn. No, it's not particularly advanced. But everything it does, it does well. It's just very well rounded visually.

I think overall, Grandia is the best looking game I've played on the Saturn. No, it's not particularly advanced. But everything it does, it does well. It's just very well rounded visually.

hakanakumono

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

I think overall, Grandia is the best looking game I've played on the Saturn. No, it's not particularly advanced. But everything it does, it does well. It's just very well rounded visually.

Darkman2007

I think the biggest difference between the games is probably the transparencies on the PS1 ver, which make a big difference in how battles look. Overall, I might give the edge to the PS1 ver because of this, although I'm perfectly happy with my Saturn ver that I own.

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

I think overall, Grandia is the best looking game I've played on the Saturn. No, it's not particularly advanced. But everything it does, it does well. It's just very well rounded visually.

hakanakumono

I think the biggest difference between the games is probably the transparencies on the PS1 ver, which make a big difference in how battles look. Overall, I might give the edge to the PS1 ver because of this, although I'm perfectly happy with my Saturn ver that I own.

this game is definetely worth the 200$ I mean if you buy 3 or 4 brand new games it's same price except those games will be worth less than 10 in one year. saga keeps it's value so if you are low on cash you could always sell it and have played it basically for free. I once made the mistake of selling it and regretting it intensely. I bought it back again and will never sell it again. I've never played a game like it and it has the best stoyrline I've ever seen including movies and books

Honestly, no. I feel happy with the $30 I paid for the game in Japanese. But I wouldn't pay more than $50.

hakanakumono