One thing I hate about MMORPG's

I find it seriously annoying when you played hard building your character up and you take a lot of pride in yourself, kicking arse in battlegrounds, mastering your hotbars and tweaking/customising your character to the right balance. Only to have some dwarf who is 5 levels lower come walking up, knock you down disabling your character for a ridiculous duration and then hit you for an attack which outdamages your damage focus character of superier level!

What i'm getting at here is simply class balance, where the developers favor a certain class or overlook skills which players catch onto and exploit to the maximum. I absoltey hate it! You can't win every fight but when you lose a fight that's simply made impossible because someone presses 1,2,3 on the keyboard and that's all it takes you beat you, it makes me just delete the game and tell it to go **** itself.

Being responsible for class balance in MMORPG's must be a very difficult job, I respect that.

I love MMO games. But I don't really play them anymore. Last one was WoW. But yeah I know the feeling. But I mean they won't ever truly balance classes in MMO games. When they nerf one, they have to nerf another. IMO Hunters are one of the most overpowered classes in WoW. My Hunter and my pet were like a well tuned killing machine. I could easily devour people my lvl and higher. But then you play a priest or a warrior and you feel like such underpowered classes. Then you have to play in groups to benefit.

I understand you gripe, but what fun is a MMO game if everythign in the world is equal? I think it would totally offset the economy and kind of defeat the purpose of classes in general. Every classes has strengths and weakesses. Thats just the way it works and the way it always will be.

I agree it is stupid and infuriating. On the flipside I think if everything was totally balanced out then players would feel like nothing mattered, nothing was unique, nothing was new. But game designers are seriously deranged in their decision making skills. They do stupid things for no reason and when people complain they ignore it. It happens in offline games too. Just imagine how much worse console games would be with no QA/Testing people.

The game i'm refering to with that little instance was Warhammer Online, atlhough i've encountered plenty of similar things from past games. The Ironbreaker dwarf class has been far to loved by the Games Workshop crew, they like their dwarfs and are very proud of them. They feel that a dwarf should be tough and hit hard so they make it so. They give them ridiculous attacks such as a 5 second knockdown (a long time to be out of control of your character in that game, especially if you got more then one surrounding you) their standard bread and butter melee attack hits harder then the Witch Elf (the opposing teams top damage dealer) they wear the best armor in the game and have a knockback move which sends you flying back over 150 feet and into larva or down a cliff.

The results of this class in-balance has caused devastation to the games community already. 80% of the servers destruction team are pretty much pushed right back to their capitol city and win about 1 in 5 battlegrounds. The destruction team can't do anything about it, we play our best but our best can be simply countered by a few instant button presses by that particular class. It takes whole groups of people with concentrated fire to bring them down, meanwhile the rest of his team are free to pick you off.

I love MMO games. But I don't really play them anymore. Last one was WoW. But yeah I know the feeling. But I mean they won't ever truly balance classes in MMO games. When they nerf one, they have to nerf another. IMO Hunters are one of the most overpowered classes in WoW. My Hunter and my pet were like a well tuned killing machine. I could easily devour people my lvl and higher. But then you play a priest or a warrior and you feel like such underpowered classes. Then you have to play in groups to benefit.

I understand you gripe, but what fun is a MMO game if everythign in the world is equal? I think it would totally offset the economy and kind of defeat the purpose of classes in general. Every classes has strengths and weakesses. Thats just the way it works and the way it always will be.

e3li7e

This is actually pretty funny as well, because when WoW was in beta and just after launch, Hunters and Warlocks were a free kill for any other class in the game. I used to slaughter them on my very first character, which was a Ret Paladin. Back then Rogues were the top dogs, and they were for a pretty long time even after launch. If they got the drop on you, it was game over.

Now it's completely opposite, Ret Paladins are the free kill and Hunters/Warlocks are sometimes unstoppable.

I totally left Warhammer online and have dipped the CD in Coca Cola, dried it with a scours and i'm now using it as a place-mat for my cup of jasmin tea. I wish I could have my £50 back from buying the collectors edition, that marks the last fantasy tank and healer MMO i will ever play. The Agency and DC Online, i'm counting on you.

I find it seriously annoying when you played hard building your character up and you take a lot of pride in yourself, kicking arse in battlegrounds, mastering your hotbars and tweaking/customising your character to the right balance. Only to have some dwarf who is 5 levels lower come walking up, knock you down disabling your character for a ridiculous duration and then hit you for an attack which outdamages your damage focus character of superier level!

What i'm getting at here is simply class balance, where the developers favor a certain class or overlook skills which players catch onto and exploit to the maximum. I absoltey hate it! You can't win every fight but when you lose a fight that's simply made impossible because someone presses 1,2,3 on the keyboard and that's all it takes you beat you, it makes me just delete the game and tell it to go **** itself.

Being responsible for class balance in MMORPG's must be a very difficult job, I respect that.

TristanShand

Sounds like you need to get better.

Sounds like you need to get better.

savinger

Sounds like you got no idea what i'm talking about. Did you ever play Everquest when it originally came out? You know it had a class called the Shadowknight. The shadowknight was the polar opposite of the Paladin; the paladin had a skill called Lay on hands; Lay on hands is a skill that completely heals the player instantly; the shadowknight is it's polar opposite; the shadowknight has Harm Touch; Harm touch completely kills it's target instantly. This is where the term "Win Button" came from.

Some things are beyond our power, we have our limits. I want you to jump over my vehicle while i'm driving towards you at 90mph. If your face is splattered over my windscreen i'll lean over past the steering wheel and say to you "Looks like you need to get better". By the way, I drive a truck.

[QUOTE="e3li7e"]

I love MMO games. But I don't really play them anymore. Last one was WoW. But yeah I know the feeling. But I mean they won't ever truly balance classes in MMO games. When they nerf one, they have to nerf another. IMO Hunters are one of the most overpowered classes in WoW. My Hunter and my pet were like a well tuned killing machine. I could easily devour people my lvl and higher. But then you play a priest or a warrior and you feel like such underpowered classes. Then you have to play in groups to benefit.

I understand you gripe, but what fun is a MMO game if everythign in the world is equal? I think it would totally offset the economy and kind of defeat the purpose of classes in general. Every classes has strengths and weakesses. Thats just the way it works and the way it always will be.

cru3

This is actually pretty funny as well, because when WoW was in beta and just after launch, Hunters and Warlocks were a free kill for any other class in the game. I used to slaughter them on my very first character, which was a Ret Paladin. Back then Rogues were the top dogs, and they were for a pretty long time even after launch. If they got the drop on you, it was game over.

Now it's completely opposite, Ret Paladins are the free kill and Hunters/Warlocks are sometimes unstoppable.

At least for another week, in the current beta Ret Pallies are near unbeatable.

As said before there will always be balancing issues in MMOs therefore creating IMBA characters or skills. I've been through quite a few MMOs with Guild Wars being the longest lasting one for me. Every other month they would release a patch to nerf or buff certain skills and each time a problem would be created for every problem solved. Even if a skill seems fine in PvE you might suddenly go into PvP and see people abusing the skill. :(thebrown07

So true. Some MMO's have players experiencing an issue where they don't even play on a PVP server yet they find skills they use often becoming weaker as it's being balanced for PVP combat. I think this is a good debate, except i'm so peeved off with Warhammer Online at the moment it's difficult to read when your seeing red.

Another thing to hate about MMORPGs: everything else.

lack of developed plot; lack of detailed characters and NPCs; lack of roleplaying; lack of innovation; lack of gameplay (when the same button functions for walking/running/opening/fighting/spellcasting/talking/viewing/fishing); missing dialogue trees and character progression; hours of slavery; in-game marriage; spaming; camping for hours; LAG!!!!!; etc.