Is it true that handheld games will never be as powerful as console games?

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#1 planetvash112
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(sorry if this doesn't belong here)

I've been told that they will never be good as console games, but I think they're equal

What do you think?

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#2 efrucht
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It's all about each person's opinion, really. Which platform has the best games is all subjective.
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#4 raahsnavj
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False: The DS (handheld) is more powerful than the NES (console). True: The PSP is NOT more powerful than a PS3, X360 It depends on how you look at it. If you compare current gen handhelds to current gen consoles then it is completely true handhelds will not be as powerful.

Better... that is a complete opinion that isn't worth discussing. What if you want portable gaming and only portable gaming? What if you want the best graphics ever... etc. too many requirements to base the opinion on to care to do the analysis.
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#5 Gammit10
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Wow
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#6 GodModeEnabled
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[QUOTE="raahsnavj"]False: The DS (handheld) is more powerful than the NES (console). True: The PSP is NOT more powerful than a PS3, X360 It depends on how you look at it. If you compare current gen handhelds to current gen consoles then it is completely true handhelds will not be as powerful.

Better... that is a complete opinion that isn't worth discussing. What if you want portable gaming and only portable gaming? What if you want the best graphics ever... etc. too many requirements to base the opinion on to care to do the analysis.

Sorry but the DS is more powerfull hardware wise than a NES......
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#7 mohmaaytah
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False: The DS (handheld) is more powerful than the NES (console).raahsnavj

What on earth are you talking about? This is easily the most ignorant comment I have heard in a long long time. How about you check your facts first?

CPU: NES 1.7MHz, DS 67MHz
RAM: NES 2KB , DS 4MB

Need I go on? I tell you what, stick to games, leave the technical stuff.

Now for a more reasonable answer, no you can't have a portable that is as powerful as the console of its generation or indeed a generation earlier in cases because of the technical issues involved. the CPU and GPU sizes, thermal envelopes and power requirements are not interchageable. You would have to wait until that technology can be manufactured to provide the same output at a lower thermal envelope, lower power requirements (battery) and size.That said the PSP is rather impressive for what it does but it does not beat the PS2 due to those issues above.

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#8 OneWingedAngeI
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i think you guys misread him. his false was in reply to the topic question.
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#9 raahsnavj
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i think you guys misread him. his false was in reply to the topic question.OneWingedAngeI
Thank you. Yes this is what I meant, Sorry I didn't make myself clearer in the first place. I also want to point to SEANMCAD's response as a good answer.
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#10 Redshark691
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Well the psp I think is better than the original playstation and teh gameboy advance is equal to the snes so yeah they can be better.
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#11 elemnopee
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depends on what you mean by good

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#12 elemnopee
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If you mean good as in good gameplay etc. yes the DS version of Mario 64 is better than the N64 version imo.
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#13 Boba_Fett_3710
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It's not a matter of power, it's a matter of cost. If companies wanted to, they could make a handheld with the power of the 360 or PS3. The reason we don't is because the technology doesn't exist (because companies have not developed it yet) or it would be too expensive for the market. No company is going to make a handheld that nobody will be able to afford.

Personally, when I was a kid, I never thought I would see a hand-held go 3-D. Just look at the DS and PSP. The future is now, people.

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It's unlikely that handhelds of the same generation as a console not be as powerful because it takes years to miniaturize hardware technology of a particular performance. However, if you compare cross generation, handhelds can powerful, as given as an example, NES with NDS.
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#15 foxhound_fox
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Technologically they can never be. Handhelds will always be behind by at least a generation when it comes to hardware.
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#17 bigM10231
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the highest bit size of any handheld is 32 and thats gbasp ds and psp and the nokia n-gage

the computing power is nearly the same as its bigger counterparts

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#18 203762174820177760555343052357
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The way I see it the PSP and the PS2 were concurrent systems (and still are technically) and the PSP is just as powerful as the PS2. I'll get pseudo-flamed for that, but that's my opinion.

Some analyst was talking the other day about how we won't have "set-top" consoles in the "future" how it will all be hand-helds that interact with TV's when you want the big screen experience. Who knows.

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#19 Ash2X
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I couldn´t say Handheld games aren´t as much fun as console-game...after all it´s all about gameplay.THe hundrets of rip-offs aren´t as good as the originals,but Original Games are another question.If the programmers do well it´s possibel...but they usually don´t.

From a technical Point of View,I´d say no.On one point because of the size of the Handhelds,on the other side they whould be much more expensive then a Home-Console which whould be tough to sell.Plus you can´t cool the systems that easy,so you couldn´t even simply a GeForce 8800-Chip in a Handheld...

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#20 kingsofstreet
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Pretty soon your handheld will also be your console... Never say Never, ever.
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#21 soopernewt
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um i think hand helds will rule i mean can u take a tv with u on a plane or camping ya i thout so
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#22 Idioth_ND312
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Of course not. I'm sure that, less that 10 years from now, they'll be able to make a handheld more powerful than the PS3. They could probably even do it now. Problem is, it'd be very expensive and very big.