Do you approve of DLC? Pls still comment

#1 Edited by Ariabed (1101 posts) -

I myself have refrained from buying dlc I've never liked the idea of it, I realised straight away it's just a clever way of game companies making more money out of me. I think the only dlc I've ever bought was a weapon pack for Deus ex, and I felt dirty afterwards, I had to take like 10 showers, all i got was a antique looking shotgun 10,000 credits and something else that I can't even find. Was totally not worth it paying real money for in game credits didn't sit right with me. I'm more than happy to buy a game play that game to completion and fcuk the dlc.

Do you buy every piece of dlc for a game, and are the dlc expansions substantial, am I missing out?

#2 Posted by Jacanuk (3925 posts) -

If DLC is worth the cost depends very much on who is making it and what the dlc is

you have the bad like the first Bioshock and other season pass DLC´s, Payday 2 etc.

But you also have the good like Rockstar´s GTA IV DLC where both ads so much new content that its almost like a whole new game, and that is how a DLC should be.

#3 Edited by Renegade_Fury (17026 posts) -

Not usually. I miss the days of expansion packs because they had enough new content to be standalone games.

#4 Posted by SoNin360 (5279 posts) -

Generally not. DLCs tend to be short in length and end up being close to the price of the actual game once it's been out for a while. It's best to buy it bundled if you can or just wait for some sort of complete edition.

#5 Posted by Archangel3371 (15266 posts) -

Well I've purchased dlc that I felt was worth it so in general I would say yes it is but it all depends on the content, the individual, and what they expect out of it.

#6 Posted by El_Zo1212o (6005 posts) -

It's pretty hit or miss. Sometimes you get screwed(Arkham Origins season pass), sometimes you get awesome(GTA4 TLaD, RDR Undead Nightmare), and(if you're like me) sometimes you just keep shelling out because it's awesome(Sleeping Dogs costumes, Just Cause 2 weapons & vehicles).

#7 Posted by yngsten (192 posts) -

Depends on the DLC, individual taste and wallet, plain and simple..

#8 Posted by Ariabed (1101 posts) -

@yngsten: it's not plain and simple, I'm asking about people's experiences with DLC. As I never really bother with it.

#9 Edited by stationplay_4 (443 posts) -

the only DLC i felt content with buying is Skyrim's DLC and The Last of Us's.

#10 Edited by yngsten (192 posts) -

@ariabed said:

@yngsten: it's not plain and simple, I'm asking about people's experiences with DLC. As I never really bother with it.

Topic: Is DLC good value for money? So I said it depends on the DLC, some offer new lands to explore, others merely a "horse armor" and it also depends on the appeal it has on individuals, if I'm a warrior I might not find the "Staff of Flames" that interesting, but a Sorcerer might... so yeah, it's pretty much that simple. I've been satisfied with some DLC, other DLC not, some I ignore...but I find DLC that offer substantial content (good ol' expansion) more appealing rather than the item money grabs.

#11 Edited by Ariabed (1101 posts) -

@yngsten: cheers, And yeh your right I need to change the title of this thread :)

#12 Posted by The_Last_Ride (69782 posts) -

i only buy story DLC or something that adds to the game. Mass Effect, Dragon Age and Assassin's Creed are good examples

#13 Posted by geniobastardo (1295 posts) -

i only buy story DLC or something that adds to the game. Mass Effect, Dragon Age and Assassin's Creed are good examples

other than that, I buy DLCs only when they're dirt cheap.

#14 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (9943 posts) -

Do You remember Expansion Packs ?

DLC is nothing compared to that.

#15 Posted by Basinboy (10985 posts) -

The concept of DLC? Sure, additional stuff to do in already awesome games is welcome, IMO. If only every game released added content as good as Left Behind, Minerva's Den, Artorias of the Abyss, etc., then I'm sure we'd all be pretty enthusiastic for it.

Pricing and the richness of content are the two attributes usually lacking. But some devs get it and have done a good job with their DLC offerings.

#16 Posted by The_Last_Ride (69782 posts) -

@The_Last_Ride said:

i only buy story DLC or something that adds to the game. Mass Effect, Dragon Age and Assassin's Creed are good examples

other than that, I buy DLCs only when they're dirt cheap.

Depends on the quality though

#17 Posted by geniobastardo (1295 posts) -

@geniobastardo said:

@The_Last_Ride said:

i only buy story DLC or something that adds to the game. Mass Effect, Dragon Age and Assassin's Creed are good examples

other than that, I buy DLCs only when they're dirt cheap.

Depends on the quality though

yup. Like the games you've mentioned, I buy them regardless of their price but I missed Dragon Age one.

#18 Edited by Ariabed (1101 posts) -

@Lulu_Lulu: are expansion packs not DLC? forgive my stupidity Like I said I just buy a game play through the story and I'm done. I mean if I by added story will there be enough of a story to get into it or will it just end prematurely?

#19 Posted by The_Last_Ride (69782 posts) -

@The_Last_Ride said:

@geniobastardo said:

@The_Last_Ride said:

i only buy story DLC or something that adds to the game. Mass Effect, Dragon Age and Assassin's Creed are good examples

other than that, I buy DLCs only when they're dirt cheap.

Depends on the quality though

yup. Like the games you've mentioned, I buy them regardless of their price but I missed Dragon Age one.

Awakening from DA Origins is a game on it's own. I recomend it. I mostly get what i want when i buy DLC and i am satisfied with it. Because i know what i like

#20 Posted by johnd13 (7917 posts) -

i only buy story DLC or something that adds to the game. Mass Effect, Dragon Age and Assassin's Creed are good examples

Same here. I recently bought all story DLCs for Dishonored and Dragonborn for Skyrim and I'm happy I did as they turned out to be great experiences. Of course I waited for a steam deal and a 50% price drop.

#21 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (9943 posts) -

@ Ariabed

Its not Stupid at all. Expansion are pretty much DLC, only difference they are like whole new games... Kind of like Far Cry's Blood Dragon or uhm...... I can't even think of another recent one. The reason theres so much confusion about them is because Expansion Packs are so rare they've practically become as mytholigical as the locness monster or the Two-nicorn (its like a Unicorn with 2 horns, it originated in Egualia).

Last Time I bought an Expansion was Creature Isle for Black & White.

The only time I get DLC now is when I buy the complete editions of games, President Evil 5 Gold Edition or Arkham City GOTY Edition. I'd rather repurchase the entire game again with DLC than buy DLC seperately mostly because DLC is pretty expensive. I don't like Season Passes either.... Just look at what happrned with Bioshock Infinte.... What a ripp off. Its like Pre-Ordering except this time you don't know whats coming.

In a Perfect World

Sports Games

Assassin's Creed

Call of Duty

Street Fighter

would all be like World of Warcraft: One Game with 10 Expansions.

#22 Posted by geniobastardo (1295 posts) -

@The_Last_Ride: Thanks for the recommendation. I'll be getting that before Inquisition.

#23 Edited by MirkoS77 (7016 posts) -

If I had a choice I'd rather it not exist, but if it's handled well I have no issues with it. Day 1 is bullshit though and is nothing more than stripping finished content out to nickel and dime us. If it arrives 3-4 months after the release and is priced accordingly, no trouble. I usually try to refrain from buying it and will instead wait for the GotY edition later on though if it's a franchise I'm a huge fan of (Batman's Catwoman DLC) I'll buy sooner.

#24 Posted by jdc6305 (3791 posts) -

I no longer buy games the day they come out because of DLC. I wait for complete editions and price drops. The shorter the game the longer I wait. If a game is 5 hours long I'll wait till it's dirt cheap. Metal Gear Rising is a perfect example. It's down to $20 new now which is more acceptable to me. I'm gonig to pick it up soon. I won't pay full price if I think it's a rip off. Batman Arkham City is another example. I waited and got the Game of year edition for $20. Back in the day I had no problem paying full price for a game because it was a finished product. Now they try to nickle and dime us on everything.

#25 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (9943 posts) -

@ jdc6305

Amen to that !

Actually I only pretend to be above DLC but the truth is I'm broke as hell and can't actually afford to buy a new game at $60 then $30 worth of DLC.

I'm not proud.... I'm just cheap. :)

#26 Posted by loafofgame (424 posts) -

I'm Loafofgame and I approve dlc.

Stripped of any business intentions I think dlc is a logical development, because well, it's downloadable. Ergo, convenience. That said, it can be used in questionable ways, although I'm often tempted to blame the consumer for any disappointing experiences. I firmly believe that in general you can pretty accurately predict whether a specific full game will be worth it and after that you can also assess whether the dlc will be worth it. I have to admit I usually wait for sales and since the formula 'lower monetary investment equals lower demands and expectations' regularly applies, I'm not discontent with my purchases very often, even though I probably should have been had I paid full price.

#27 Posted by mjorh (660 posts) -

Some of'em are necessary u know like the last dlc of Bioshock Infinite which u need to play to understand the whole story ...make a long story short , Story dlcs matter.

#28 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (9943 posts) -

What about Uploadable Content (ULC) ?

Shouldn't we be looking into a ULC concept ?

#29 Posted by Ariabed (1101 posts) -

@Lulu_Lulu: that's what I did with fallout3 I bought the GOTY edition for next to nothing even though I already had the original version. I've played through a couple of the added stories they're only an hour or two worth of gameplay so depending on how much each story would have been when first released, I don't think it would have been worth it, saying that, you do get some good weapons and armour for completing the stories I guess, Chinese stealth armour anyone? yes please!!!

#30 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (9943 posts) -

@ Ariabed

I still think its weird people like that game an even weirder that theres a group of people who liked Fallout 1 and 2 even more.

#31 Posted by Ariabed (1101 posts) -

@Lulu_Lulu: never heard of fallout till fallout3, fallout3 is a great game once you get a few objectives on the go and feel like you have some purpose, u can explore and search buildings other vaults for supplies, I just loved the futuristic retro style anyway your other point about ULC, isn't that just modding which of course only PC gamers have the luxury of, how would it work for consoles?

#32 Posted by The_Last_Ride (69782 posts) -

@The_Last_Ride: Thanks for the recommendation. I'll be getting that before Inquisition.

You should get most of the DLC except for the DLC where you play as Darkspawn. That is rather boring tbh.

#33 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (9943 posts) -

@ Ariabed

User Generated content.

It all Started with Minecraft. And pretty soon will end with Project Spark.

Its such a shame theres no Multiplatform Equivalent that rivals that game.... Although Disney Infinity's Toy Box did try.

#34 Posted by speedfreak48t5p (6625 posts) -

Do You remember Expansion Packs ?

DLC is nothing compared to that.

Rockstar says hi.

#35 Edited by Lulu_Lulu (9943 posts) -

@ speedfreak48t5p

Rockstar Sucks.

I wouldn't buy their main game, let alone their expansions.

#36 Posted by thereal25 (328 posts) -

@ariabed said:

@Lulu_Lulu: that's what I did with fallout3 I bought the GOTY edition for next to nothing even though I already had the original version. I've played through a couple of the added stories they're only an hour or two worth of gameplay so depending on how much each story would have been when first released, I don't think it would have been worth it, saying that, you do get some good weapons and armour for completing the stories I guess, Chinese stealth armour anyone? yes please!!!

Ah yes... some of that fallout 3 dlc was pretty decent.

But with fallout new vegas I found the dlc was pretty much essential.

So with fallout 4 I might just be inclined to wait for the inevitable goty edition lol.

#37 Posted by jasean79 (2338 posts) -

I think there's more to DLC than just making money. DLC also adds life to a game, especially ones that rely heavily on the MP component. I mean, look at COD for example or even Halo. If they released all of the maps and weapon upgrades with the game at launch, how many people would still stick around with it a few months later? BUT, if they hold out on a specific map until 3 months after launch, that makes those who might be sick of it to stick around for one more go.

As much as I dislike DLC at times, it really is genius for game developers. It adds depth to a game and makes money for them. Why wouldn't they offer it?

#38 Edited by Ariabed (1101 posts) -

@thereal25: @mjorh: oh I see so as well as making you pay for added content that could of been in the game from day1, bio shock infinite are making you buy DLC if you want the whole story, no fair. So they're giving you 3/4 of a game and making you buy the last bit that's exactly why I don't like DLC.

@thereal25; it takes great discipline to resist a shiny new game, and wait for it to be cheaper or for a GOTY copy, especially when all you hear about is how amazing said game is. Lol

#39 Posted by geniobastardo (1295 posts) -

@The_Last_Ride: playing as the darkspawn. That sounds boring as it is.

#40 Posted by The_Last_Ride (69782 posts) -

@The_Last_Ride: playing as the darkspawn. That sounds boring as it is.

Yeah i bought that to try it out, it wasn't worth it. At least it wasn't expensive. But yeah, story driven games with good DLC is a good thing as long as it doesn't take anything away from the original game

#41 Edited by thereal25 (328 posts) -

Companies are smart.

Psychologically it sounds better to have the base game at $60 and have $20 dlc as opposed to just having a $80 game.

But we as consumers have to be smart too. We have to ask ourselves - do I really want that dlc - is it necessary? - is it worth it?

And the same applies to the game itself.

Personally I don't mind dlc - even day one dlc - because I know I always have the option of waiting for steam specials down the track!

#42 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (9943 posts) -

@ thereal25

"But we as consumers have to be smart too."

yeahhh thats never going to happen. If Microsoft just hung in there I'm sure they couldve implimented their original DRM policy for the Xbox One. Pretty much like valve with steam way back in 2005. They just hung in they because they new gamers aren't smart. They know we don't like forming our own oppinions and prefer to have reviews do it for us and distill that oppinion down to a single number. Gamers are screwed.

#43 Edited by Lulu_Lulu (9943 posts) -

@ thereal25

And Companies are beyond smart. They are freaking genius. If only you knew the sh!t they've been up to.

There was one guy who figured out the trend but he was too late. Games were already doing it. We couldve stopped this if only we knew sooner.

www.gamasutra.com/blogs/AndrzejMarczewski/20140422/215939/Gamification_Design_vs_Game_Design.php

#44 Posted by Ariabed (1101 posts) -

@thereal25: extra content/story ok I can respect that but when it comes to holding back the whole story in the main game only to release the rest of the story in DLC then that's wrong.

#45 Edited by Ariabed (1101 posts) -

@Lulu_Lulu: you really reckon we could have stopped this?

#46 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (9943 posts) -

@ Ariabed

Actually No. This level of conditioning is extremely persuasive, some jack ass actually gave it a name... "Exploitationware". Even I'm having a hard time acting like I'm above it all when I'm actually not. One lapse in judgement and I could be a Hardcore DLC whore. or I could just go back to pirating stuff. anything could happen. :(

#47 Posted by Shmiity (5013 posts) -

I hardly ever buy DLC. Once I buy a game, that's it, Im done with it. I hate pre-order bonuses, too.

#48 Posted by shellcase86 (1934 posts) -

Free DLC is dandy. But I pass on paid DLC, unless it's part of a GOTY package.

#49 Posted by thereal25 (328 posts) -

@ariabed said:

@thereal25: extra content/story ok I can respect that but when it comes to holding back the whole story in the main game only to release the rest of the story in DLC then that's wrong.

I suppose it seems a bit dodgy. But if you think about it, dlc is just a label.

You could think of it as a psychological trick by the industry to get people to spend more on the game.

So, in my experience, sometimes dlc is more of an enthusiast bonus kind of thing and then sometimes it's almost essential to the game... but the maths is still there...

... and the same question always arises, ie.: "is this game worth x amount of money right now or should I wait?"