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#1 Fantasy_Gamer
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I'm specifically referring to the Viera clan in FFTA and FFXII. I may be wrong, but that's the only reference I can think of.


FFXII Viera


A Playboy Bunny

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#2 lordgodalming
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At least these bunnies leave their tops on.  Sexualized female characters are nothing new for Square.  Why else would they spend hours animating a scene where Rikku unzips her scuba suit, or have Lulu take a big bow whenever she wins a battle?  And let's not forget the frequent overt sexual inuendos throughout FFVII: Tifa's underpants, the Honeybee club, Don Corneo, Cloud and Tifa right before disc 3.  But even with the Playboy bunnies in FFXII, I don't think FF is as obnoxiously sexualized as something like the DOA franchise or, heaven forbid, Rumble Roses.
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#3 Empi3
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FF is a Manga RPG =] SquareEnix just go with the flow. they want to satisfy us on every front. JP magic =]
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At least these bunnies leave their tops on.  Sexualized female characters are nothing new for Square.  Why else would they spend hours animating a scene where Rikku unzips her scuba suit, or have Lulu take a big bow whenever she wins a battle?  And let's not forget the frequent overt sexual inuendos throughout FFVII: Tifa's underpants, the Honeybee club, Don Corneo, Cloud and Tifa right before disc 3.  But even with the Playboy bunnies in FFXII, I don't think FF is as obnoxiously sexualized as something like the DOA franchise or, heaven forbid, Rumble Roses.
lordgodalming
i have to agree with you on that one, it's nothing new really, in fact DQVIII has playboy bunny style girls in it too...at least they dnt go too far with it...
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At least these bunnies leave their tops on.  Sexualized female characters are nothing new for Square.  Why else would they spend hours animating a scene where Rikku unzips her scuba suit, or have Lulu take a big bow whenever she wins a battle?  And let's not forget the frequent overt sexual inuendos throughout FFVII: Tifa's underpants, the Honeybee club, Don Corneo, Cloud and Tifa right before disc 3.  But even with the Playboy bunnies in FFXII, I don't think FF is as obnoxiously sexualized as something like the DOA franchise or, heaven forbid, Rumble Roses.
lordgodalming
Yeah, it's very annoying to me, but that's just going to happen when you have men designing a game...
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Sex sells.
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#7 omega235
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Sex sells.GoPhins123
yes it does
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[QUOTE="lordgodalming"]At least these bunnies leave their tops on. Sexualized female characters are nothing new for Square. Why else would they spend hours animating a scene where Rikku unzips her scuba suit, or have Lulu take a big bow whenever she wins a battle? And let's not forget the frequent overt sexual inuendos throughout FFVII: Tifa's underpants, the Honeybee club, Don Corneo, Cloud and Tifa right before disc 3. But even with the Playboy bunnies in FFXII, I don't think FF is as obnoxiously sexualized as something like the DOA franchise or, heaven forbid, Rumble Roses.
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Yeah, it's very annoying to me, but that's just going to happen when you have men designing a game...


Yeah...Those bunny ears look stupid, except when they are on the real deal. :P  Nah, but really I hate how TV shows, Games, and Movies have so much of this kind of stuff in them.  Its kind of sad really.
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#9 Inger1
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no one actually answered the question... lol

I don't actually know for sure but you never know... it might not be based on playboy :P... i admit the resemblance is similar and knowing the history of inuendo in FF I wouldn't doubt that it is based off of that but once again you never know it might just be a coincidence haha

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I don't really see the resemblance. There's lots of weird animal things with anime at least, cat girls, like Felicia in SF and all that. Playboy really has no affiliation with Final Fantasy. (The magazine has been going downhill for awhile now anyway :D)
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#11 omega235
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I don't really see the resemblance. There's lots of weird animal things with anime at least, cat girls, like Felicia in SF and all that. Playboy really has no affiliation with Final Fantasy. (The magazine has been going downhill for awhile now anyway :D)Headbanger88
how would you know that?
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[QUOTE="Headbanger88"]I don't really see the resemblance. There's lots of weird animal things with anime at least, cat girls, like Felicia in SF and all that. Playboy really has no affiliation with Final Fantasy. (The magazine has been going downhill for awhile now anyway :D)omega235
how would you know that?


I...umm...like to read!
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#13 omega235
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[QUOTE="omega235"][QUOTE="Headbanger88"]I don't really see the resemblance. There's lots of weird animal things with anime at least, cat girls, like Felicia in SF and all that. Playboy really has no affiliation with Final Fantasy. (The magazine has been going downhill for awhile now anyway :D)Headbanger88
how would you know that?


I...umm...like to read!

sure you do, and I am richest person in the world
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#14 Empi3
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heh. what do you read? the index? =]
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[QUOTE="Amnesiac23"]Yeah, it's very annoying to me, but that's just going to happen when you have men designing a game...-Pro-Link-

Yeah...Those bunny ears look stupid, except when they are on the real deal. :P  Nah, but really I hate how TV shows, Games, and Movies have so much of this kind of stuff in them.  Its kind of sad really.

yer it is kinda sad, but it's done and there's not that much that is going to get done about anytime soon really...maybe when ppl finally realise that there's almost as many female gamers as male gamers nowadays then something might get done about it..tho i doubt it..as the ppl at the top of all these companies are still are majorityly male...
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#16 Imaraider85
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I have a few questioons I would like to ask and my first one is how do you get pictures to show like that where you can see them and not the link and secondly how do you add vidoes to your union. Thanks in advance.
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#17 natiko
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They might've gotten some of the ideas from Playboy bunnies but I don't think it's like a direct influence...if that makes sense:P
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#18 -Pro-Link-
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They might've gotten some of the ideas from Playboy bunnies but I don't think it's like a direct influence...if that makes sense:Pnatiko

It makes sense, and I agree with it. Just because something has a resemblance, doesn't mean that it came from whatever it is it resembles.
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#19 Amnesiac23
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Yeah, I'm not sure that they read Playboy over there. They have their own porn mags right....
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Yeah, I'm not sure that they read Playboy over there. They have their own porn mags right....Amnesiac23
we're talking about japan here...lol they have noend of stuff like that..
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#21 omega235
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[QUOTE="Amnesiac23"]Yeah, I'm not sure that they read Playboy over there. They have their own porn mags right....robbristow
we're talking about japan here...lol they have noend of stuff like that..

and you would know that because...
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#22 Dark-Messenger
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On a side note, Viera is hotter than that Playboy bunny.....
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#23 Orasion_Seiz
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I have a few questioons I would like to ask and my first one is how do you get pictures to show like that where you can see them and not the link and secondly how do you add vidoes to your union. Thanks in advance.Imaraider85

thats kinda offtopic but anyway if you want to link an image, this is the format if i remember:

Image

And if you want to add a video to your union, first you need to upload it then put it in the Union Association category.

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#24 Headbanger88
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On a side note, Viera is hotter than that Playboy bunny.....Dark-Messenger

I admit that the playboy girl is a bit trashy but can you really compare pixels to the real deal?
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#25 KeybladeMasta
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I doubt it, because this race was also in Final Fantasy Tactics, the gameboy game, and the effects weren't that great and didn't even look remotely like a playboy bunny.
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#26 Empi3
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i think that japan ff fans had some influence on vieras =]
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#27 DreadChocobo
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That gets me wondering... how do the bunny rabit people make babies...

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#28 jimbo_mog
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hmmmm
in a similar fashion to rabbits maybe...... ALOT!...
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#29 Axe_336
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They're children of the forest maybe?  I dunno.

Anyway, to the question at hand,  The bunny girl outfits have been in anime for YEARS.  Since the original Dragonball at least, probably before.  They probably were originally inspired by the Playboy bunny outfits (I think that they use something like what you get in Dragon Quest VIII in casinos, but thats just an educated guess) however the bunny girl outfit is such a staple of anime now that it would be difficult to say anything done now is based on the original Playboy rather than other animes.  I think the catgirls are a similar thing.

As to the Viera being directly inspired by the bunny girl outfits in anime, etc. lets just say that if they had made a feline race I would instantly nail that as being based in anime's liking the catgirls....  So I'm going to say that the idea that the Viera were created independant of any sort of thought of "Hey, whats associated with sexy in fantasy creatures?" is unrealistic, but not impossible.

Finally I'll say that while I find that outcry against selling sex in the media on this board encouraging, I should remind those who think that realization of a gender balanced market is going to change things should look at other media outlets and see if they have ever stopped trying to sell sex.  TV, Music, Literature, Painting, they've all had long standings and they all still do it, so don't count on video games changing anytime...  Ever really.