Xbox 720 launching at $299 with Kinect 2?

[UPDATE] Alleged 2010 Microsoft document details Xbox 360 successor, claiming it will launch next year with updated Kinect and Blu-ray drive; augmented-reality glasses hitting in 2014; document removed at request of Microsoft's legal team.

A purported Microsoft document has shed light on what the Seattle technology giant may be planning for its next Xbox. The 56-page document posted to Scribd indicates an "Xbox 720" will launch in 2013 at $299 with an updated iteration of Microsoft's motion-control technology, tentatively dubbed "Kinect V2."

Microsoft's next Xbox may be on store shelves next year.

The new version of Kinect, according to the document, will support four-player full-body tracking and allow gamers to sit down while playing. On top of this, "Kinect V2" will be able to adapt to players' living rooms, meaning they will not need to move furniture for an optimal experience.

In addition, the document indicates that the new Xbox will boast a Blu-ray optical drive and promises "4x-6x" greater power over the Xbox 360. Speculation from earlier this year pointed to a new Xbox boasting a Blu-ray drive, as well as functionality that would curb used games. No mention was made in the document concerning the possibility of the console blocking, or in any way inhibiting, secondhand titles.

On top of this, the document also claims Microsoft is planning to add support for augmented-reality glasses for the new Xbox. This endeavor will be called "Fortaleza" and is planned to launch sometime in 2014. The glasses will reportedly run on Wi-Fi and 4G connections.

The literature also indicates that the Xbox 720 will feature some kind of "always on" functionality, but no additional information about this was offered. Microsoft reportedly has high hopes for the technology, as it predicts it will sell 100 million consoles over a 10-year life span, according to the documents.

Lastly, the document's "Cloud Value Proposition 2015" section indicates Microsoft is looking to cloud services for its future. The slides suggest Microsoft will offer future software and services through the cloud, thus removing the need to purchase new hardware ever again.

If the report is legitimate, it may not represent Microsoft's current planning for a new Xbox, as the material dates back to the middle of 2010.

[UPDATE] After the publication of this story, the document was removed at the request of Microsoft's legal team, Covington & Burling.

As of press time, Microsoft had not responded to GameSpot's request for comment on the matter. For more on the speculation regarding Microsoft's new console--as well as the Wii U and PlayStation 4--check out GameSpot's roundup feature.

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Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and would like to see the Whalers return to Hartford.

Discussion

425 comments
thequickshooter
thequickshooter

even if it's a 300$ next gen console 

 

still the always online and no used games kinda annoying the hell out of me 

 

i know it's to fight piracy but hurting legitemate gamers is just pure retarded 

 

why they can't just like take down TPB and torrent links off the net???

 

i mean seriously, why the DRM why all the bullshit because someone else commited a crime, fucking why

 

greedyness that's why

 

used games are a major seller for all the old ps3 games and thus the console is 100% reign free, but all new games has online which kills the used game usefullness 

 

but really microsoft, if you gonna do that dirty trick those assholes from blizzard

then i'll give sony my $$$ even if it's two times the price

DarthLod
DarthLod

"curb used games" and "always on" functionality = I wont be buying. If that is the future, then I will stop gaming. It's bad enough we have gestapo's of EA and Activision ruin the enjoyment of gaming with DLC fee's and other hogwash, but if they are forcing you to always be online to use a console you PAID for and then not let you play used games, I am DONE! The enjoyment of gaming will be utterly ruined, just like everything is once greedy corporations get a hold of things.

rohn13
rohn13

I bet microsoft is really going to hate writing those huge licensing checks to Sony and Disney for the Blu-ray drive in the Xbox 720.  For Xbox users sakes I hope MS doesn't skimp out and just license the actual drive technology for storage space and not license the movie playback software.  It would suck for Xbox720 owners if the Bu Ray drive in their machine but couldn't view the incredible sound and visual quality of blu ray movies because MS got cheap.  This was inevitable though becuase America's internet infastructure just isn't good enough to support streaming of increasingly larger and larger game sizes, especially with most ISP strangling our connections with data caps.

asimuv
asimuv

yes 500-700 usd. i hate kinect because professional gamer can't play with it.

mariokart64fan
mariokart64fan

always on connection? count me out, and doubt itll run for 300 dollars im betting 400-500  

 

treepop99
treepop99

Kinect is not good. I doubt Kinect 2.0 or 20.0 will be any good either.

Elegant810
Elegant810

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gamez1122
gamez1122

why is apple not building up its own gaming console.

gamez1122
gamez1122

I hope that it will show up in stores in 2014, because right now i am owning a new xbox 360.

Gotti22
Gotti22

Leszarom mennyi,megveszem...

 

 

Kelleyb4947
Kelleyb4947

I'd happily buy an xbox 720 for over $400.. it's well worth it. Even if you have to buy a new one in two year. That's only $200 a year. That's $4 out of each paycheck. I just wish Halo 4 was on the next gen :( 

superfakerbros
superfakerbros

The 720 has my interest. If Microsoft can follow through w/ some interesting exclusives, I'll definitely pick it up, along with a Wii-U.

Spartan_1004
Spartan_1004

Why wouldn't Sony want to profit off xbox sales? Also I think Sony is just one of the companies that owns rights to blu ray. Sony getting money for every xbox sold sounds like a win.

holdentorana74
holdentorana74

Lets be real here people.Why would Sony sell their Blu-ray players or lend their rights to M$?If, as everyone seems to think, M$ is dominating the gaming world, why in the heck would Sony want to allow another company, already "dominating", to get even greater with their product?In all seriousness, the only thing that could possibly be updated in any next-gen console, is the Kinect (like in this post), even FASTER wireless connection for better online, or if somehow an even BIGGER, BETTER and more ACCESSIBLE way of gaming is introduced, otherwise, this is all just junk material to get your attention.

Philly1UPer
Philly1UPer

lol...totally fake. Micorsoft selling a brand new console with Kinect 2 for only 299$ and pretty much selling it at a loss? Microsoft and Sonys new consoles are going to be at least 400$

jtthegame316
jtthegame316

erm more rumour and hear say about a console that don't exsist yet.

Hark-Dog
Hark-Dog

Does this mean it will retail in England for £190?

KingofCabal
KingofCabal

Alot of: it will do this and it will do that, seeing is believing. Kinect was supposed to be this wonderful new way of interacting but turned out to be very disapointing in the end. also $299? yeah right.

mtnjak
mtnjak

Sounds good.  I wonder what Sony will come out with to crush it's competition?

bochog3
bochog3

Nah i don't think its gonna hit shelves next year i suspect that is gonna be announced on E3 next year and at least launched on winter 2014, and how they did with the 360 they are gonna do with "720" a cheaper price for a non kinect bundle lets say 299$ and the one with kinect 2 399$

x-TwilighT-x
x-TwilighT-x

With all of the thing's it's supposedly "Coming with" I doubt for a price of 299$. Although I wouldn't call Microsoft "Greedy" either. Years back Microsoft was sued for giving things away too often. "Running a monopoly for giving away too much software with their products". Can't make em all happy.

pakhair
pakhair

I can believe everything but price point, Nah MS is too greedy won't expect less then 499$ and may be cheap version going for 349$

Blu-Fan-Boy
Blu-Fan-Boy

if they change that doller sign to a pound symbol that console will be so cheap on release

Armyboy5
Armyboy5

Somehow I see X720 as Radeon and PS3 as Nvidia...

Thereisnotri
Thereisnotri

Why are people surprised at the price?  You could build a rig with the (ok the alleged) specs of the 720 for probably less than $200 now, let alone in a year or two.  When the 360 was released it was 3 years behind the pc, albeit probably competive on price in a packaged box.  Even if it's not, MS are smart enough to sell as a loss leader initially and then to recover over a long product life.  If they get the units out (and they will), they will beat Sony again.  The Playstation has always been more expensive and whilst it's theoretically more powerful, in the real world and in games (which is sort of the point) it isn't as good.

 

What Microsoft has done though, which is I think the real value of the 360 (and I'm a PC gamer for the record, but my son has a 360) is produce a seamless experience with XBox live.  XBox Live is what makes the 360 a great product.  Only Steam comes close on the PC, and it's not as good as XBox live.  MS integrated voice chat into the console experience and it was a game changer.  They were also the first to have digital content and other services.  Samsung and Sony have copied the product with their smart tv's and the tv's are still catching up

VilandasUK
VilandasUK

You got to be kidding, so after another 3 years what a new Xbox???

Slagar
Slagar

Hmmmm. While it will be worth not getting caught up in rumours/fantasy, I'm expecting Microsoft's next console to be nothing short of impressive. Microsoft pushed really hard when the 360 came out - the price and technology were insane for the time - so it wouldn't surprise me if they do the same this time to really seal their name on the market. They know launching a new console is a big thing, and the 360 showed they're willing to go all out.

TrueGB
TrueGB

 @rohn13 Given MS' history, it's more likely they will create their own Blu-ray drive and allow it to read Blu-ray discs. When Sony inevitably sues, MS will fight back, not necessarily win, and keep on selling the product.

TrueGB
TrueGB

 @gamez1122 They sort of did with their tablets. They have already said it's more powerful than any gaming console out there. Not sure about that, but that's what they said.

rohn13
rohn13

 @gamez1122 

Because they rely on others to invent their tech.  They just repackage it with metrosexual styling and slick ad campaigns.  You need an actual functioning R&D department to develop your own console.

FLOWZMENTAL
FLOWZMENTAL

@Spartan_1004 If I remember correctly Sony doesn't any rights to blu-ray technology.

gq_cjc
gq_cjc

 @Spartan_1004 They can't get any money off of it. Sony didn't invent blu ray. SMH

gq_cjc
gq_cjc

 @holdentorana74 Sony didn't invent the blu ray. They are just one of many companies that designed it. They don't really have and say so over what company can or can't use the hardware. And no they won't make any money from MS for it either. 

oscar92
oscar92

 @Philly1UPer Gaming companies always take a loss when selling consoles. They make their $$$ selling games that cost 50 cents to make for $60 

thegash35
thegash35

 @Philly1UPer Every console is sold at a loss during the initial cycle.  When the 360 launched Microsoft lost about $130 per console.

KingofCabal
KingofCabal

 @mtnjak I dont think sony's coming up with much at the moment seeing as they haven't made any profit in about 5 years....

KingofCabal
KingofCabal

 @alhussainnaseer well I also love my x-box but I dont agree. My Super nintendo gave me a much warmer fuzzier feeling.

x-TwilighT-x
x-TwilighT-x

 @Thereisnotri True, this is basically what Nintendo did to sell the crap out of Wii's. Hard to beat a 60$ game with a controller. Obviously they were losing money, but gaining sales out the wazoo.

SPuDl
SPuDl

 @VilandasUK Its been at least 6 years... and the lifespan gets longer with new generations so your probably looking at 10 years and after that you probably won't need to buy a console because everything will be online, happy now?

Shaun373
Shaun373

 @gq_cjc You can shake your head all you want but Sony did invent Blu Ray and Microsoft would have to pay a licensing fee to the Blu Ray Association which is the progeny of the Blu Ray Founders, of which Sony is the lead company since they invented UDO (now dead tech) and DVR Blue, which evolved into Blu Ray Disc with the assistance of the Founders and eventually the Association. 

 

The Association gets a licensing fee from Microsoft and Sony gets the majority cut from the Association. 

Philly1UPer
Philly1UPer

 @KingofCabal People like you are morons.

 

 

Sony is good money wise for a long time. I mean, they did pretty much invent the Walkman and CD player along with innovating CDs in general, which lead to them dominating the music market for atleast 18 years. 

mtnjak
mtnjak

Although, it appears that a company doesn't necessarily need a profitable console to be in the industry.  The games themselves have helped companies stay in business.   Look at all the profit in the COD series alone.