Valve Steam Box reported to run on Linux, due 2013 - Report

Valve engineer teases more hardware surprises for 2013.

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Valve's custom set-top Steam Box will use Linux as its operating system, according to a Valve employee. Speaking at the recent Exceptionally Hard & Soft Meeting 2012 conference in Berlin, Valve engineer Ben Krasnow stated that the company's long-awaited Steam Box will run on Linux.

Krasnow's statements were reported by German tech blog Golem.de, with suggestions that the oft-rumoured Steam Box is not the only hardware project Valve is working on for 2013.

Valve has been actively working on developing Steam for Linux for the last few months, with the public client now supporting 41 games, including Team Fortress 2.

Valve director Gabe Newell has criticised Microsoft's latest version of its operating system, Windows 8, in the past, notably dubbing it a "catastrophe" in June 2012.

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PetJel
PetJel

Wii-U

Steambox

Project Shield (Nvidia streaming device)

Ouya

and in a year or two the ps4 and next xbox.

 

Make your choice.

Live or Die.

FandomTheory
FandomTheory

This is actually a very, very smart move.

 

And hey, if those 41 games aren't enough for you, you can always make your own Windows-based "Steam Box" and run Big Picture on it.

buccomatic
buccomatic

if they can get every game to run on it microsoft is dead.

 

YEAH BABY YEAH!

 

:)

denny33142
denny33142

Xbox360, PS3, Wii, Wii U, PC, SteamBox, PSVita, 3DS, Nvidia Console.

 

The last time we had this many consoles we had a Video Game Crash, Oversaturation is never a good thing.

Mr_BillGates
Mr_BillGates

First step to abandon the dying PC gaming. Smart move. Valve consolization begins 2013.

alpha_unit97
alpha_unit97

I'm so confused as to what's going to happen with next-gen consoles :S tempted to just upgrade my PC and be safe, will have to wait and see at E3 though! 

Kane04
Kane04

Really looking forward to see this, specially after they said the PS3 was no good.

rgli
rgli

Are as many people ad dumb as the Big Rich people believe!  Reading the posts here, I am starting to agree with the Rich People!

 

Get this in your head - general public!  Ain't nobody doing ^%&$ for fun!  Companies are in business to get your hard earned Dollar, Period!

 

There will always be operating systems, and we need more than just one!  If every one jumped ship and went to Linux, then one day Linux can wake up with a swollen head (or a hard on - LOL) and say ok, now we are going to demand....  Licenses.   They will make you want it to, they will fake or have some type of tragedy occur, then say that Licensing is needed to weed out the unjust!

 

Look at how we have the Birth of Uplay, Origin, Steam, App Store, PSN, Nintendo Store, MS Store... etc, etc, etc...  All these big companies have the same thing in Mind, they want you to spend the majority of the gaming or entertainment dollars you do spend filling there pockets so that they can Live Their Dreams!

 

So to talk so bad about Microsoft, Or iOS, or Android is just as dumb as talking bad about the other!  Get what you want because it is what you want and fits your lifestyle and your wallet!

 

iOS wants Microsoft's revenue, Microsoft Wants iOS revenue, Steam Wants Googles revenue, etc, etc, etc... Just good ole Greed!  To think any of them really care about "US" is crazy, they only care about getting "US" money!  That is always the motive! 

Stebsis
Stebsis

I don't think there should be any steam box. Just buy a PC that's superior and in the long run most likely cheaper too. I myself prefer consoles, though I have pretty nice PC, but that's because consoles just have more games that I like. I don't really see there being any exclusive games made by companies like Konami or Square-Enix on steam box. Steam also has the big picture mode and controller support on games that also are on consoles. I just see no way this thing making money because it seems like this steam box is capable of playing, and only has, the same games that you can buy from steam, so why not just get a PC for them? For one it certainly can't run games like PC, if it does then it's also going to cost like a PC. And it's not upgadeable, and if it is, why not just buy a PC then? I just see no way this making any real money.

aldronlin
aldronlin

 @PetJel PC and PS3 as always.  other system has great titles too, but those 2 already got enough games to fill up my time

thequickshooter
thequickshooter

 @PetJel i'ed rather wait for the next xbox or PS4 

cause consoles are always cheaper then to invest in a 1000$ computer (and lets not forget the gear too) 

 

and plus, console exclusives, enough said. (sure pc has exlusives but the best of them get ported to the 360 so yeah, no so exclusive besides RTS games)

Hurvl
Hurvl

 @PetJel I'll go with PC, like I have always done :D.

fillup0
fillup0

Valve makes many more things than HL, and NOBODY in the world thinks that Valve has made Microsoft successful in any way. Get outta here kid.

G-Man4ever
G-Man4ever

 @buccomatic tha' fuck !?! what has this got anything to do with microsoft ? in the best scenario it wil take a share of xbox's market. but far from taking it all out. PC's fill for ever run Windows and the large majority of gamers - at least the real gamers - will always be PC dependent. You don't need a mayan calendar to predict that.

fillup0
fillup0

I've been thinking this for a long time. Think about the declining quality of games too, I think you might be right.

WolfGrey
WolfGrey

 @Mr_BillGates Oh and fyi the Steam box IS A PC, just a mini version to help with people who can't afford rigs or doesn't have the know how.

 

If anything PC gaming will boom with it.

WolfGrey
WolfGrey

 @Mr_BillGates Obviously someone is an idiot.

 

FYI Steam has over 60 million concurrent users.Thats how many is logged on at a time btw.

 

And that is just steam users, pc has more gamers than ALL consoles do on their own and rightly so.

Jebril
Jebril

 @rgli No and no, Linux will never have licenses the way it was designed, created and updated could only be done openly. It's been a collaboration up until this point and one of the biggest factors behind it was how 'open' it was. If I recall correctly Bill Gates was one of the first few programmers that strayed from the idea that software was to be free and began the trend of closing down software and keeping it proprietary. 

fillup0
fillup0

This isn't made to appeal to you.

 

It's okay, you can still think it's a wonderful thing but not buy it. Like myself with smartphones.

solidzombie
solidzombie

 @Stebsis Its for the noobs who can't build their own gaming PC. They are applying that Apple strategy of less amount of choice and ease of use sort of thing. I'm an electronics person but I haven't built a PC myself since its seems very cumbersome and annoying. I will probably get this if most of the console games will be ported on here, which is quite probable. Also, LINUX FTW!! 

JunglemanchiId
JunglemanchiId

 @thequickshooter  @PetJel - Cheaper to invest in because they are out of date when they hit the market.  Games look and perform better on PC and you certainly dont need to spend as much as $1000 to notice this. 

puukusa
puukusa

 @Hurvl  @PetJel I'm a PC gamer myself, but got myself PS3 to play rocksmith. I don't play rocksmith much, but inFamous and Uncharted made PS3 a good buy.

buccomatic
buccomatic

 @G-Man4ever microsoft won't have anything left to install their operating system on (in the very near future) = microsoft is going out of business.

nu1mlock
nu1mlock

 @WolfGrey  @Mr_BillGates Actually, Steam has over 60 million registered users with peak concurrent users at around 6 million.That being said, PC gaming is not dying.

Jinzo_111887
Jinzo_111887

@Jebril@rgliYou're right, plus there are plenty of versions of Linux designed for different purposes.

 Linux is open source. This means that people can make their own versions of it. There's Linux Mint, Puppy Linux, Puppy Arcade, Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Debian, PCLinux, PearLinux, Solaris, Peppermint, Open Suze, Red Hat Linux, Archlinux, Fedora, and plenty more. There's enough to choke a horse.

 

That being said, people could just switch from one version of Linux to another. However, the thing to note is that each version of Linux is different. Puppy Linux is designed to be powerful, yet small. Puppy Arcade is like Puppy Linux, but for gaming. Linux Mint and Ubuntu are designed to be more user friendly, etc.

 

Also, about Windows... Keep an eye out for an open source equivalent called ReactOS.

Stebsis
Stebsis

 @solidzombie I'm a noob, I didn't know shit about any parts or how to build a PC and that's why asked from people who can through some forums, and they gave me a list of parts I should get, and I build it reading instructions. Took me about almost an hour to put everything together when I had the parts, it was easy, little fun actually and alltogether didn't even cost that much

thequickshooter
thequickshooter

 @deadkingdg  @JunglemanchiId  @PetJel actually the elite xbox from 2008 looked better then the regualer white xbox

 

and the slim has a little better graphics (due to newer meterials and new stuff) 

 

same as the fat ps3 and the old ps3 

better meterials but same tech

deadkingdg
deadkingdg

 @JunglemanchiId  @thequickshooter  @PetJel But they still run the same hardware. All the improvements on the machine are things like reduced heating and reduced energy cost. Every X360 would give you the same graphics. The games just make better use of the machine, that's all.

JunglemanchiId
JunglemanchiId

 @deadkingdg  @thequickshooter  @PetJel - That's like saying xbox 360 games from 2005 are the same as xbox 360 games from 2012.  That isnt the case at all.  Call of Duty 2 and Quake IV for example.  The xbox improved each year but peaked a couple of years ago. 

deadkingdg
deadkingdg

 @thequickshooter  @JunglemanchiId  @PetJel And the X360 was released in 2005. Just try to find a PC from 2005 for less than 500$ that can play games like the Witcher you just posted. My 1000$ PC from 2008-2009 can play all of today's games, but not at the highest settings, mostly similar to consoles.

JunglemanchiId
JunglemanchiId

 @thequickshooter  @PetJel - I didn't buy , I built.  If someone wants a good gaming PC but don't want to pay a fortune then they need to learn how to build it themselves.  The PC I build for around £550 costs about 3-400 more in any shop, no question about that.  Anyone who buys a gaming PC pre built for over £1000 has too much money to spend.  825 dollars then, for a PC I use for gaming, movies, work, education and recording music.  All of it through a nice monitor or through my TV, can use controllers or mouse and keyboard.  I am NOT saying that consoles suck and PCs are ftw because I have owned about 20 consoles in my life but what I was originally replying to you over was the popular idea that PC gaming is too expensive and its just as good an experience on a console for a fraction of the price.  I don't believe it is.

Hurvl
Hurvl

 @thequickshooter  @JunglemanchiId  @PetJel Oh, the eternal back and forth argument about whether PC's are too expensive. If you want everything to run on maximum settings after 3-5 years, then you might have to upgrade, but I've never been that type. Running things on High instead of Ultra after 3-4 years is good enough for most people and you don't need an expensive computer to achieve that. Me, I have a serious backlog and haven't touched most modern games so running games on maximum is a non-issue for me.

thequickshooter
thequickshooter

 @JunglemanchiId  @thequickshooter  @PetJel i meant in 2008 the xbox was 250-300 cause the elite slim was close to release in 2009

and a pound is 1.5 worth of every dollar so it's 

825 dollars 

 

and did you bought it in 2008 or it's last year?

JunglemanchiId
JunglemanchiId

@thequickshooter @PetJel sorry but no. You have no idea obviously. My pc cost 550 pounds built myself and has no problems and yes can go into my big tv too...why couldnt it? Stick to inferior consoles. Also 250 for ps4 etc.....dream on.

thequickshooter
thequickshooter

 @JunglemanchiId  @PetJel that's bullshit!

lets say in 2008 you bought a 1000$ computer (that includes screen, gaming mouse, keyboard, mouse pad.)

 

after 4 years a that same gear  cannot run a game like the witcher 2 on maximum (or atleast with slight lag)

and every bunch of year you gotta get a new rig 

OR buy a 250$ console with controller and everything (besides a proper mic) hook it into you living room big ass LCD and enjoy

 

and watch this comperison 

of the witcher 2 xbox vs pc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDQbJ6oQznw

deadkingdg
deadkingdg

 @buccomatic  @G-Man4ever Yeah, cause I'm totally going to work on a game machine. Face it, the vast majority of computers in the world are used for work, not gaming, and most of them run on Windows. And more and more jobs are getting done (or helped with) computers, so Microsoft isn't going to die any time soon.

fillup0
fillup0

>implying that the next xbox won't be successful

>implying microsoft only do videogames

>implying the steam box will be anything like the xbox

Thereisnotri
Thereisnotri

 @Jinzo_111887  @Jebril  @rgli

 You're both right about Linux and open source, but wrong about MS.  All software was proprietary before MS because all software was written for different types of hardware, which were inherently proprietary.  There was no open source software because sotware by and large wouldn't run on different hardware.  The reason MS became by far the biggest was because they jumped on IBM's revolution of the PC.  IBM made the PC effectively an open source hardware platform because anybody could build a PC (which is just a computer based on an x86 architecture).  Software designed to run on x86 architecture should run on any PC (bar conflicts caused by other peripheral hardware).  Genuinely open source software was only possible when there were standards for hardware so that it is possible to write software for one machine that will also work on another.  Without both IBM making the hardware open source (by allowing other people to build PC's, unlike Apple) and MS providing an OS (ripped off or otherwise) that made PC's relatively user friendly) Linux and other open source systems wouldn't exist (at least in their current form) because the x86 architecture may not have become the dominant hardware.

rgli
rgli

 @solidzombie  @Stebsis Exactly!  Just the point that we are on this site talking about this makes us above the average Tech Level of most people!  So people that are not already will only care about, is it easy, can I play the games I want, and is it cost effective!  Those of us that already have OS preferences and so forth are going to do what we do anyway!

solidzombie
solidzombie

 @Stebsis Ye, but look at an average person. They are not going to bother with all that stuff no matter how long it takes. They just want to pop the disc in and have the game work. Which is why I am a console person, so much less headache and stress.