Valve engineer creates controller for your tongue and butt

Ben Krasnow publishes videos showing off his recent controller inventions; posterior controller may be tied into Valve's VR efforts, he says.

Valve engineer Ben Krasnow has created two new controllers, and they are far from traditional. One is controlled using your tongue, and the other through your posterior.

The tongue controller is described as a mouse that you control with the tip of your tongue.

It features a plastic, retainer-like housing that sticks to the top of your mouth. Moving your tongue across the sensor is just like moving your finger across the sensor of an optical mouse, he said. A wireless version would remove the need for wires to enter your mouth.

For precise x/y movements like cursor control on a screen, the tongue controller is probably not the best idea, Krasnow said. In the video, he demonstrates how the controller works playing FPS game Borderlands 2, and it does not go well. However, he said more practical applications could include using the tongue controller for swipe interfaces, carousel menus, and simple yes/no inputs.

As for the butt controller, this works by using ordinary bathroom scales. You sit on the controller and how you shift your weight and turn your body controls how a character in a game moves. Putting more weight on the front of the input makes the character move forward, while increasing pressure on the backside of the controller leads the character backwards.

Strafing from side-to-side also works. However, turning more than 180 degrees is impossible on the current iteration of the controller without also using a mouse, Krasnow said. In this video, he demonstrates how the input works for Borderlands 2, noting that while keyboard and mouse controls remain the best option for precision, the butt controller may be a viable option in some scenarios.

"One, it frees up your hand to do something else; to interact with the environment," he said.

Second, this type of controller works better for virtual reality, Krasnow said. He teased that this input may tie into the VR work he is currently doing at Valve. Check out the videos below for more on the controllers and the work that went into creating them.

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182 comments
aussiemuscle
aussiemuscle

so the line from Back to the Future 2 is valid. Marty shows them how to play 'Wild Gunman' and the kid replies "You mean you have to use your hands? that's like a baby's toy!"

Faye_Tallity
Faye_Tallity

You won't want to share controllers.... 

jark888
jark888

These could be the perfect fit for VR AO rating game.

Sadek
Sadek

So passing gas while sitting equals to throwing a grenade?!

MasterTheHero
MasterTheHero

This could be useful for quadriplegics, and I think that's the idea.

Aaronp2k
Aaronp2k

lol anyone seen using this would look like they were having a seizure whilst looking like they are going to shit their pants. I will stick to gamepad and kb/m thank you.

Zloth2
Zloth2

Sure is cold for April 1...

hadlee73
hadlee73

I can't wait for the future interview with Christopher Walken explaining where he's been using his primary controller.

tsunami2311
tsunami2311

um no, just no, Might be usefull for people that cant move. but other then that just no.


Another case of we made it cause we could no mater if it stupid? guess that would depend on who you ask

Takeno456
Takeno456

I don't want to think about Gabe using these things.

MrHanky35
MrHanky35

1) hopefully they are not interchangeable

2) hopefully they wont have a rumble feature

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All I can think about when I hear this is Mr. Garrison's "it" transportation..

MAD_AI
MAD_AI

This would be a great benefit for paraplegic or disabled people with an interest in gaming, I don't see anyone taking the initiative and if being mocked by idiots on the internet is the price to pay then so be it.  It's either this or sticking electrodes down your brains.

gatsbythepig
gatsbythepig

 Now all they need is a Vugina(had to misspell or gs will erase) and Poenis(again, is there something wrong with anatomy gs) and they can make a full on sex game.

After all, once breathing, drinking, eating and sleeping have been sated, the only biological reason we are alive is to reproduce.  Sex games are the future, anyone that disagrees is lying to themselves.

Ultramarinus
Ultramarinus

I'm curious how the Japanese might find 'interesting' ways to make use of these controllers, after seeing their earlier work with Oculus Rift.

Jaxith
Jaxith

Sometimes, it's the weird and conventionally impractical technology that moves things forward.  Stuff like this might not have much value for most of us, but I can't help but think it's important to try out unconventional technology.  Not everyone is fortunate enough to have the use of both arms, and putting forth the effort to design something unconventional may ultimately lead to a bit more comfort for those more unfortunate than others.

I'm not necessarily saying that either of these control methods are going to be of much practical use to anyone, but the designs and technology used for them might be.  Something strange and outlandish may yet lead to future advancements that happen to be more appealing.  Technology is always moving forward, and even tiny, uncertain steps have value to progress.

NTM23
NTM23

Yep, at first I was feeling kind of negative about this, believe it's a joke and a waste of time and money, like the guy had nothing better to do with his time, but when people mention it could be for disabled, I can see the benefits.

blueknight1st
blueknight1st

Can we please stop with all the stupid VR crap and stupid 3D for movies too?

Fanible
Fanible

"A wireless version would remove the need for wires..."

Thank goodness for that clarification.

gam3r80
gam3r80

Gabe has some weird fetishes man 

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

What the fuck is wrong with people?

Surely you have better things to spend your billions on Valve? Like Half Life 3 maybe?

JimmeyBurrows
JimmeyBurrows

I came into the article thinking "Sticking a controller up your arse is disgusting" but I'm leaving thinking "the tongue controller is a horrible idea..." I had a retainer for a while, they aren't nice to have in your mouth.

spikepigeo
spikepigeo

Wonder if the controller will come bundled with hemorrhoid cream. 

wookiegr
wookiegr

They will need a drool and slobber proof keyboard and PC if they expect people to use their mouths and asses to play games.

finalkain
finalkain

When I look forward to all the great things the future holds in store, a controller up my ass isnt one of them....

olddadgamer
olddadgamer

Remember when Valve made games?  Before all the weird hardware?  Before the games they put out were greenlight and mods?  


Those were good days.

berserker66666
berserker66666

I can think of a more suitable use for the tongue ;p.

wookiegr
wookiegr

Wait, is Valve working on the tea-bagging peripheral yet?

Penguinlord1
Penguinlord1

Can already imagine all the delicious hentai! :D ~<==3 <3 God, I'm perverted, and hopeless..maybe one day, one day I shall feel the sweat caress of a real boob...

RicanV
RicanV moderator

@Dannystaples14 I thought this would be useless but then people pointed out that it could be beneficial for people with disabilities. 

Aaronp2k
Aaronp2k

@JimmeyBurrows Good training if you plan on going down on a girl whilst wearing braces though. might be a sick fantasy the girl is into.

gatsbythepig
gatsbythepig

@ZombieGuyGeorge @gatsbythepig Let other people test the products first.  Look how far plastic surgery and hair plugs has gone.  In the early days, anyone with plastic surgery looked frightened all the time.  Hair plugs looked like ant legs poking out of people's heads, now it's almost acceptable.

Aaronp2k
Aaronp2k

@Penguinlord1 just go to amsterdam man and you'll get a lot more than that for 40 euros haha.

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@RicanV Hmm yeah I'd rather wait for neural implants to be honest. Despite the fact I'll probably be dead when they finally become a thing.

I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't get Silicon poisoning from this after a while.

ZombieGuyGeorge
ZombieGuyGeorge

@gatsbythepig @ZombieGuyGeorge i've never played sports games in consoles, i rather phone my friends and go to a park to play. nothing beats real adrenalin and real bruises. same with sex. nothing beats real sex. bruises included.

Penguinlord1
Penguinlord1

Hohoho, I see what you did there. Well played sir, well played.

Thanatos2k
Thanatos2k

The 3DS has shown us it's pretty worthless, and gives you a headache.

Aaronp2k
Aaronp2k

@NTM23 @JLCrogue I think being fat is a mental disability. You have to be mental to let yourself go like that. A guy in my area went into a pub and bought 2 main courses and a huge ice cream (intended for 2 people to share) all on his own. I am not even sure if he got a starter because I entered the pub whilst he was eating his first course. He also breaths really heavy, like every second he is not lying down all the weight he is holding up is exhausting him. and I ask myself "when do people draw a line and decide enough is enough and to cut down on their eating".

NTM23
NTM23

@JLCrogue Except most of the people that actually use those parkings are just fat and have no real disability.