Syndicate reboot gets the boot Down Under

UPDATE: EA's first-person game reboot gets refused classification in Australia due to high impact violence.

The introduction of an adult rating for games in Australia--which is slated to be introduced sometime in 2012--will come too late for EA's new take on the Syndicate franchise. The game has been refused classification by the Australian Classification Board, meaning it's illegal to sell or market it in the country.

Perhaps the Classification Board needs to be introduced to EA's Persuadertron.

A listing on the Classification Board website has confirmed the banning, but EA has not yet officially commented on the situation. GameSpot AU has also reached out to the board to obtain more detail on the banning.

While exact details on why the game was banned are not known, Syndicate did feature scenes of tense violence, including an ability to take over enemy minds and force them to commit suicide.

GameSpot AU will have more details on the Syndicate ban as more information comes to light.

UPDATE: The Classification Board has now released its decision report into Syndicate, which states that the game was indeed refused classification because of its high impact violence.

In its report, the Board cited several examples of high impact violence, including the fact that "combatants can take locational damage an can be explicitly dismembered, decapitated, or bisected by the force of the gunfire. The depictions are accompanied by copious bloodspray and injuries are shown realistically and with detail. Flesh and bone are often exposed while arterial sprays of blood continue to spurt from wounds at regular intervals."

"The game also allows a player to repeatedly damage enemy combatants' corpses. For example, it is possible for a player to decapitate a corpse with a headshot before individually blowing off each of its limbs."

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92 comments
Massacher
Massacher

this is so dumb. Soldier of Fortune and Soldier of Fortune 2 did this back in the day. and it wasn't refused classification. it doesn't mean much anyway as you can always import. classifications don't mean nothing. the classification board think they have power but they really don't as if someone really wants a game they will find a way to get it.

Landsharkk
Landsharkk

This isn't syndicate, this is a FPS knock-off. The real syndicate is a top-down real-time strategy game with some RPG mixed in, which was awesome.

bezza2011
bezza2011

it's a shame i will truly never like this game anyway, as it should of been called something else, or a side adventure of syndicate or something and not nick it's title and call it a sequel when it blatently isn't!!

bezza2011
bezza2011

chopper was crazy violent, it pretty much glorified violence and they still ban video games hahahahahaha, they must think people will take more notice of games or something because there so more realistic than a film best on a true story lol

eoin
eoin

The country that gave us Chopper and Romper Stomper only has a problem when its computer generated characters getting mutilated? Oh No no no! Iam definitely intrigued. Love original syndicate and while I think the FPS genre is FLOODED, the next syndicate game had as much chance of being isometric as Fallout 3 did, after the creators sold the rights.

S_Pac_316
S_Pac_316

Wow, I thought we(Americans) had it bad...Australians sure have a ignorant and squeamish government...

DeathwachMarine
DeathwachMarine

"combatants can take locational damage an can be explicitly dismembered, decapitated, or bisected by the force of the gunfire. The depictions are accompanied by copious bloodspray and injuries are shown realistically and with detail. Flesh and bone are often exposed while arterial sprays of blood continue to spurt from wounds at regular intervals." I'm sold lol. This is a good looking game, and sucks that its getting the boot over there

Moegitto
Moegitto

"The game also allows a player to repeatedly damage enemy combatants' corpses. For example, it is possible for a player to decapitate a corpse with a headshot before individually blowing off each of its limbs." I did this in Fallout 3 once I got the Bloody mess perk, and that game sold millions...

00J
00J

One more thing, i don't really understand why games always get bad raps, when we see earthquakes and exploding bombs on T.V. readily... Most games you pay $60 for are toned down, washed down versions of the original concept. Yet the price still remains $60... That doe not seem to calculate... If the game gets toned down "reduced" in impact i think the price should also be restructured also. So if Syndicate's initial concept gives it a price point of $60 and a AAA rating then every time something gets reduced in impact or re-visioned the price should also be reduced...

00J
00J

They just sold this game for me, i don't know about anyone else...

Brokenhope69
Brokenhope69

@skeleme Me and plenty others. Syndicate will be one of the top games for 2012. Alreadygot this and Binary Domain pre-ordered. Long live Cyberpunk!

Reven116
Reven116

So, what's the difference between this, and Dead Island which was allowed classification?

Ultimate39
Ultimate39

@Skul_ They don't. Developers send footage of the game before it is finished, so they know what they'll have to edit for the game to be acceptable. Plus, the game is going to be REALLY glitched at that point (Imagine them playing Skyrim months before it comes out).

skeleme
skeleme

Why would anyone wanna play EA's crappy rip-offs anyway?

selbie
selbie

R18 didn't come soon enough :(

C2BARBARIAN
C2BARBARIAN

@robertwarnes91 Uh, because In God We Trust are on coins in the US, does not mean that the government are a bunch of religious zealots like in Australia.That along with the designs on the coins were started a century ago when most people were religious during that time, and it was not changed on coins to not have things complicated with changes these days. That is a pretty stupid backup on the government in the US compared to the one in Australia.Since you was saying all these certain things, I was just bringing up facts.To make yourself feel better about the censoring of video games in Australia you keep on saying ridiculous things.

robertwarnes91
robertwarnes91

@Hatemachine25 Naw, no worries man. Just a discussion. :)

Hatemachine25
Hatemachine25

@robertwarnes91 Meant no disrespect, nor did I see it as "Bashing" your country, more akin to bashing my own as I recall, but it indeed was done under idiot reasons and no small amount of frustration at this B.S of state censored materials no matter the country. So just for the Record no Bashing intended. Just another idiot pissing into the wind, as usual for the internet.

robertwarnes91
robertwarnes91

@C2BARBARIAN As in hint I meant a "tiny amount" "brief" "few seconds". That's the problem with the English language, the multiple meanings and context of each word. But as I said in my second post, classification in Australia doesn't consider buttoms or bikinis to be nudity. So sorry for the confusion. The gaming classification problem in Australia stems from the absense of a R18+ rating in gaming, which will be introduced next year. Once it's introduced Australia's gaming classification will be no stricter or lenity than America. But how can you say Australia is run by Christian lobbies and America isn't, when your coins have "In God We Trust" written on them, while our coins have no religious symbols. In fact the chruch parties of Australia are in favour of the R18+. Read this if you don't believe me. http://www.parra.catholic.org.au/news---events/latest-news/latest-news.aspx/catholic-church-welcomes-draft-r18--computer-games-guidelines.aspx My original comment was aimed at a comment made by an American (not you) who was wrongfully bashing my nation. I don't just boast about how great my country is at the drop of the hat. No country is perfect, but there will always be a pissing contest no mater where you are.

C2BARBARIAN
C2BARBARIAN

@robertwarnes91 At first you say that America gives the 18 rating to films for a hint of nudity, and now you change it to full frontal and genetals.Can't you make up your mind already?When it came to your first comment that I replied to, I got a sense that you are trying to make yourself feel better because you live in Australia, now I really see that you are in this 2nd comment that I am replying to. You say that America is scared and overprotected, yet in Australia games keep on getting banned and censored, the government being run by a bunch of religious zealots, the government keep on listening to what the Australian Christian Lobby says while the government in America does not have time to listen to nonsense from people like that. If anything Australia is more scared and overprotective then America.Just thought that I would say that since you turned the subject around to this.You do not like to admit to being wrong, so you start turning things around and say all of this nonsense.

robertwarnes91
robertwarnes91

@Skul_ Most of the world's Classification boards usually don't play the game. Several new games come out each week and they don't have the time or the money to be playing every game to the completion. Usually the publisher submits a presentation of the game, showing it's basic structure and narrative. And any material that could be considered offensive or intense.

Soothsayer42
Soothsayer42

@Roots_Of_Rythm thats one epic picture! :D

Skul_
Skul_

@Gelugon_baat I would be surprised if the members of the classification board play video games in the first place.

robertwarnes91
robertwarnes91

@C2BARBARIAN Small bikinis and buttoms are not considered Nudity in Australia. I meant full frontal and gentials. We don't have that "partial nudity" description like you have in scared, over-protective America. If you Americans consider buttoms and bikinis nudity, how do most of you cope at the beach? Do you need throw sand in your eyes or something?

Kingnova3000
Kingnova3000

Don't play syndicate kiddies its far too gory, here entertain yourself with this Saw DVD box set instead, its a lot more wholesome

Roots_Of_Rhythm
Roots_Of_Rhythm

This is the first I've heard about a Syndicate reboot. FPS, huh? Big ****ing surprise there. Way to go, EA.

mattg90520
mattg90520

Ugh. Despite them making the effort to change their inadequate ratings system, they are still making stupid decisions like this

commando1992
commando1992

Honestly, there are worse games the Syndicate out there. And there are worse horror movies then any video game. But I'm guessing they're still legal.

Hatemachine25
Hatemachine25

I suppose my attempt at hyperbole was a bit over enthusiastic, and for that I admit a failing in my previous post, but after the most recent legislation being pushed through the United States Governmental facilities I am unwilling to put it past the flock of goobers to attempt to censor or inhibit my favored entertainment medium with harsh, Vague, and malicious means. So yeah sorry just a little Steam that impaired my cognitive thought process, please disregard, besides you folks eventually got the full version of L4D2 right?, and there's always the Mod community for the PC version, good luck to ya folks though, hope it works out.

Atheosis
Atheosis

Being rejected by Australia is usually a sign that a game is good oddly enough...

Cobretti1818
Cobretti1818

They should have banned it for being an insult to the original.

C2BARBARIAN
C2BARBARIAN

@robertwarnes91 You are wrong about every movie getting the 18 rating in America that has a hint of nudity, when I have seen several PG-13 movies that had bottoms exposed, females in small bikini's and stuff like that. America does not have 18 for movies, the highest is either an R rating or NC-17. Try doing more research before saying all of this.

Venom_Raptor
Venom_Raptor

How lame. "Extreme violence" - It's pixelated images, the graphics aren't THAT realistic. :roll: Thank god I'm in England

Lazy_Marine
Lazy_Marine

im moving to australia next year and its v sad to see this.

DrKill09
DrKill09

I thought Australia finally quit banning adult games? Guess I was wrong. :roll: Oh well, I guess the Australian government WANTS their citizens to pirate the game instead.

tanerb
tanerb

@blakckwingzero : same thing that makes US rate games with sexuality "adult rated" = ignorance

Hurvl
Hurvl

So you go overseas, download the game and go back? Or just download the game (legslly or illegally) and you're set? This "banned in one country, but not the rest of the world" thing doesn't seem waterproof to me, so why bother.

FoeCrusher
FoeCrusher

Doesnt change the fact that EA is going to produce a 4 hour single player game that has nothing to do with Syndicate but the name. Australians are lucky.

blackwingzero
blackwingzero

Wow. What in the world made them decide to do that?

robertwarnes91
robertwarnes91

@Hatemachine25 Did you forget that the ESRB told Tecmo to remove 2 mm of thigh from the Dead Or Alive Dimensions Boxart, because that 2 mm of thigh could potentially corrupt the minds of children. Did you forget that America instantly gives a 18+ rating to any film or that show that has only a hint of nudity. While Australia will let it pass with a PG rating. Australia is not a tough country when comes to censorship, in fact we are the most relaxed. It's just when they created the gaming rating system, they didn't introduce a R18+ rating system. Because they assume it would be a good way to govern intense marterial when gaming was still a kid's hobby in the 90s. But come mid 2012 that will all change and then look who will be laughing.

pszone
pszone

The goverment has no chance because games today with the rate same as movies so not real as the same. They been violence Since moive and video games. No no matter what pp should not sue the game because just a game and pp who copy and kill someone really need a life and brain check. That country need to change since that countroy still lifeing lalalala land.

robertwarnes91
robertwarnes91

Well I guess that sucks for people who want the game. What I find weird is my local GAME had a big promotion stand advertising Syndicate and accepting pre-orders. Which I can't wrap my head around. Why do so many retailers take pre-orders for a game that is yet to be classified? Because if it's banned, they need to refund all those pre-orders.

DeadPhoenix86
DeadPhoenix86

people always forget, its a game. its not real... unless you don't like blood or dismembering body parts. i assume there's always a option to turn it off. thank god i don't live in a country with such restricted rules. the thing is, they don't have 18+ on a box...

999realthings
999realthings

Import, like for any console games. I thought we got our R18 too.

NuclearPig
NuclearPig

@liuyang61 Cause all there other games got banned... :)

Vaultboy-101
Vaultboy-101

@madeerrin Tasmania was a penal colony, not the entire country. It's very annoying when people describe Australia as a land of people descended from convicts, it's not. The population is mostly descended from English and European settlers. But you also have to remember the British would send someone to prison for stealing a handkerchief back in those days.

Dumachum
Dumachum

It should be banned just for being another crappy casualized reboot and ruining what Syndicate used to be.