Star Wars: The Old Republic revealed

VIDEO EXCLUSIVE: After years of secrecy, LucasArts opens the book on its ambitious second PC MMORPG; BioWare's Ray Muzyka and Greg Zeschuk explain why it's a bigger project than all their previous projects put together.

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SAN FRANCISCO--Today at a flashy media event in San Francisco, LucasArts and BioWare announced development of the PC massively multiplayer online role-playing game Star Wars: The Old Republic. Though ostensibly suspenseful, the unveiling's thunder was stolen this past July by John Riccitiello, CEO of BioWare parent Electronic Arts. Speaking to a business-oriented magazine, the executive casually confirmed that, yes, BioWare was working on a massively multiplayer online role-playing game set in the Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic Universe.

However, Riccitiello's comments--which weren't officially corroborated until today--were unsurprising even then. Whispers of a KOTOR MMOG began back in March 2006, when BioWare opened a satellite studio dedicated solely to an unnamed massively multiplayer online role-playing project. Leading the new operation were James Ohlen, lead designer of the original KOTOR, and Richard Vogel, former vice president of product development at Sony Online Entertainment, developer of the only current LucasArts MMORPG, Star Wars Galaxies.

The fact the studio was in Austin, Texas--home of SOE's Austin shop, which is the developer of Galaxies--only heightened suspicions that the BioWare game was Star Wars-related. A year and a half later, speculation reached stratospheric levels when BioWare and LucasArts announced they were collaborating on a "next-generation entertainment product." Since the only joint ventures between the Edmonton, Alberta-based developer and the San Francisco, California-based publisher had been the two KOTOR games, it seemed likely the new project would be a follow-up of some kind.

Now that cat is officially out of the bag, as GameSpot sat down with the architects of the forthcoming MMORPG to find more about the The Old Republic. Lead designer Ohlen discussed what will set it apart from other MMORPGs, and its head writer Daniel Erickson explained how it will implement story in a way never seen before in the massively multiplayer space. LucasArts executive producer Tom Nichols talked about working with BioWare--and how SW:TOR will not be replacing Star Wars Galaxies. Finally, BioWare cofounders and EA vice presidents Greg Zeschuk and Ray Muzyka laid out the game's origins and ambitions--and why they wanted to get into the cutthroat MMORPG space in the first place.

The Jedi class will serve the battered Republic…

A not so long time ago, in a studio somewhat far away…
When Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic debuted in July 2003, it was an instant sensation. It sidestepped the controversy surrounding the Star Wars prequels by introducing a new era set 4,000 years prior that was packed with Jedi Knights and a whole army of their nemeses, the Sith. Using BioWare's trademark in-depth dialogue system, the game let player's choices in individual situations build up to a permanent alignment with either the Dark or the Light sides of The Force. At times, the dilemmas were deliciously agonizing, such as when, right at the game's climax, a player was forced to chose between killing an Obi-Wan Kenobi-esque father figure or a romantic interest made all the more tempting by the Dark Side.

Besides receiving critical accolades--including being named GameSpot's 2003 Role-playing Game of the Year--KOTOR went on to sell nearly 1.3 million units domestically on the original Xbox and over 500,000 units on the PC. Its success spurred a sequel, Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords, which sold more than 1.275 million units in the US on the Xbox (2004) and PC (2005). Developed by Obsidian Entertainment, the independent studio formed by some of the team behind the first two Fallout games, KOTOR II got solid marks from reviewers. However, it came under some criticism when it was discovered the game's story had been truncated to make a holiday release window.

Ironically, it was the tales that KOTOR II left untold which sparked development of The Old Republic. Not long after the PC edition of the sequel hit stores in 2005, BioWare approached LucasArts with a pitch for what would be their biggest collaboration yet.

"This project originated a couple years ago when BioWare spoke up and said, 'Hey, we'd love to do another project with you guys,'" explained Nichols. "We were thinking about working on new, additional projects in the online space, and Galaxies was three or four years old, and we started to look into the future about what we might want to do in the MMO genre. And I think the timing was pretty serendipitous that way, since BioWare wanted to work with us, they wanted to do an MMO, and they had a lot of experience playing MMOs. They wanted to bring some of their learning and aspects of their gameplay--namely storytelling--into MMOs, and we were looking to reapproach the genre with a major partner."

Muzyka was equally enthusiastic. "Doing an MMO is something we've wanted to do for probably over a decade," he said. "We wanted to wait until we had the right partners, the right team, and the right IP."

…while Sith serve the resurgent Empire.

Calling The Old Republic the "right" IP may be an understatement. EA said one of the main reasons it shelled out $860 million for BioWare/Pandemic was so it would co-own the then-unnamed MMORPG, touted as a competitor to Activision Blizzard's mega-successful World of Warcraft. Ironically, the EA purchase has allowed BioWare to collaborate with the developers of the fastest-growing MMORPG on the market. "We're actively consulting with EA Mythic and are huge fans of Warhammer Online," say Muzyka. "They've got lots of great technology and lots of great people and ideas. They're great people to talk to about making an awesome MMO experience, and we're definitely looking to them for inspiration."

KOTOR 3 MIA…WTF?
While the cash-minting potential of The Old Republic has executives salivating, many BioWare fans were disappointed the series didn't return to its single-player RPG roots. "There are a lot of reasons why we decided not to do KOTOR 3, and why we decided to do this as an MMO instead," said Nichols. "The unique aspect of storytelling, which is really differentiated for this game, is something the KOTOR franchise did very well, and we felt that just doing a single-player experience with a new KOTOR really misses the opportunity to take this out to a much wider audience."

"One of the things we like to joke about is just the sheer amount of content we're doing," Ohlen mused. "Our fans ask, 'Why aren't you doing Knights of the Old Republic 3?' What we're really doing is Knights of the Old Republic 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12-plus. We have that much content and that many stories…We really get to do a lot of things we really wouldn't get to do in [a] KOTOR 3."

Ohlen is in a unique position to make such an assessment. Described as "the most important guy at BioWare no one has ever heard of" by insiders, Ohlen has been a lead designer on virtually every game the studio has produced, including Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, and the original Knights of the Old Republic. Now, as lead designer of The Old Republic, he is overseeing what he isn't afraid to say is BioWare's most ambitious project ever.

Tython, the Jedi Homeworld, seems a pastoral place.

"The biggest challenge for this game is the sheer amount of content you have to create," boasted Ohlen. "This is a HUGE game. Just to give you an idea of how huge this game is, we were taking a look at it, and it has more story content than every single other BioWare game that's come before put together. That would mean Baldur's Gate, Baldur's Gate II, Neverwinter Nights, Neverwinter Nights II, Knights of the Old Republic, Knights of the Old Republic II, Mass Effect--and all the expansions." Currently, the Old Republic has 12 full-time staff writers who are "cranking out" content, some for as long as two years.

The Fourth Pillar
So what is the setting for this massive epic? The Old Republic takes place 300 years after the events of the original Knights of the Old Republic games, or about 3,600 years before the events of the films. While story elements from the first two games will "definitely play a role," much has changed since the end of KOTOR II. The old Sith Empire, which had been banished into deep space after nearly being exterminated by the Galactic Republic, has reemerged. Its return came in the form of a massive sneak attack by its huge fleet reminiscent of the Cylons' fiery return in Battlestar Galactica.

A brutal war ensued, which saw the Sith's elite armies conquer dozens of worlds in the Outer Rim and sack the Republic's capital planet Coruscant. Pacifist factions within the Republic forced the signing of a treaty, leading to a fragile peace across the galaxy. Those same factions blamed the Jedi for the Republic's drubbing by the Sith, forcing the relocation of the decimated Jedi Council from Coruscant to Tython, the Jedi's homeworld.

As the game begins, the interstellar Cold War is thawing, and players will find themselves at ground zero as a new conflict begins to flare up. "Players get to come in and take the roles of heroes--or villains--at this pivotal moment where we're starting to go back into a big galactic war," promised Erickson.

Korriban, the ancestral Sith world, is not so welcoming.

Like other MMOs, The Old Republic will have two factions--the Galactic Republic and the Sith Empire. Though led by respectively benevolent and malevolent leaders, the two sides will be home to characters of morally varying stripes. "There's a lot more people than Sith and Jedi in the Empire and the Republic, so one of the things that became important to us is that we separate the idea of faction and good and evil," said Erickson. "Light Side and Dark Side is not the same as faction. In the original KOTOR, you could be Dark Side, even though you worked for the Republic. Here, just because you're in the Empire [faction], doesn't mean you have be Dark Side. You can play as the good guy in the bad place trying to do good things or the bad guy in the good place trying to do bad things."

Indeed, BioWare went to great lengths to make the ostensible villains sympathetic, going into the LucasFilm and LucasArts archives and researching the Great Hyperspace War for background on the Sith. "The Sith were literally chased out of the galaxy by the Jedi," explained Erickson. "You had an entire culture and people who were pushed out of known space. So you get these guys who come back and have a big chip on their shoulder. So if you're playing on their side as a good guy, you're not going to just go run over to the Republic, because the Republic tried to wipe out your entire people."

Erickson hopes such background will make the Sith Empire more compelling than the evil factions of other MMORPGs. "These [Imperials] are actual people," he said. "They don't get up in the morning and say, 'What can we do that's evil today?' They have to have a legitimate point of view. You have to believe when you're playing that the things you're doing make sense and be proud of where you are. "

Nichols agreed that having strong dramatic underpinning is what will set the Old Republic apart from competitors such as World of Warcraft. "What's really missing [in other MMOs] is context--why you're doing all these missions, why you're on this quest, why you're out killing 10 wolves," he asserted. "So story puts that in the context, and gives you a much more immersive experience where you're really building a stronger relationship with your online character than you would without it."

These Tython mining droids don't like trespassers. Not one bit.

However, don't get the idea that BioWare and LucasArts aren't respectful of what MMOs like WOW have accomplished. "We're huge fans of MMOs and have played just pretty much everything else out there," said Muzkya. "We really appreciate the things that make great MMOs great. There's great exploration, there's combat, there's [character] customization and progression. The Old Republic has all those things. It's got those pillars. But what we're adding is a fourth pillar, a pillar of story and character, of meaningful choice with consequences. You get to experience your personal life story, your history as a character."

Narrative-based gameplay
Indeed, BioWare is confident that The Old Republic's story will focus on character and affect gameplay like no other MMORPG before. "Because our stories revolve around a player's class, his role, we're able to tell stories that are very focused on who the player is, which is something other BioWare games haven't been able to do," explained Ohlen.

Ohlen went on to explain that each of the game's two factions will contain various classes, each with its own unique backstory. So far, the only classes confirmed are the Jedi and Sith, which will allow players to wield lightsabers and force powers "very early on," versus well into the game as was the case with the first KOTOR.

(The game summary also describes another possible class, the Republic Special Forces, "elite troopers [which] work often in conjunction with the Jedi." Concept art for the game also features assassin droids like the gleefully homicidal HK-47 from the first KOTOR, but it was unclear if they would be companions or playable classes.)

A Republic Special Forces trooper takes a shot at foes on Tython.

Besides the back stories, each class will also have its own branching storyline, which will be affected by players' moral choices as in other BioWare games. However, unlike in single-player RPGs, Old Republic players have no fail-safe when presented with an agonizing choice.

"The big difference, and what makes it so impactful when you're playing it, is you have no save button," said Erickson, a borderline sadistic glint in his eye. "One of the ways people have traditionally played BioWare games is by saying 'Oh my god, that's huge!' and quickly saving. "Then you reload and say 'Oh, that would've happened! That's exciting!' Well guess what, you're how many dozens of hours in…[and] that decision is going to make huge ramifications that are going to affect [you] for hours and hours. And you have to make it, and you have to live with it. That really puts an impact onto choices and story that's much stronger than we've ever been able to do in a game…During our testing, you can tell when these moments were happening, because you'll see people leaning back from their keyboards, wringing their hands."

Such trepidation is understandable, given that a player's choices will permanently open and close storyline options--and their included quests--and affect non-player characters' reactions. This latter factor is especially important, since players will have NPC companions as in the first two KOTORs. "You'll have dialogue with them and start building relationships with them," said Nichols. The interactions with companion NPCs will also open up new options, as they did in Mass Effect and other BioWare games, not all of which will be welcome. "Piss them off enough, and they may leave, and say 'Screw this, I'm outta here!'" joked Nichols, channeling his inner Eric Cartman.

Indeed, Zeschuk believes the options offered by the Old Republic are unique in the massively multiplayer genre. "You really can't overestimate the impact of choice in the MMO space, where choice is something that, in many ways, doesn't really exist. You get a quest and you do your quest. You can't say, 'Well, I'm going to do something different,' or change your mind, or manipulate a character into having a different result. But that's what we're talking about [with SW:TOR]. It offers a degree of choice that hasn't really ever been there before."

This NPC companion has a face only a bounty hunter could love, but sports a versatile wardrobe.

Loose lips sink starships?
Though effusive about how story would affect players in The Old Republic, both BioWare and LucasArts were reticent when it came to hard gameplay details. However, interviews and press materials did provide some information. The Old Republic game will feature "dozens" of worlds inhabited by players, including Coruscant, Tython, and Korriban, the Sith homeworld. Other planets mentioned in the announcement include Alderran, Utapau, Agamar, Dathomir, and Manaan, though their role in the game is unclear.

Some planets will be dominated by one faction, while others will be the sites of skirmishes that are flaring up on the Empire-Republic border. Though reps would not confirm it explicitly, these contested worlds seem a likely spot for player-versus-player battles, which both LucasArts and BioWare reps emphasized would be a major part of The Old Republic. "It will have all the features you'd expect in a triple-A MMO," promised Nichols, including guilds and "plenty of other socialization options."

The Fate of Galaxies
The amount of energy, resources, and enthusiasm being thrown at The Old Republic raises one obvious question: What about Galaxies? LucasArts was emphatic about the fact that there's enough room for two viable Star Wars MMORPGs to co-exist.

The ol' Sith standby Force Choke will be back.

"We're looking to continue to support Galaxies with high-quality updates on into the future," said Jake Neri, producer for LucasArts' online division. "We're focused on a chapter release around Hoth, where we're re-creating the battle at Echo Base. We'll allow players to get in groups and jump in and just participate in a very high-quality battle. We've just released a trading card game inside of Galaxies, and fans are eating it up. Looking into next year, we're going to revamp our droid system with something called droid commander." Neri also said that SOE Austin was working in conjunction with LucasArts on further additions to Galaxies for years to come, with no end to the game in sight.

That said, Nichols is confident that the lessons learned from Galaxies' checkered history will be applied to The Old Republic. "What we can bring to the table is our experience with the brand," he said. "We can bring our knowledge of what's worked and what hasn't [worked] with Star Wars, and what's popular with Star Wars fans. We can bring elements to BioWare and say 'Hey, we know what works here and what doesn't, and let's see if we can kind of work together to kind of tweak this a little bit and tweak that.' And that's how the collaborative partnership is working."

Launch date TBA, console versions TBD
Last week, Dragon Age was confirmed as coming to the PC early next year and to the 360 and PS3 later that holiday season, casting The Old Republic's 2009 target window into doubt. Indeed, LucasArts and BioWare have now backed away from the previously attributed launch window, which was first proffered in a 2007 Information Week interview.

They apparently grow 'em big and ugly in the Old Republic…

"When the content and the quality is there, that's the sign we'll be ready to go," said Nichols. "We're gonna make sure we take the right amount of time to make sure it's awesome," seconded Muzyka. "At the same time, we're part of Electronic Arts, so we're committed to delivering a great experience for our fans, who are eager to play like we are."

When the possibility of a console version came up, the infamous wall of BioWare secrecy was raised. "The PC version is all we've talked about so far," was the most Zeschuk would say.

However, the executive was effusive--even ebullient--about the challenge The Old Republic presents for BioWare. "I'd say this is definitely our biggest project yet," Zeschuk declared flatly. "We've worked on a lot of games--Mass Effect was a big game, and Dragon Age is a big game. But Star Wars: The Old Republic is just plain huge. And what makes it huge is not only that it's Star Wars--which means it's got to be epic--but [in] the MMO space, we've got something to prove. This is our first game in that space, and there's some really great competition, and we want to stand out…Ultimately in the MMO space, more than any other, you really have to nail it. There's a real high bar in that space now."

Discussion

882 comments
stev69
stev69

Isnt hindsight a wonderful thing? Shame this game turned out to suck.

dante251299
dante251299

i will buy this since bioware is good and id make a bounty hunter called dog

Kaeldin
Kaeldin

these fanboys of PC KOTOR 3 really make me laugh... I understand the owners of Xbox but PC!? The good about KOTOR 3 is that is as such an awesome story that I ate the 2 first games (almost literally) and a lesson I learned from playing MMO is that with a good story it can get you really addicted (and just due to the story) imagine with great story... with the right features this might beat WoW by far... If you played KOTOR this is even better (the story actually means something) imagine the conversation with Bastilla in the end of KOTOR1 but without going back, it makes it much better and does a 13$ monthly fee mean anything? I do not work but I can save more than that in just one month so if you were willing to pay for a KOTOR 3 imaging paying for it but instead of the story ending it will always go on

fubbal
fubbal

This is not part 3....its not part 3,4,5,6 and what ever else.Its an mmo and I will not be happy until I see a true sequal the the kotor series!

MoD-Sith
MoD-Sith

if you want an MMO that is really good and you dont have to pay any monthly fees for, go get Guild Wars. but im really excited for Sw:ToR it sounds like its gonna be a really awesome game. i will pay whatever they want me to to play this.

starduke
starduke

I hate MMOs! Monthly fees to play a game I already purchased! How dare they do this to me. I wanted a KOTOR 3, not another stupid MMO. What a bunch of meatbags!

trident1995
trident1995

they want to use old ideas on new games....that can`t be good!that ideas were successful in the past, but might not be good in the future..its better to they make KOTOR 3.they will make much more success by that...

WastedOne111
WastedOne111

For the jury I also add that these devs should already have these details sorted out if their 2010 deadline is real. If they can't answer some of these questions now I have doubts about its design and funding as well. MMO's are a major undertaking, taking time and money.

WastedOne111
WastedOne111

Why can't these confident devs answer any real questions (E3 etc etc.). Questions like: What kind of pvp will there be? Will it be in wow style BGs or real battlegrounds? Will there be a player driven economy? Will there be ship combat? Will there be player owned housing (A la SWG)? Will people who care less about your story still find the game interesting? Do you think your story is so good you can release a half finished MMO? Etc. Etc. I need a new mmo to get addicted to, hope they don't hype then #@%! it up...

DMalice
DMalice

I am very dissapointed with this. If it isnt broke, dont fix it. Single player KOTOR was awesome. The biggest dissapointment to me is having to pay a monthly fee after shelling out $70 up front just to have the game. I loved Kotor, but I refuse to buy a game that I have to pay for over and over. It isnt fair to any of us, especially the younger group who have to save for months to buy a game, like I was when I was younger. Even though I could afford it now, I will not get this game. Im sure it will be great, but its the principle of the thing. By no means am I expecting any one else to boycott this game, but if we did, then maybe the developers would start listening to us and bring out the KOTOR 3 that so many of us have wanted and waited for for many years now.

szann
szann

This is about making money with their monthly fees. Theyre just making Galaxies 2 and re-badging it. Give us what we want, KOTO3 and make your MMO for those who want it.

Free-4Ever
Free-4Ever

Wow. I've been thinking about trying WoW, but the price put me off. I've been playing RuneScape for a while, and I've tried so many other MMORPG's, but so far RuneScape was the best for me. I've always been a bit of a Star Wars fan, mostly of the games more than the movies and books. I was practically drooling over the fact of a SWBF 3, but this???? Star Wars The Old Republic is gonna kick.... booty!!!!

hughami
hughami

so bummed that kotor 3 wasnt made, im a 360 gamer not a pc mmo player. imagine a kotor 3 on the 360 it would have been great. not playing tor.

Ksharp1
Ksharp1

i dont care what the name is as long as its as good as kotor1 and 2 and it should be single player

W3En
W3En

I think a separate KotOR 3 would have been but its to early to judge the old republic. just because its not KotOR 3 doesn't mean it won't be an enjoyable game

Gamer2DaCore
Gamer2DaCore

i agree wid kane... dey should have just made a separate kotor 3... even if dis game is good its gonna b on da pc... not half as much fun as console gaming... and bioware ruined da chance of makin a gr8 rpg... instead dey r makin a stupid mmo... lets hope bioware will make a good rpg to replace kotor3

CorporalKane
CorporalKane

I personally think this will kill kotor, certainly for me (hate mmos and their pricing), they are just 'cranking out' the writing, so how good can it be? I say they should make this as a 'Galaxies 2' and make KOTOR3

preacha91908
preacha91908

im a huge sw fan...infact that really doesnt say it...i have an unhealthy love for star wars...so you could slap star wars on a pile of crap and id buy it...that said im a huge gamer and a console gamer at that...ive played mmos and rpg are my favorite...kotor was hands down the greatest and most immersive game experience ive had...even though its old school i still find myself going back every now and then and playing through again...i liked kotor 2 but it wasnt kotor 1 by far...so the fact that bioware is back is great...the best thing about kotor (and star wars for that matter) is the richness and quality of the story...so im pleased with the consept of the story elements of this game..but my question is with that much content and that many stories will they be able to maintain a consistency in the quality of each story..im excited about this consept and i have confidence in bioware largely based on their great track record...but i think they should be careful not to trade quality for the sake of quantity...this has huge potential but even greater than that this game has alot to live up to...on a different note...id like peoples feed back on another idea...id love to see them (in the future ofcourse) create a follow up on the revan story..even if you didnt actually play as revan (though it would be great)...lets just call it kotor 3 for the sake of argument..but what i want to see is a continuation of that story wrap up in a kotor scaled game but built on the gamplay mechanics of tfu...despite the problems the game had namely its camera and the shortness and lack of content...i think tfu had the greatest combat and force system of any sw game yet..and it would be great to see that kind of awesome gameplay transfered into a game with the story and scale of kotor...it would be a gold mine..but thats just my oppinion..what does everyone else say...

migduvednok
migduvednok

Oops - allow me to be specific: i don't play an MMO to advance in levels or get the complete armor set. I play MMO's to live in the world, to experience the world. Only thing that ever came close to allowing me that, was SWG - which however is broken, ugly and primitive. But the freedom was there once.

migduvednok
migduvednok

Sounds like nothing new, core-wise. Same old MMO-system, only in new graphics and the KOTOR universe. BORING! What i'd most like them to do, is DO AWAY with class-systems, and install complete freedom, and also limit the button pressing menu UI. (ala WOW/WAR.) I'm not hyped for this game. Unfourtunately.

charlieprince
charlieprince

also, after this crap, no more kotor, ill HOPE for mass effect 2... im lvl 60, all achievements... i cant wait to kill more alien races lol, i took all of the bad descisions and completed game with 99 renegade and 1 paragon lol, it was a red planet at the end lol.... with a dot of blue.... its possible to make a purple planet....

charlieprince
charlieprince

i thought force unleashedf sceens from 06 were kotor 3!!!!!!!! force unleashed was OK, but it still suked compared to kotor. now, making a kotor mmo will be the dumbest idea ever. it will start rivalreas between runescape, WoW, itself, and many other online mmos (really, wow is only succesfull one, runescape has sukish graphics and worse gameplay... ever) i think they should turn this into kotor 3 with OPTIONAL online storyline (chromehounds.... best online soryline... onl online story line lol, needs some competition) P.S. apologies, i need to cut my nailes and my keyboard is spaced unevenlt, lol, unevenly. peace

Musical2595
Musical2595

I have a bad idea about this! In my opinion, Bioware should stick to where they had so much success... the KotOR series. It would do a heck of a lot more if they made KotOR 3.

JabbaRancor
JabbaRancor

It is unfortunate that they have decided to take the MMO approach. This will exclude a significant portion of the original KotOR audience. Why not just make Star Wars: Galaxies 2? What makes The Old Republic better than Galaxies anyway?

JabbaRancor
JabbaRancor

I have a crappy computer so hopefully a console version is available, although it would obviously not play the same. Maybe the single player story will be significant enough to warrant its own game.

mjax211
mjax211

Don't usually like MMOs but I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS GAME.

Red-Comrade
Red-Comrade

Dracon600-Fallout 3 already taxes most system with it's graphics.....Do you really think many systems could run an MMO with those graphics? It'd be way too intense. WAR is around what the graphics should be, because that pushes the mid end PCs pretty hard.

unclenugget
unclenugget

no one wants to see another mmo that will likely fail under WoW like all the others, another KOTOR would be better, or a game that shows wat happens to revan with the true sith

ToastManX4
ToastManX4

i have WoW for an mmorpg, i want single player for 360 or something... kotor3

gamzrsweet
gamzrsweet

Just bring back the kotor games please thats all i ask scrap this mmo crap and give us back our rpg we have been waiting for...:D

Dracon600
Dracon600

Personally this doesn't seem to be that great, mostly because of the graphics! I mean a brand new game with graphics like that... What would be awesome would be a fallout 3 MMO. Could you imagine exploring the waste and their being real people exploring it to? That would be epic.

yankees222
yankees222

this is just ludicrous. im not paying monthly for a game that shouldn't have been changed at all. ill pay $60 for kotor 3 for my 360, not $15 a month for a game that just plain looks crappy. not trying to bash it too much, but they had such a good thing going in kotor 3. making an mmorpg was just a dumb idea. all they want is money, pretty soon they won't care about the gamers at all, and turn completely into EA. i dont think anybody wants that. make a kotor 3, and make at least some of us non pc gamers happy.

Darth_Lucius
Darth_Lucius

This will be tricky. KOTOR was a sucess but that was a single rpg. This will be the biggist thing in the history of games, or the biggist sell out in the history of gemes. all i can say is this. TAKE YOUR TIME BIOWARE! Do it right and do it well, or this could ruin you.

Tulak_Hord
Tulak_Hord

Thank you for ruining the series EA, and Bioware.

GhostyMcboo
GhostyMcboo

"hmm, interesting, this will either be bigger than wow, or flop harder than a floppy thing on flop drugs." well put. Hey Bioware, here's what I want for christmas: For you to reveal that is is all Bullshot, and there's a much nicer set of character models that look like TFU crossed SWG... and smaller lightsaber handles...

spike6958
spike6958

Im on the fence with this, i LOVE Star Wars games, but i HATE been told i have to pay monthly to play them, but this does look good i'll have to see how this goes and how much they want to charge us before im playing.

14113a
14113a

hmm, interesting, this will either be bigger than wow, or flop harder than a floppy thing on flop drugs. lets face it- the star wars genre only works in single player or limited multiplayer. star wars mmos are insanley hard to pull off, as you cant just have everybody swanning about as jedi, nor can you have just a few who have either payed the equivilant of a small town, or been playing since they were three. star wars mmos; either gonna be great- or gonna be dead.

calebtheshark
calebtheshark

I cant wait to kick some Jedi ass. The darkside is strong with this one

SlashDementia3
SlashDementia3

If they already have content for or are already making it.. They should cut them up and put them on consoles if possible. This MMO looks good though. Can't wait.

ShickenVings109
ShickenVings109

Graphics look nothing like the KOTOR game.. wish they preserved KOTOR graphics in an mmo.. would of been epic. Never theless I will still pick this up

Deemo
Deemo

Lucas arts kicks out alot of games. If there is a demand there they will make your kotor 3. Heck they will make lego starwars 10 or clone wars 99 if they think people will by it. I think they will make kotor3 and have it on xbox and PS3 if i had to guess. THIS game will be pc and have a subscription. Enough said. Most of what I have seen are artist renderings and seem like very early drafts and knowhere do they say this will be what the finished product will look like. I hope like alot of peps it doesnt end up this cartoon like. Give me alot of different races and classes please. Not every one wants to be a human and have a light saber. I wouldnt expect to see this for at least a year. Even with a huge amount of $$$ and a large team these games take a long time to make. WAR was the last mmo to come out and i think took 4 years to go live.

andro777
andro777

THE BEST GAME OF THE WORLD just set lower prepaid of game =) and it will be the best i know that

andro777
andro777

yea!!! this was waiting long time it will be great game i hope because they saw now new games so they can stel somethings of others games and make it batter like age of conan combat sistem and like force unleash force control and traveling planets or swg space combat(or evan better) just i hope that my pc will be good for that game....cant wait :D:D:DD:

frazzle00
frazzle00

@ jonathon187 At least I brought up a valid point: How many people take dev team hype WITHOUT a grain of salt? You'd have to be a moron not to regard the development team as a biased source when it comes to rating their own game ;). Now I am not decrying the fact that Bioware want to make a Star Wars themed MMO. What I am f**ked off about is the fact that both KOTOR 1 and 2 will NOT get a proper resolution. I wonder how many people would have been annoyed if Bungie decided to create a Halo title 300 years after the events of Halo 2 without bothering to conclude the story laid out in the first two games? After all when it comes to cliffhangers the first 2 Halo titles have a lot in common with the first 2 KOTORs!

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