Star Wars: The Old Republic draws more than 1 million

Population of Electronic Arts' latest MMORPG leans slightly to the Dark Side as created Sith warriors outnumber Jedi knights 850,000 to 810,000.

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At least one analyst has already estimated the subscriber base of Star Wars: The Old Republic at 1.5 million players or more, but Electronic Arts is touting a more down-to-earth number for its latest massively multiplayer online role-playing game. The publisher this week proclaimed that more than 1 million gamers ventured into The Old Republic this holiday season, reiterating claims that the BioWare-developed title is the "fastest-growing subscription MMO in history."

Contrary to this picture, the Sith outnumber the Jedi.

EA also offered a handful of new data points for the game, saying cumulative playtime for last weekend had topped 5.5 million hours. As for which side of the Force players hewed toward, EA said the allure of the Dark Side was slightly more powerful, with more than 850,000 Sith warriors created, compared to 810,000 Jedi knights.

Earlier this month, EA revealed that the beta for The Old Republic had attracted 2 million players. Electronic Arts said in February that The Old Republic would be "substantially profitable" with just 500,000 subscribers, with anything above 1 million monthly users making the game "very profitable."

For more on the game, check out GameSpot's ongoing coverage of Star Wars: The Old Republic.

Discussion

222 comments
megakick
megakick

Not counter producitve, I want to be in a war not a small raid If a team put in some time in to figure it out it would work but no lets make another MMORPG thats a little different then the NORM. Star Wars attack of the clones Geonosis Battle would be epic.

AncientDozer
AncientDozer

@megakick Because 100 man dungeons are counter productive, impersonal, chaotic, and a chore. Why do you think WoW backed off large raid dungeons? Why do you think no MMO after has tried to make large MMO dungeons? Nevermind that it takes forever to form a large group and organize it, balance it out, et cetera.

megakick
megakick

Wouldn't call a game with 4 man dungeons with a empty boring persistant world a MMORPG. Games should have 100 man dungeons by now why go backwards. A team just needs to figure out a way to make them fun, exciting, easy to PUG but make it challenging. Why is EA changing a subscription fee for a co op game?

abadgirl84
abadgirl84

My guild left Rift for it.They seem to really love it,but 60 Eu +15/month is kinda way too much..judging i am not a SW fan and D3 and GW2 will be on this year..i'll stick to Skyrim till then.Plenty to do there anyway.

Poodger
Poodger

@ The_Dragon_Born I have plenty of offline friends that I hang out with on a daily basis, I just prefer my video game worlds to actually feel alive with other players. And no, I am not leg-humping Skyrim like everyone else seems to. I get bored very quickly playing it at my friends house. In a game world like that, I simply need other wandering around too. I feel too lonely and bored in a world inhabited by only myself.

trust2112
trust2112

It is a very good game, but not worth the 60 dollar asking price. If I had not beta tested and such I doubt I would have paid it otherwise. Although right now I am not playing as I've had problems since maintenance or update issues. So keep reading posts and forums about the game. It is a fun SW game, and I would put it there with the Jedi Academy for fun factor.

Soothsayer42
Soothsayer42

I hope this turned out well. Since they just spend 100m on this game. Only 1million subs? Thats a little bit unexpected for such a 'hype'.. Have fun to everyone who is playing this.

flaming_fox911
flaming_fox911

"Embrace the dark side, Luke... That's is your destiny!"

Phatjam98
Phatjam98

@Philly1UPer Except those games you mentioned did not have these kind of numbers or anywhere near 2 weeks into its release. And while WoW has been the top dog, they are falling off as of late and people are ready for something new, hence the great timing of SWTOR. And SWTOR is said to be profitable at 800k subscriptions, they have over 1 mill currently, so by their own economics they are profitable, not that they will become profitable as they gain membership. But hey, I guess you just needed to clarify everything I correctly read and countered before huh?

areszues92
areszues92

Bioware should have used the 300mil for a few epic games.

Philly1UPer
Philly1UPer

@Phatjam98 Maybe you should read my post more clearly when I said those other games "Had those numbers or near those numbers" yeah? And hey, they said the same things about those games, how it will be profitiable as the number in subscriptions became higher and now look at them. Im not saying this game is going to fail, but Its hard for any MMO today to even compete, because just like how Nintendo dominated the Handheld Market for close to 20 years, WoW dominates the MMO market.

Bootsakah
Bootsakah

I've been playing SWTOR like mad, it's been great fun. It feels like Vanilla WoW in some ways but with some new innovations as well. Only wish they put in Custom UI and dual spec at launch, but I expect those to come soon. Bottom line, is it's fun and addicting to play. Anyone who has enjoyed WoW should check it out. Get to level 25 (when you get a mount) and you will be hooked.

FoeCrusher
FoeCrusher

If that many people are still playing after 6 months then the game will have been the success it was hoped to be. If not then it will join a long list of MMOs that never lived up to their hype. While I am not playing it, I am hopeful that it will find a solid fan base. Having said that, I was not impressed with the low level experience that was shown by Kevin Van Ord. I watched about 45 min of it and there was nothing compelling about it to me.

Zyconnic
Zyconnic

People saying it will go free to play is only saying it as they want to play it but don't wont to support it.. It wont go free to play.. haters gonna hate

Netherscourge
Netherscourge

You can't have huge, non-instanced MMO's anymore. Server technology simply doesn't exist to allow more than around maybe 300 people/characters in a single server space without the game being unplayable. Get used to it.

shawnanthony
shawnanthony

Hey HEY, now take it easy internet... im just gonna say one thing about this game... "Tommy likey, tommy want wingy!"

blacksaibot
blacksaibot

Pfff.. pay to play? No thanks. Parents with all these geeky gamer kids can afford these monthly subscriptions and video game releases each month yet I hear all these complaints about the economy and not being able to afford "necessities."

Phatjam98
Phatjam98

@Philly1UPer None of the games you mentioned had similar launch numbers. In fact the games you mentioned were plagued with bugs and problems that held back the subscriptions. DCU went free to play so fast it was silly because of its problems on the PS3 and lack of content. Age of Conan had huge problems that kept many away for months before even giving it a shot. And LOTR hit around the time that WoW was booming which totally sap'd it of what would have been a large subscriber base. SWTOR comes out at a perfect time as us old WoW'rs are looking for something fresh and new, it has very few bugs, and is highly entertaining. To try and stack it up against DCU or Conan is just silly. You should play it before you go off making absurd comparisons and predictions. By the way, EA has said that 1 mil subscribers makes SWTOR profitable.... Guess what, they hit that in the first couple weeks.

Phatjam98
Phatjam98

@JasPlun So your entire post is about your assumptions you've made based on bits and pieces you've read? Play it, understand what it is for yourself then give an opinion on it. Having played the game I can tell you that it will be around for quite some time and it will simply continue to build a fan base as people give it a spin. But hey, don't take it from me, you've read articles. LOL

JasPlun
JasPlun

Old Republic will not last as long as some people might think,oh yeah right now it is shiny and new,but from what I read it is really not a true mmorpg.The game is heavily instanced kind of like an improved version of Age Of Conan from what I read and hear there is always around 200+ people per instance.This was a MAJOR turn off for me.Now I am not saying it will not be a success just that it will not even come close to what WOW did subscription wise. Watching twitch TV it looked like playing Kotor in an Online world with Mass Effect like voice acting and UI.I would have been 1st in line had this game been done in the timeline I love which was episodes 4,5,and 6.I do hope it succeeds WOW is stale and in need of serious competition.Question is will it hold people there beyond the free period and beyond.

thereal-15-cent
thereal-15-cent

@DanGleeSack, I agree. They need to make a "Jedi Knights:Jedi Academy 3" too. The first two games were awesome. Lucasarts makes allot of good games... It just seems like they abruptly stop half of them. Battlefront and JK:JA are good examples.

DanGleeSack
DanGleeSack

Give me a republic commando 2 and battlefront 3 then we will talk.

Mogzsnet
Mogzsnet

@Philly1UPer Actually ALL books are considered canon to Star Wars as each concept of each book has to be approved by Lucas Arts to ensure it fits in to the greater Star Wars story.

Philly1UPer
Philly1UPer

@zavelius Because I'm going off what I have seen in person when watching my friends play when I go over to their house and chill.

zavelius
zavelius

@Philly1UPer How can you honestly see SWTOR go F2P when you haven't even tried it?

Philly1UPer
Philly1UPer

@BillyColeman They have access to a lot of star wars mythology. Star Wars while mainly known as a big movie name, people tend to forget that their book collection is huge, with some of those books being considered canon to the Star Wars Mythology. Expansions and monthly fees can be done correctly, but it depends on how they actually can go about creating it while keeping subs and gaining new subs. ill still shell out 30 bucks for two months of WoW and after that time is over, I wont pay for more time until like, 8 months later. Only reason I go back to WoW time every once in a while because I know what I'm getting, I know what I paid for, and even though they dumb downed WoW extremely and made it so anyone with no kind of skill can play, i'll still go back, mainly for PVP or Raids. I can honestly see SWTOR going free to play probably by the fall of 2012. I want to try this game out, but I've already invested a good amount of money into WoW, so they really have to show me something awesome that will pull me in and make me invest money intoa fresh MMO that may not have a great life span.

Icehearted
Icehearted

As I recall Age of Conan did fairly well despite stiff competition during it's first month or so. This is Star Wars, on name alone it'll do better at launch, but I doubt these numbers are sustainable. WoW was the last best chance any publisher had for a pay to play model, many felt that when it was announced for this game, and many still feel that way. F2P is the future, not just for MMOs, but for Star Wars: TOR. They'll never get a foothold like Blizzard and even Sony had once. Those days are gone (thank goodness).

BillyColeman
BillyColeman

Philly1UPer come on you know were the games going all ready. free to play in fall or winter in 2012 haha ppl think thay can bring out an mmo just cuse it has a big name behind it like dcu now free to play ect iv play this game and dont see anything to hold ppl to it for long enless there a star wars fanatic

souther_hill
souther_hill

@ nanorazor: I would die for a Battlefront 3! I played Battlefront 2 to death. :D

Philly1UPer
Philly1UPer

We will see how the game actually does though when the time comes where people have their toons maxed out and finished up the main story and end game content. What are they going to offer us through expansions and patch updates? LOTR Online and Age of Conan, along with DCU had these kind of numbers or near these numbers, now look at them. They went free to play in hopes of keeping subs and gaining new subs because people lost interest.

leberkez
leberkez

Got already 100+ hours in SWTOR and its must have game. If you like Mass Effect series etc , this is like MMO but much bigger , much better , a lot of pvp at end game etc , i am still lvl40 only so i cant say how it is at lvl50. But if you havent tried it i say you do , i didnt expect it to be that good myself tbh

groovus
groovus

@ mimicry The 3 things you stated Im not, just to clarify. If I find something (gamewise) that I think I should be vocal about, and others would like, I post something. Yes, I heard of Guild Wars 2 and others you mentioned. But until you try SWTOR, I think you should just be quiet, and tend to fixing those broken cinder blocks under your trailer that need replaced. :)

iloveyourface
iloveyourface

"Electronic Arts said in February The Old Republic would be 'substantially profitable' with just 500,000 subscribers, with anything above 1 million monthly users making the game 'very profitable.' " genius economists you got there, EA! give them a raise. *slowest clap possible*

4love10
4love10

this sound like bull---- to me

thereal-15-cent
thereal-15-cent

Not to be a buzz kill, I'm sure this game is awesome. But... Will they make KOTOR 3? The first two were two of my favorite games ever made. I know they canceled KOTOR 3 at one point when it was in development. That's why I hate EA... Their games can get good reviews and have solid sales, but they'll be happy to cancel a series if isn't competing with the sales of other hit games.

GarGx1
GarGx1

I play lots of games, I tend not to go back to games I've finished, only occasionaly does a game get a replay. Most games are finished with inside a week or two and cost between £30 and £45. This on the other hand will be played for, at least, a few months, so for in my view £8.99 a month is well worth it. Oddly it'll actually save me money as I will not be buying as many games as normal.

K-prince-X
K-prince-X

The thing is they have squized the franchise to much with bad games. they should fokus on lesser games with better content. and focus on a strong storyline, instead of 13 games with the exactually same battlefield stories, like in the 3 new movies. PS: And i know Lego star wars is primary for the little gamers, but srsly how many parts can they make from attack of the clones :D ? I think its Attack of the clones part 3 now, right ? hehe...

K-prince-X
K-prince-X

The thing is they have squized the franchise to much with bad games. they should fokus on lesser games with better content. and focus on a strong storyline, instead of 13 games with the exactually same battlefield stories, like in the 3 new movies. PS: And i know Lego star wars is primary for the little gamers, but srsly how many parts can they make from attack of the clones :D ? I think Attack of the clones part 3 is out now, right ? hehe...

nanorazor
nanorazor

I hope this MMO bring profit to LucasArts to they can make better games with experienced third party game studios instead of amateurs.. force unleashed series was pretty bad. Hopefully one of the next star wars games is battlefront 3

I_ArCh0n_I
I_ArCh0n_I

Not suprised, this is a a great game and is essentially a multiplayer version of KOTOR just with a ton of more content, what more could you ask for?

Dragdar
Dragdar

"you realize that for that $240 youve literally been doing the exact same thing for hours on end. I can spend 120$ for a few months of gaming and have an engrossing experience with gameplay that is varied and engaging" . pretty much this, MMOs are the Apple of gaming industry, more money for less features. .

K-prince-X
K-prince-X

terminus Dude ? dont u ever use email? Facebook? Ýoutube ? I can see you are using Gamespot site. so, no u do not have the internet because of one game, u have it because it is a MUST at this point in everyones lives :D.. Well specially the gamers :D. I could see where u were going with this, but then you took a spear to the knee!

Evenios
Evenios

I like The Old Republic i really dont understand all the hate. The game is diffrent then other MMOs in that it has a nice story plus yes the world is a bit less open ended but i kind of like that. it makes you feel like you are on an adventure, The combat seems fun to me as Jedi Sentinental and i am looking foward to playing it more. I think if your a hardcore MMOer sure you might not like it but for the average gamer i think this is a fun game to play :-).

Mimicry
Mimicry

If anyone here thinks that SW:TOR is a *ground-breaking* MMO (to borrow someone's expression from earlier) then you are either: A. A fanboy B. Have not been keeping up with the MMO genre C. Have never heard of Guild Wars 2, Tera or Firefall Bottom line: if you're truly having as much fun playing SW:TOR as you think you are, then why does the opinion of strangers on the internet matter so much to you?

groovus
groovus

If you would have told me 2 weeks ago, Id be playing SWTOR, and saying its a groundbreaking MMO, I would have said your crazy. The game is amazing. Groundbreaking in the way when you group with people and solo, everything with quests is voice acted, and VERY well done. It truly pulls you in the game world like NO OTHER MMO Ive ever played did. (Ive played them all BTW). Also Bioware just nailed the crap out of the Star Wars universe. The graphics (Im gaming on a GTX580 settings on full blast) look unique and fresh. The companion system is incredible, that was one of the reasons I bought it, I love to solo. But this is the first game I really like to group with people. You have a say (if you win a die roll) what response you give to the NPC. It has to be seen to get the whole effect. I had NO intent on buying this game 2 weeks ago. But after watching the companion system on You Tube, I was sold. Lastly, when you create a character, the game starts like the start of a Star Wars film, and really puts you in the role of the hero. I guess Im saying, immersion? Anyone whos into MMO's and Star Wars at all, a little or alot should not miss this game. Believe the hype.