Sony slapping PSN ban on all PS3 hackers

Hardware maker to permanently terminate console's ability to connect to online service if pirated software, security circumvention device detected.

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Following the PlayStation 3's security breach in January, Sony has aggressively gone after those responsible for releasing the security key that allows people to run unauthorized software on their consoles. The publisher has also been investigating ways in which it plans to deal with the fallout from that opening of the Pandora's box among average gamers, and today, the publisher issued a statement detailing those plans.

Sony will be cutting the online lifeline for PS3 cheaters.

In a notice posted to the PlayStation Blog, Sony said that it will permanently ban all PS3 consoles from the PlayStation Network and Qriocity media service if a security circumvention device or pirated software is detected.

"Notice: Unauthorized circumvention devices for the PlayStation 3 system have been recently released by hackers," reads the update. "These devices permit the use of unauthorized or pirated software. Use of such devices or software violates the terms of the 'System Software License Agreement for the PlayStation 3 System' and the 'Terms of Services and User Agreement' for the PlayStation Network/Qriocity and its Community Code of Conduct provisions."

"Violation of the System Software License Agreement for the PlayStation 3 System invalidates the consumer guarantee for that system," the notice continues. "In addition, copying or playing pirated software is a violation of International Copyright Laws. Consumers using circumvention devices or running unauthorized or pirated software will have access to the PlayStation Network and access to Qriocity services through PlayStation 3 system terminated permanently."

"To avoid this, consumers must immediately cease use and remove all circumvention devices and delete all unauthorized or pirated software from their PlayStation 3 systems," the post concludes. The publisher did not provide a date for when it will begin to enforce the ban on violators.

Sony social media manager Jeff Rubenstein went on to note that today's update is the company's "initial response" to concerns over the console's security. "By identifying PlayStation 3 systems that breach our guidelines and terminating their ability to connect to PlayStation Network, we are protecting our business and preserving the honest gameplay experiences that you expect and deserve," he said.

Sony's security headache began last month, when iPhone jailbreaker George Hotz, aided by the hacking group fail0verflow, released a set of security keys that indicated to the system that any given bit of code has been approved by Sony to run on the console. This release cracked the PS3 wide open for people to install and run unauthorized software on the system, from homebrew applications to pirated games and custom firmware.

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ersten
ersten

No they will just upgrade the OS. - Just received a kind reply from Sony US. I have to thank them.

kb8618
kb8618

With recent news about hackers faking IDs to get on psn im afraid that ppl who have done nothing wrong could end up getting banned, which would just mean that sony would have to undo all the bans before a class action law suit is filed, and that would just end up letting all the cheaters back online

ersten
ersten

Sent today to Sony: "I appreciate your enforcement of the "Terms of Services and User Agreement" in an attempt to eject from PSN some users who, in your opinion, do not respect those terms and install software on their console - which you disapprove. I do, as far as I know, respect those terms as my PS3 works with its original software (unless I have been hacked). I was therefore quite surprised not to be able to access PSN yesterday. I had to google to find out that Sony were doing "some maintenance". If that is the case, I regret that Sony did not have the courtesy to inform me of the downtime, since your company took the trouble to email those suspected of using non legit software on their machines but chose to ignore their faithful and long-term customers (not to mention my TV, stereo, etc.. all Sony). Unless the trouble is caused by my own console, since its behavior has been a bit crappy lately: loss of sound on the HDMI port, frequent freezes, etc .. on a six months old console. Therefore if I could not access the network because of mechanical issues with my own console, please accept my apologies."

TheBest88
TheBest88

@Briantb_2008 yup, w.e you say.

Briantb_2008
Briantb_2008

@TheBest88 ya thats smooth delete all your comments

TheBest88
TheBest88

@Briantb_2008 yup, w.e you say.

Briantb_2008
Briantb_2008

@TheBest88 and you just continue on.... do me a favor and look at your comments from what im seeing each and everyone one of them you have posted you have to click show in order to view them or they have already been removed clearly that should make some kinda sense to you. Yet you still went out of your way to repley to my message. Seems like you enjoy wasting time otherwise you would not of posted further.

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Briantb_2008
Briantb_2008

@TheBest88 I dont see where your rant really began its seems to gone on for a while but by the fact that some of your post "does not meet display criteria" It seem your the one who is immature and still ranting to the last post stason6 had which was 5 post before yours. oh and it seems he ended it eariler by not posting futher.

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robbob1212
robbob1212

Piracy ruined gaming for me. It started out just getting a game for free, but now it seems I'm more into having(collecting) games than actually playing them. I spend all my time getting the newest games, but hardly play them at all. Is there anyone out there that feels their stuck just keeping up with new releases, and barley playing-- like me??

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spoonybard-hahs
spoonybard-hahs

@ sexytyrant69 Congratulations on building a better Straw Man. First of all, depending on where you buy a house, odds are you're subject to the codes set forth by any kind of Home Owners Association, especially in gated or modular communities (and sometimes, the leadership for these communities have to even approve of you moving in). Second, even without an HOA, you're subject to the city/county/state ordinances, regulating such things as lawn care and how your property is defined and what you can build on it. Is this from the realtor? No. But assuming you can just do anything with your house without a worry in the world is - frankly - stupid. Aside from that, it's not a contradiction. Hacking in it's simplest terms is reprogramming without permission. If Sony and Microsoft didn't give out dev kits, the indie scene would be dead for consoles. And as for Nintendo, they're idiots. They lost 50% of developer support because of how closed off they were. If they handed out dev kits to indie studios, they wound't be sliding into the pit they are now, and their Wiimotes would actually be useful.

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twistedmalice
twistedmalice

Your always going to have hackers. I really don't care if they can get pirated stuff. Knowing them they will still find a way around Sony's band. Who knows they may have two PS3's. One to play pirated games and another to follow Sony's rules. Who cares any way? With all the money they make off us gamers I'm glad someone can get something for free.

sexytyrant69
sexytyrant69

spoonybard-hahs: madSomnambulist: I'm simply stating that's it's a double standard,you either support hacking or against it entirely,not choose and make products or prepherals that you choose and decide that you can use for the PC.It's like buying a house from a relator and you letting your out of town family members stay, The relator cant tell who you can and cannot stay in their house. Once Sony sells those kits to the public it's just like the OS feature all over again.You be suprised how many talented people out here that make something so useless into a money making empire,of something that you usually throw away,into something that people can benefit. You don't think Microsoft let the Kinect hackable without a Ulterior motive.Please.There using that to get ideas for the use of kinect for free to put in their upcoming games.Sony catched on and doing the same thing with the MOVE.Taking a fan idea and not giving them any credit is a form of stealing and thats what sony does best. Nintendo on the other hand is fully against it and not making any prepherals for hacking experiments.You'll never see the Wiimote used on a PC as a substitute click bar. My point is if you gonna stand against something fully stand against it and not contradict yourself by adding a UNLESS in your arguement.Now to me it's makes microsoft and sony support hacking.On their terms.even if it is a device.

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ThePeacemaker83
ThePeacemaker83

Its simple you can jailbreak your PS3 run your own stuff on it. Or you can get on the PSN. You can't do both an shouldn't be able to.

spoonybard-hahs
spoonybard-hahs

@sexytyrant69 Allowing people to fiddle around with their motion control devices is not tantamount to enabling hacking. It's not to the determent of the companies nor other players (like piracy and hack cheating is).

blue_francis14
blue_francis14

Hacking is not good or bad. It's just how you use it. Hackers could've done it and not tell the world about it right? Or went to Sony and say, hey, there's a flaw in your system.

advanracer
advanracer

@sexytranny69 Leme guess..SONY Slapped ya hard and You liked it. Hence your gripe in here.

madSomnambulist
madSomnambulist

@ sexytyrant69 Sony does not "support hacking", and any open support they offer toward the Move is either a liberal handing out of kits or making certain parts of that code open source. Highly suggest you research these topics before making blanket statements on their corporate philosophy. Microsoft isn't "supporting hacking" with the Kinect, either. It's in the same light, and in line with what Apple and Google are more than happy to allow to get more development for their mobile OSes. It's easy money over PSN/XBL/iTunes/AM, and offers them an outstanding balance between oversight and publisher controls. Greater opportunities in software development != hacking. You may get thumbs down, but it's not a fanboy issue; it's just a lack of understanding of the whole process. A freedom by definition is God-given, and they choose to use TOS/EULAs to hold their cards, which is their choice, and thus don't appreciate the hacking. Liberties are rights granted downward, which is what all want to encourage now.

sexytyrant69
sexytyrant69

I personally find it pathetic that Sony can be a bunch of hypocrites when it comes to hacking.They support hacking and then against it,for instance.They got rid of the Other OS feature so they can eliminate hacking the PS3(as they claim). Next, they are going to make the PS MOVE hackable,(the way Microsoft allowed hackers to alter the Kinect for custom homebrewing) yet they are going to court to to fight and punish hackers so they wont hack into their Sony products.(It's like catching and beating on a animal and then tricked the animal to come to you with food only to have captured it again and this time choose to beat it again or kill it.) But the real funny thing is that all ya'll fanboys say that hacking is wrong.Period!!No matter if it's use for good or evil.Are the same people who support Sony's genius decisions("sarcasm") for their contradiction.Seems like a double standard contradiction to me.and to the rise of a bunch of Sony fanboy hypocrites that exist.Feel free to hit thumb down, fanboys.lol.

TheBest88
TheBest88

@Zucarin actually Sony can brick the console if the wanted to but I think it would be illegal idk. People are lucky they aren't going the route of microsoft, when Halo 3 was leaked, they made it so you needed to buy a brand new console in order to go on Live again. I hope they go that route. That'd be the best, I'm not a hacker so I don't need to worry about it, and anyone here who complains must be doing something with their system to be complaining about something that isn't going to affect them unless they are hacking.

big-boss-91
big-boss-91

now hackers can unban themselves? how about stop banning the hackers from PSN and turn their PS3 into bricks. that way they have to buy a new PS3 which would boost sales too.

blackace
blackace

All of a sudden PSN crashes and Sony is scratching their heads trying to figure out why, how and who? lol!! Sony is playing with fire. It's going to be fun to see how this all ends. I already say, "Don't piss off the hands that feed you." The bans are going to be a temporary fix in the end. I'm glad I don't play many PS3 games online. Last online game I played was GT5.

Crash_WL
Crash_WL

@night-dreamers It's not about Jailbreaking, it's about going online with it. PSN is the same in all countries, and Sony condemns those who use the PSN while Jailbreaking, which is completely fair.

night-dreamers
night-dreamers

@Crash_WL Crimes are defined by certain countries not companies :?, why is jailbreaking an iphone is okay while a ps3 is not in the US? Btw I'm not with jailbreaking ps3 I find the ps3 more beautiful without em.

gstealer
gstealer

Zucarin @ Well, I'm sorry to inform you sir, but that is not my problem.

liam82517
liam82517

@InnerSenses You misunderstood me. Im not saying those things dont work Im saying that sony looks at those things the same way they look at hacking devices. In other words that little agreement you dont care about says in the fine print that you will not use 3rd party devices and you can face a ban from psn if you are found to be using them. Which they can now do thanks to the 3.56 update and the recent user agreement.

InnerSenses
InnerSenses

@liam82517 You make Sony sound so evil when you talk about how they monitor us. I agreed to the Terms of Service fully knowing that Sony would be allowed to monitor what I do, but the way I see it, the worst a company like that could do (I reckon) is use me for market research. And as for the lack of third party compatibility, I don't know what is wrong with your PS3, but my third party USB stick and headset still work fine. I would contact Sony about that power supply problem of yours too, I can't imagine how a machine dependent on power could risk switching itself off simply because the power supply plugged into it is not a Sony cable. I left my power supply at college one weekend and used the cable for my kettle... lol it worked fine :D

deathshead023
deathshead023

im pretty sure SONY's approach wont be the banning of IP addresses. the simpler and easiest way for them is to ban your PS3's unique MAC address. therefore no matter where you plug in your PS3 , SONY can identify it and kick it out instantly. im not sure about individual accounts if they get banned to, im leaning towards that it will. thats as easy to do as banning the MAC address.

magicalclick
magicalclick

@yoda101280 How can that be done? If you share out going IP like company, school, dorm, etc, the IP is same except the ports and the ports are always released and assigned to a new user. If you ban it, you will end up baning random people in the same network.

liam82517
liam82517

@emperiox Probably not, as sony does state that in buying the console at all you enter in to a contract that they can modify the ps3 at any time. You are free to decline the new user agreement but you wont be getting on psn if you do. As I said I have no problem banning people for playing pirated games on line but this new agreement is something that is best left in the works of george orwell.

Darth_Tyrranus
Darth_Tyrranus

This is the correct way to combat pirating. Going after the hackers who released the key is not.

emperiox
emperiox

@liam82517 So they actually made a new agreement? Does that mean I can return my PS3 within 30 days for a refund? Just curious...

amerxenos76uk
amerxenos76uk

in response to high game prices.. i dont know how things fair in the US but recently in the UK GAME and gamestation have started a service were once you have pre-ordered a game you can swap it every 14 days and pay just 3-5 pound on the next new release. they started this from the release of Dead Space 2. thats cheaper than renting the game too!