Sony: PS3 problems 'unsubstantiated'

SCEA communications chief blasts an analyst report citing next-gen console issues at Tokyo Game Show, says flatly that the "PS3 does not suffer from an overheating problem."

Yesterday, Sony stock fell 2.75 percent on the Tokyo Stock Exchange after several analyst downgrades sent traders scrambling. One of the reports, issued by Macquarie Equities' David Gibson, expressed concern that many of the 200-plus PlayStation 3s on the floor of the 2006 Tokyo Game Show "operated erratically and had to be repeatedly reset," according to the AP.

"While the reason for this is unknown, we suspect it may be due to overheating as a result of enclosing the units and the high temperatures at the venue," Gibson said. "We are concerned that such a problem has occurred so close to full production and is clearly negative news for the company."

Today, Sony fired back, blasting Gibson's note. "If you read the report from Macquarie closely, you can see that their reports are unsubstantiated and that comments related to the alleged failure of PS3 units at TGS are also not attributed to a source," countered Dave Karraker, Sony Computer Entertainment America's senior director of corporate communications, in an e-mail to GameSpot.

A statement from Sony seconded Karraker's comments. "Despite the report from Macquarie Securities implying that they had heard of reports of PS3s needing to be rebooted at TGS, SCEI are not aware of any instances of this occurring at TGS, nor have we received any reports from third parties to such effect," it proclaimed.

That said, Sony did concede, "The environmental conditions at TGS conspire to test any electrical item. In the case of PS3, the combination of pre-production software, running on pre-production debug units, enclosed in demonstration units without ventilation, and surrounded by so many eager fans that on Saturday and Sunday it was almost impossible to move, are bound to prove a challenge. If indeed, there was the occasional unit that needed rebooting, it was due solely to the adverse environmental conditions within the Hall and not to any more general problem with PS3."

However, there was no company's bottom line. "On the Press Day on Friday, and throughout the weekend the PlayStation stand was inundated by specialist gaming media, the majority of whom would have noticed if there had been a general problem with console overheating...[The] PS3 does not suffer from an overheating problem."

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jehuty12
jehuty12

for all of you sony bashers out there let me ask you one question. IF MICROSOFT IS SO GREAT HOW COME THEY AREN'T SUPPORTING XBOX? i haven't seen a decent game come out for the xbox in months. They released the 360 then let the xbox die. in the last months the console has only seen lackluster third party support. But the ps2 on the other hand has seen continual support from sony. In fact the company said it will continue to support the ps2 for another five years. It pisses me off so much when i can't get a decent new game for my xbox

Tok3d
Tok3d

Please no ps3 fanboys; the system is going to have problems, and thats just the way things happen, deal with it.

leimeisei
leimeisei

Well, according to a quote said above, the PS3s were enclosed completely and also were placed in a hot environment, which definitely may have contributed. Another thing is... arent many of those games in beta versions still? When they release Windows beta test versions, those also can behave eratically because they are still testing. Maybe the problem wasn't the PS3s, but the games. However, if it was the PS3s overheating due to where they were placed, then you cant blame them.. Many computers would overheat in a completely enclosed, overly warm environment.

SilverPhoneix
SilverPhoneix

Whether the story is true or false is irrelevant for now, because all it really means is more bad press. It'll be at least a year before we know if all this negative publicity actually hurt sales since the first round of ps3's will be bought up by fanboys (just like with the 360 and will be with the Wii). It will most likely have heating problems, just like the 360, but it doesn't matter. A little common sense in placing your system or a new incarnation of the nyko intercooler will solve it. If you've just spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars on a new system and its periphery's I doubt you'll care about paying $25 for a cooler. What Sony's got to worry about is the fact that nonfanboy-average joe gamers are hearing constant bad news (true or not) about their system, and the high price tag isnt likely to attract new gamers. So in the end, do you have a system supported only by their numerous fanboys? Cuz that's not a system that can hold down their huge chunk of market share.

timag123
timag123

Can fanboys not stick to their domain? So PS3's are overheating? Is that a big deal for an unreleased system? I got my Xbox 360 in January and have had a few little problems, 1 overheat while it was on carpet but thats it. These overheating issues aren't wide spread. Hopefully Sony gets the overheating issue iron out before its release. I think the excuse given by Sony is a good one, however, if these consoles get into homes and overheat in normal conditions then I think you people can complain and bash the PS3. It's what many Sony fanboys did with the IMO over exaggerated X360 overheating issue. I've had so many issues with Sony consoles but I'm sure they will have a bug-free, defect-free system out, eventually. I pretty much hate Sony, but because they somehow have all this 3rd party support I have to continue to purhase their consoles to play the great games it gets honored with every so often. But wow, I can't believe how many fanboys took up this "oppurtunity" to bash the Sony fanboys. It's like the fanboys look at the consoles they don't worship, look for somethign bad about it and give it al this attention it doesn't need. Overheating is a common issue. If you purchase a PS3, take it home and have it overheat on you THEN you may complain. Not when you don't have the console and hear reports of an unreleased console overheating at a crowded gameshow with improper ventilation. If you're a fanboy stick to your own console and it's reports and forums. It'll save you many biased arguements and you won't get into dumb little arguements based off rumors. I'm pretty sure everyone has something better to do. Why can't more people be like me and Jayden-lee? True gamers play on all consoles, EVERY console has it's ups and downs, and you miss out on amazing games when you stick to a single console. WHY would you just play on Nintendo consoles, Sony consoles or Microsoft consoles? You miss out on tons of great games. I just don't see how you people do it.

R3DN1N3
R3DN1N3

[WIZO59] Buddy u got issues-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------. And 2nd the only reason this company called SONY is even alive is because of u fanatics. They churn out defective systems at 1st and then make a million versions of the same piece of junk! They then copy inovations from other companies and even dare to mock them. Don't even get me started with the spyware on those Cd's months ago. If it was up to me this company would have been closed down long LONG ago! But if u fanatics like your system to break down on u that's your biz. Frankly I'd be pissed if I had to go and exchange my brand spankin' new PS3. They say u get what u pay but it sure doesn't look like that heap of plastic is even worth it's price.

xophaser
xophaser

I agree with Thanatos. The PS3 will most likely have the same issues as the original X360. Looking in hindsight my brother first PS1 did skip after time, but when I got a PS1 and PS2 after both price drops, it never had an issue. Cnet wrote an article that recommends buying any new systems after 6 months from release dates. You are basically playing on a beta machine. Will this issue cause me to not buy a PS3, no. I will get one next year. If I do get one early, I will have to be proactive with return and warranty policies. Sony, MS's websites have link for all repair and recall for free on certain models. I watched Pirate of the Caribbean on ABC-HD and it was light and day better then the DVD. I guess I am just eager for new technologies. That Mahjong game should be free with the PS3 otherwise nextyear is when the real games are coming out.

jayden-lee
jayden-lee

i've got my money for my PS3 and a Wii and i'll probably buy Superman for my 360 either way i will be playing on all 3 systems enjoying my gamer life and if one happens to get a little to warm i'll just return it to Wal-Mart where they will happily allow me to exchange it for another and if not then i'll just use the warranty and get a new one. So if anyone would like to join me online just hit me up on whatever system you have and enjoy being a gamer like me....not worrying about Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo...just loving their products because when it comes down to it i really dont think they are worried about me and how im gonna play...just so long as i play on their system

Thanatos2
Thanatos2

Let's face the facts people. PS 3 Overheating....who cares? That's what a warranty is for. It's all gonna come down to games, and since PS3 has the lion's share of 3rd party developer support, the only thing any other system is gonna have is a plumber, an elf with a sword, an alien power suit with a sexy girl in it and a cyborg soldier named Master Chief.

Darkwolve_basic
Darkwolve_basic

Bashers? Ha! Anybody who has been in gaming world knows that Sony has had severe heating issues in all early versions of each new Playstation iteration since the early years. That's why despite my loving my ver 1.0 (yes I had an early original that had notorious heat issues) PS1 after having to replace it due to heat related issues WHY I never bought a PS2 and stuck with a PC. I'm considering getting a PS2 now...MAYBE. I have a friend who worked in the Sony console service department back in the early PS2 days that said they had STACKS of dead PS2's lying around everywhere. They consistently get the hardware wrong first and then get it kind of right at about rev 3. It's well known. They have great game support. That's why they make it. They just suck at hardware because they take hot running hardware and don't provide ample cooling. If you know anything about hardware design and proper cooling, open up any Playstation and you'll see what I mean. They don't put the money in to R&D the cases for proper cooling at first because they lose money until the hardware can be lowered in price AND most Playstation gamers will run out the same week their Playstation fails and buy a brand new one. I've known 3 PS2 fanatics that did exactly that.

_Sam_
_Sam_

I hope there aren't major problems

lhardwick692
lhardwick692

when the ps3 is released -sonys sales will triple and pull themselves out of the hole that speculators are trying to say sony is in--sony is a billion dollar company-they know that in order to make money they need to spend money.they know this because this is how they became the huge company they have become.... overheating may or may not be an issue--but the 360 overheats-even with a fan snapped on the back--- i dont look at it as sony will rule again--i say sony still rulesas the ps2 has sold alot more systems than the original xbox and gamecube combined.. i say quit second guessing everything and wait until all next gen systems are out and wait6 months and see what happens..i am a gamer--i will have all three systems before its all said and done

arafay1
arafay1

Sony will rule again........

minos30
minos30

lets do a text analisis. Concentrate on the words that these people use. "While the reason for this is unknown, we "SUSPECT" it "MAY" be due to overheating as a result of..." Gibson said. or here's another one...--------------------------------------------------------------"Despite the report from Macquarie Securities implying that they had "HEARD" of reports of PS3s needing to be rebooted at TGS, SCEI are not aware of..." and the most important part is-------------------------------------------------------"...the PlayStation stand was inundated by specialist gaming media, the majority of whom would have noticed if there had been a general problem with console overheating..." what do you think...

bruno5069
bruno5069

I think PS3 rulesz, cause it can warm up my house in the winter because of its powerfull processors...

Maquis_UK
Maquis_UK

there arent overheating, crashing units in Nintendo consoles, launch or otherwise..! this is called "passing the buck"

nev70
nev70

For what its worth i read an article in a gaming mag a week where they tryed out the PS3 with motorstorm.It was the first time the staff had got hands on with one.First they mention how HEAVY it is then go on to say that its TOTALLY SILENT E.G. NO FAN NOISE...........This was because the ps3 has lots of accoustic absorbing material , hence its massive weight. Well can anybody explain to me how a well ventalated machine will be SILENT ?????? IMO its the accoustic dampning material thats most likely absorbing the heat hence the problem I THINK SONY DOES HAVE A PROBLEM I CANT SEE HOW YOU CAN HAVE A TOTALLY SILENT WELL VENTILATED MACHINE ?

natemilenko
natemilenko

Who cares.. I'm getting 1 and a Wii, i had ps2 for 7 years and i loved it.. it broke.. my friend gave me an xbox and i just don't like it.. call me a sony lover what the f*** ever I dont care.. PS3 i want.. PS3 I get..

standcm12
standcm12

oh no, some PS3 in a plastic box located in an air-less sweaty pit in tokyo running for 10 hours shut down. PS3 is DOOMED!

im2good2ls
im2good2ls

there is always some defective units in first batch of systems

thefjk
thefjk

You know what, this cow's fed up... Sony you can shove the PS3 up your HDTV... I'm sick of this! Bad nuwz everyday... wii for mii!

D_Mainge
D_Mainge

Wow, sony's going downhill.

eggrolls45
eggrolls45

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CaptainCorndog
CaptainCorndog

"THIS IS SUCH OBVIOUS BS! Are you guys so DEPERATE to bash Sony that you would believe a story that requires you to be F***in' RETARDED?????????? If so than you are truly pathetic." You sir, are being truly pathetic, by being truely unrealistic. I'll bet that there will be at least the same rate of "overheating failures" as the 360 had when it was released. Saying that it is "obvious bs" and believing this you're "retarded" stuff makes you look quite lame. Now, i'm asuming you wern't at the convention and you wouldn't know. You believing your ps3mag.com source is really just as stupid as believing gamespot's source. With how the ps3 is currently spiraling downward you think a fanboy magazine will agree with gamespot and or not defend this. Be realistic, please. Just think about this, you have a bigger console filled with more technology and more power. Of course it'll overheat, especially in the hot conditions at the convention. *Sighs* Use logic, not fanboyism please.

champhf
champhf

lol @sony fanboy lol don't get mad ....

GrimBee
GrimBee

lol at encryptkeeper.. good analogy! Mztazmz.. if you want to stop with people doing the fanboy comments, try not sounding like one yourself (dont mean to be mean here ok?). No comments need to stop, this here is the gamespot community, live with it. And nobody who can type is dumb, imo. Idiotic maybe, but not dumb ;) If you want to support your fave console to be, then try promoting it without slating something else.. like another person, or another console. HARDLY ANYONE on gamespot supports the ps3 for what it is, and leaves it at that. ooooh no... they gotta put in stuff like "i want to get the ps3 because its perfect for what i want for a console now, the 360 is a kids console because its less powerful". Oh man, people who say things like that really irritate me. It just OOZES fanboyism. And the YOU HAVE ALL BEEN OWNED also fits nicely into that category, infact, its got a throne in there for words like that. Nobody is desperate to bash sony, if they were, they would just buy everything microsoft and get all their mates xbox 360s, and find many ways to get people to buy m$ stuff. Rather than come on some little website community and say how they feel. Some people feel the need to spout some crap (like me) because its good to get onto a place where people are on the same kind of level. And its good to try and get people on the same level. But when you have the majority of people saying stuff against the ps3.. you cant blame em, because its not like they are making most of the stuff up out of thin air. Call it missleading, call it fanboyism.. it is what it is. I just hate when people make themselves out to be something else like "im not a fanboy, i just think the ps3 sucks". I personally dont want a ps3 YET, because i want to see how it does on the market. Im a gaming addict, so i need my new games. And so the 360 and the wii is for me this christmas. I wasnt going to get the 360, but those titles are becoming better and better each month. All the ps3 has done is given me some doubts, and alot to save for. I love metal gear, but not for $600. Im going to wait for a bit. PLUS, im worried that the price, design, and everything will damage the credibility of the console, and it wont sell as well as the ps2.. meaning it will have LESS games than the competition. And its ALL about games. Most people are moaning on here generally because sony news is always so vague. If YOU owned sony, what would YOU do in this situation? I would pay dozens of people to check every gamign community, and find out the word on the street. And then provide them with the accurate news. Sony however are keeping their cards to their chest. And as gamers, all we have is speculation, worries, and 11 year olds who say stuff like "lakdoweimcps3owfeehjryejfl360osowgwiiiiiiiiiii lol !!" For us, its all we have to do until launch, when gamespot give some reviews etc. And each console manufacturer shows us what its got, and the developers show us the games. Everyone was like this when the psp was coming out and the ds was already out. NOW, the whole "ds sucks" thing has died off, alot, because its proven its point with market domination, hard news and facts, and positive word of mouth. All we have to go on with sony is speculation of yet ANOTHER tried attempt at forcing sony media formats on us, and a very high price. And then the little nuances like no cables, $100 difference for 40gb and some usb ports and a chrome trim.. and the terrible launch effort. It would be a different story if sony had one heck of an e3, and nintendo came out last. And all nintendo had to show was a failing ds, and a console with little positive news. For a community like this, the responses are expected. And gamespot provide the news we ALL want to hear (i mean, STOP POSTING if you dont wanna hear this stuff). gamespot see the up to a thousand or more comments about ps3 bad news, and half that for wii news etc.. so they post up news we respond to the most. Sorry for the long post (again!!). I can see what you mean, I have a good rant here and then, and i think people should stop being so vague as sony is right now. :D

ilcani
ilcani

Wow another small time analyst tells his little story, and Gamespot blows it up to big time news. How original.

encryptkeeper
encryptkeeper

Wow, a PS3 magazine defending the PS3. That's like trusting the information about smoking that comes from the Tobacco Institute.

vjso2
vjso2

Ever since Sony has announced the PS3's price, everything has been going downhill for Sony. Wii and X360 are going to really benefit from all of Sony's problems.

mztazmz
mztazmz

OK this retarded BS that's in 90% of these comments needs to STOP! http://www.psm3mag.com/page/psm3?entry=ps3_does_it_get_hot You've all been OWNED. Some of you are so freakin dumb that it amazes me you can even type! THINK FOR A SECOND. Out of the hundreds of people at the convention, ONLY ONE PERSON(Gibson) NOTICED NUMEROUS PS3's OVERHEATING AND BEING RESET???? For the past year everyone has been trying to find any reason they can to bash Sony and NOBODY ELSE SAW MANY PS3's OVERHEATING????? THIS IS SUCH OBVIOUS BS! Are you guys so DEPERATE to bash Sony that you would believe a story that requires you to be F***in' RETARDED?????????? If so than you are truly pathetic.

mikeeboy555
mikeeboy555

SONY IS DOOMED TO FAIL IF THE PS#3 LAUNCH DOES NOT GO OFF WITHOUT A HITCH .

classic_rocker
classic_rocker

lots o ppl got lots 2 say! but it can be expected as we surely can c that the 360 and ps2 had these problems in the begining. if there is a problem no worrries its happened 2 everyone and if there isnt then give sony a round of applause...

encryptkeeper
encryptkeeper

Wiso...have you read the opinions of people who have played the two systems (PS3 and Wii)? It's not just the bad news the media is publishing about Sony, the end users just like the Wii better. Do some searching on the web from this year's E3, or the TGS game show where the systems were overheating. I don't care if it's a Kia or a Jaguar, if you take a test drive, and the car cuts off on you, you won't buy it. And you'll tell anyone you know who's thinking of buying a car to stay away from the car company that had the car that cut off on you. The negative press and the lukewarm opinions of the PS3 are really going to hurt Sony, and elevate Nintendo. Especially in Japan.

Benshki
Benshki

Im not sure how to say this but ill try my best, my 360 has been fine since the day i got it. By this i mean ive had no over heating whats so ever so it would leave me to believe that over heating could be due to the continant that your living in and the natural weather temperature you are in? Surely this can change the temp of a computer console surely? The TGS show was jam packed of sweating bodies and millions of electronic eqiupment and applications could this also not be a factor due to overheating, im sure ive read somewhere that the TGS show itself had NO ventilation whats so ever. Im not sticking up for either Sony or Microsoft, i like the competition im just trying to see the over heating factor from a different point of view other then the consoles power ability...your thoughts?

remmbermytitans
remmbermytitans

well if these reports are true, it would mean that not only do the 360's overheat, but the PS3's do too.... now, i've seen my friend (who has a 360 that overheats) get VERY angry when he's playing either CoD2, or need for speed, and the 360 overheats..... so i can only imagine the sony fans, when after a whole year of making fun of people with 360's, and the fact that they overheat, having the PS3's overheat... lucky for me, im getting a Wii... :)

encryptkeeper
encryptkeeper

And don't tout better grarphics on the PS3 and XBOX 360. The PSP vs the DS is proof that better graphics don't guarantee a better system, but new ways to play games is a turn that the gaming community wants to take. If you think the Wii can't at the very least hold it's own against the other two, you'd better look at the sales numbers of the PSP and DS and think again. End of story.

encryptkeeper
encryptkeeper

Why do people like RagingBull2584 get so defensive in forums like this? Look dude the bottom line is that without having a strong start they will struggle through this whole generation of console gaming. If you think about the advantages of each system realistically AND its disadvantages they really will probably overall compete with each other very well. We may see a very even market share on all three, and really thats what we want. The closer they are in competition, the harder they'll work to get our business. That's why monopolys are illegal, to keep one company from dominating and area and stifling growth and new ideas. As anti Sony and anti Microsoft as I am, we should all be glad if all of the console makers realize they have to work their asses off to get ahead, which means we get better games and more competitive prices. The bad thing here is that Sony was so far ahead with the PS3 they have obviously gotten very overconfident and may screw themselves over.

Sergsky
Sergsky

Of course they are denying it. But I am waiting at least six or 9 months to get mine. Remember all the problems on the first batch of PS2s? Well, maybe not in America, but in Japan there were many, and six months later when the ps2 was released on this side of the Pacific problems were already solved. Also, most first generation games suck, regardless of console. That is why I still haven't bought an Xbox360. Being hardcore doesn't mean being stupid.

champhf
champhf

i feel that the wii is a nice game console but please stop calling it next gen.... it is an improvment on nintendo's last system now the next system nintendo puts out after the wii needs to be a next gen or they will be screwed. microsoft will be laughing all the way to the bank this christmas. now sony has a huge problem they need to start fireing some people over at that company. why did they not think that all these things cramed in this small unit won't overheat????? i read where someone said that sony made alot of sales on the ps2 on people who had to re buy there systems because of disk errors and crashes any you know what?? now that i think about it!!! i know this is true because they were getting sued at one point. i feel sony will release it regardless of flaws and see what happens but these systems will not be tested since we are 2 months from the holiday season and production is just kicking off. i would not want to be the first one to spend $600 just to bring it back because it crashes......i will be getting my xbox 360 followed by a nintendo wii and a ps3 after a price drop lol.

RagingBull2584
RagingBull2584

OK PEOPLE I HAVE TO GET ALL THIS OFF MY CHEST THAT IVE BEEN WANTING TO GET OFF MY CHEST EVER SINCE THE 360/PS3 WAS ANNOUNCED. IT REALLY AMAZES ME HOW PEOPLE ARE SO ANTI PS3, I MEAN SERIOUSLY, , THE PS3 IS GOING TO LITERALLY GOING TO BE GROUNDBREAKING, IT OFFERS THE CELL TECHNOLOGY, FREE ONLINE SERVICE, UNPARALLED GRAPHICS, AWESOME LIBRARY OF GAMES, SO WHAT IF THEY ANNOUNCED A LAUNCH DELAY?! BIG DEAL, IT WILL STILL BE A AWESOME CONSOLE TO SAY THE LEAST. I DONT SEE WHY THE 360 IS SO LOVED, HONESTLY THE GRAPHICS ARENT THAT GREAT, I MEAN SURE GEARS OF WAR LOOKS AMAZING, BUT THATS IT... THATS THE ONLY GAME I HAVE SEEN THAT REALLY AMAZED ME, OTHER THAN THAT, ALL OTHER 360 GAMES LOOK LIKE REHASHED XBOX GAMES WITH A COAT OF PAINT ON THEM. THE 360 BRINGS NOTHING NEW TO THE TABLE WHATSOEVER. I MEAN THE GAMES AND FACTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES PEOPLE, WHEN E3 2005 WAS HERE, WE ALL DOUBTED PS3 SAYING ALL THE GAMES THEY SHOWED WHERE BS AND THERE WAS NO WAY GAMES CAN LOOK THAT AMAZING, WELL GUESS WHAT PEOPLE. THE PS3 LAUNCH IS ONE MONTH AWAY AND WE HAVE SEEN ACTUAL GAMEPLAY FOOTAGE OF ACTUAL PS3 GAMES SUCH AS RESISTANCE AND MOTORSTORM AND I MUST SAY I AM VERY VERY AMAZED, SONY SEEMS TO BE DELIVERING 110% ON WHAT THEY PROMISED BACK IN E3 2005 AND THAT TO ME IS QUITE AN ACOMPLISHMENT. SO ONCE MORE LETS RUN DOWN THE FACTS. OK FIRST THE PS3.. FREE ONLINE SERVICE, CELL PROCESSOR, BLU RAY DISCS, 1080P SUPPORT, HDMI, AWESOME LIBRARY OF SONY EXCLUSIVE GAMES, MOTION SENSING CONTROLLER, HIGHLY AMAZING GRAPHICS, BLUETOOTH WIRELESS CONTROLLER, SONY EXCLUSIVE GAMES SUCH AS GT,DEVIL MAY CRY, METAL GEAR SOLID, RESISTANCE ETC. AND NOW THE 360...WIRELESS CONTROLLER, STILL THE SAME OLE DVD FORMAT FOR GAMES, NO HDMI, NO MOTION SENSING CONTROLLER, LIBRARY OF GAMES NOT THAT IMPRESSIVE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF GEARS OF WAR, ONLY 720P SUPPORT. NOW WHEN YOU COMPARE ALL THAT, WE ALL KNOW GOOD AND WELL THE PS3 IS GOING TO BLOW THE 360 OUT OF THE WATER BASICALLY WHAT IM WONDERING IS WHY PEOPLE ARE SO ANTI SONY AND ANTI PS3, AM I MISSING SOMETHING?!? I MEAN SERIOULSY, YOU PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE PS3 LIKE ITS A DEATH PLAGUE AND ITS GOING TO BE SO HORRIBLE, THE PS3 WILL BE THE SYSTEM TO OWN HANDS DOWN BECAUSE LETS FACE IT, NINTENDO LOST GROUND SINCE THE GAMECUBE. SO REALLY ITS DOWN TO PS3 AND 360 AND WHEN YOU MAKE THOSE KIND OF COMPARRISONS, PS3 WILL DOMINATE HANDS DOWN.

encryptkeeper
encryptkeeper

Ah yes, now I remember seeing someone play one while I was a senior in high school. Dreamcast was released first. But like the PS3, it's just waaaaaay ahead of it's time, and that's only part of why Sony will lose the crown of the console war.

wild_world_girl
wild_world_girl

Pualio12 "Once the ps3 is released we will see which one is better. 360? or Ps3?. " I'd say we won't be able to properly make that determination until the PS4/Xbox720 comes out.

SapSacPrime
SapSacPrime

Bluray players (stand alone ones) cost twice what a ps3 does alone, I think it is safe to say Sony is taking a big loss Game-o_O... And the DC launched in 1999, I guess you were still in nappies and can't remember maybe? shame it was a good little console for its short time with us.

encryptkeeper
encryptkeeper

Sony isn't selling the PS3 at a loss??? Are you out of your MIND? With low yeilds on the processors and blue laser diodes, do you REALLY think they are making anything off of console sales? Wait, yes you are insane. Sega Dreamcast is closer to the PS2 generation than the saturn. And the Saturn bombed out BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG time.

Game-o_O
Game-o_O

encryptkeeper: Sony isn't selling the PS3 at a lost, that is the 360 your thinking of., and who ever said I was waiting for a price drop? :) On, and Sony didn't start the current-gen; Sega Saturn anyone? 1999

encryptkeeper
encryptkeeper

Warning to all PS3 buyers. Don't expect a price drop for a *very* long time. It is very doubtful that after all of these problems Sony will be willing to take more losses on PS3s than they already are.