Sony: Elder Scrolls Online not originally planned for consoles

SCEA VP Adam Boyes says Bethesda's upcoming MMO game was not originally conceived for release on consoles.

Upcoming massively multiplayer online role-playing game The Elder Scrolls Online was not originally conceived for consoles, according to Sony.

Adam Boyes, VP of publisher and developer relations at SCEA, told Game Informer that a console version of the online game was born after Sony and Bethesda met on numerous occasions to discuss the idea.

"That game was never planned to come to consoles," Boyes said. "And we just kind of kept sitting with [Bethesda] and being like, 'Why not?'"

"They're like, 'We're not planning it,'" he added. "And I'm like, 'Well, what if we built a plan that we could do that?'"

If it was Sony that originally sparked Bethesda's interest in bringing The Elder Scrolls Online to consoles, that enthusiasm also spread to Microsoft, as the game will be released on the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One in 2014.

However the console version came to be, Boyes said it is exciting all the same to see Bethesda adjust its mindset regarding release plans for the game.

"Knowing that a game's coming to console that was never going to come to console, that's the kind of stuff that is, like, 'Yes!' You know, hugely awesome," Boyes said.

The Elder Scrolls Online launches in 2014 for the Xbox One, PS4, and PC. The game will carry a $15/month subscription fee. Xbox One and PS4 players will also need to pay for Xbox Live and PlayStation Plus to access the game. Bethesda previously said it is "pushing" Microsoft to drop this requirement on the Xbox One.

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dominicplombier
dominicplombier

the game interface will be totally differant from the pc and the console version. to make the game more easy to play on console they wont release the same interface because gamepad have few button to setup all the casting and attacks. you will be able to cast or do special move as you supposed to do be. like if you are behind a ennemy it will be possible to make a move by pressing x or y but if you are far you will be able to make other moves. on pc version it will stay as it supposed to be more complex and posiblity for programmer to make there own interface like in world of warcraft. so dont worry they wont simplify the game for pc because they release console version.

gastec
gastec

The gameplay has been changed, watch the QuakeCon demo presentation. But it's changes are not an the good side for me, the combat is NOTHING like you see in this film. The targets are highlighted with colored bright contours/auras(red, white) that look very ugly and immersion breaking, the character animations in combat are VERY ugly, not like in Skyrim at all - the combatants cover to much distance in too few moves, they look to be more like "phasing" than stepping, in general the combat moves are too fast. To me it's a step backwards and a great disappointment. I can only hope that it can be "fixed", at least for the PC version of the game.

djwood84
djwood84

FFXIV gives you like 8 slots of 16 hotbar buttons that are easily controlled with a PS3 controller.  People should stop saying you can't do this on a console, it can and will be pulled off without a problem.  Modifier keys (L2, R2) give you an insane amount of button combinations.  

edinko
edinko

THe game will be crippled to be playable with a pad and a lack of buttons. You cant even type text properly which is a little bit terrible for an MMO.

So the game must be compromised and butchered for the few buttons and clunky controls on the ps4 /xbone.

In other words. It will be dumbed down

diamonddave1984
diamonddave1984

hmm lets see.. 60 bucks for the actual game, 50 bucks for ps plus for a year, 180 bucks for the sub fee for a year so.. 290 bucks all together?  yeah ill pass guys

kyletoker
kyletoker

i want to know how the hotbar will work and be different on consoles still.... i dont think theyve even got that far they always show pc gameplay for obvious reasons

PaladinPaterson
PaladinPaterson

Hmmmmmmmmmm... never would've guessed that even though the release date for the game was pushed back after the console version announcement :D


Moegitto
Moegitto

It's not going to last, no console player will pay the subscription fee for too long if at all. Especially if Destiny and The Division doesn't have a sub fee.

On another note, was there no Skyrim Mod's of the week this week?

rene9ade520
rene9ade520

I hope it feels like Elder Scrolls and less like all these other lame MMORPGs like WOW. One thing I've always loved about Elder Scrolls is all the exploration and non-combat related stuff. Already the fact that you can not own houses is a downer. I hope I can still steel like crazy, harvest food, and have the same level of trade system. ...guess I'll probably wait to see how this one plays out before I go buying it.

vadagar1
vadagar1

the only thing that will make me NOT buy this game


is flying fucking mounts 

vadagar1
vadagar1

omfg the combat looks awesome 

vadagar1
vadagar1

if its better than wow... then im game 

BLaverock
BLaverock

Are people stupid? There's nothing wrong with a monthly fee for an MMO. MMO's are constantly evolving, which necessitates continuous updates, patches, and expansions. You think 60 bucks is going to pay staff to stay in their offices months and years after the initial release, to work on updates, patches and expansions? They're not doing it for free, even if they love what they do. They need money to live. Jesus--people are willing to drop 60 bucks on an 8 hour game but have a meltdown when they have to pay on a monthly basis even when that allots them a whopping 720 hours of potential gameplay per month! Grow up you babies.

6orange6
6orange6

lot of comments from MMO fans about this is the cost of this kind of gaming.

OK, compare an MMO with a $15 monthly fee against GTA V. That is arguably as big as some of the better MMO's in terms of world and detail. 

And if support is costing $15 a month then the product is not fit to be described as anything but beta. 

Games should stand on their own two feet without needing to make phone calls or email exchanges every day.

Riverwolf007
Riverwolf007

i hate stories that feature huge plotholes.

why would sony not port one of the everquests over to ps4?

they could have filled a niche in their lineup AND gotten that $15 per month.

why go after elderscrolls.

the only thing i can think of is everquest next will come to ps4 and having an mmo on there with a sub fee will make a free to play more appealing. 

TodoBond6
TodoBond6

15$ /month + 60$ game = forget it Bethesda

fenriz275
fenriz275

Seems like every time I read a new update about this game I look forward to it less. Oh well that'll be $15 a month I can keep in my pocket.

BravelyRanAway
BravelyRanAway

I was looking forward to this one but not for $15 a month plus the PS+ online fee and cost of the game.  There's way to many other games coming out for next gen to compete for people's time and money to have a monthly charge of $15.    

Couldn't they offer a one time subscription fee or a 12 month sub. for discounted price instead of punching you in the nuts every month for $15 after you've already bought their game.

AlexFili
AlexFili

You'd think they could just get a subsidy from Sony/Microsoft to lower the cost for people that are already subscribing to premium services as it is

keech
keech

It requires PS+ or Xbox Gold to play on consoles, on top of a monthly fee?  That may very well of put the console version of the game in a coffin.  If I even end up playing this, it will surely be for PC for that reason alone.

SgtSilock
SgtSilock

Great, so now that we know this means the interface is going to be clunky as hell because it wasn't built with the console in mind. Yeah they could rebuild the UI from scratch for the consoles, but they won't trust me. 

Xenro4
Xenro4

Make it 5-10 bucks a month or buy to play and everybody wins.

Vodoo
Vodoo

This game looks like shit! I hope that kind of quality is for the 360/ps3. Because a next gen console game shouldn't look anywhere near that bad. And they want money for this??? 

Good job Sony, making Bethesda waste resources on shit that very few console owners will subscribe to. I hope your gonna give them back all the time and money they're gonna lose on this! There's a reason that it was planned for pc only. 

Sony thought they were slick and this was gonna be exclusive to them. I wish it were because it looks like trash. And no, I haven't played it, but if their normal retail games are loaded with glitches and bugs, I can only imagine how this is gonna turn out.

cyclonebw
cyclonebw

@BLaverock 

I think a monthly fee is justified.  However I do not think $15 is.  The number comes from other games getting away with charging this so they feel they can, and they will.  Which is too bad.

JASAEric
JASAEric

@BLaverock Are people stupid?  Do they really think they get enough content to justify $15 per month?  You get a couple quests/items/whatever every few months.  If the game was free to play, would you pay an extra $60 every 4 months for a handful of quests?  Remember these aren't full expansions, these are small updates.  Bug fixes/balance are expected with every game release, and server costs are negligible now.

They do this because they know brainless fanboys will defend them to the death over their "costs".  I do not have a problem with a game being subscription based, but $15 is stupid, $5 would be a lot more reasonable (and still overpriced, based on the content you get).

However trying to reason to idiot fanboys is pointless.  So enjoy overpaying for this, this game will set a new record for fastest drop to F2P, because of the huge failure it will be on consoles.

pal_080
pal_080

@BLaverock   I'm sorry but $15 a month, with a starting price tag of $60 (well over that in many countries), as well as another $5 a month for Gold/Plus... is rather expensive, for any kind of game.

And MMO's only really have so much play time out of necessity to actually get to the fun portions of the game, or stay competitive in PvP,  they aren't exactly fun on a moment to moment basis for a lot of people.

jaxon101
jaxon101

@6orange6 ummmm gta comparable to an mmo = never. not nearly as big as any mmo unless you count wizard 101. and not nearly as long. so in the future please limit comments to somethign you know what you're talking about.

BLaverock
BLaverock

@6orange6 you don't know what you're talking about. That "support" you mentioned includes a helluva lot more than "phone calls or emails." Try updates, patches, new content, and in-game changes. With GTA V, there's nothing new added after its release; no new missions, no new cars, no new areas. 

In contrast, take WoW as an example; new areas, new quests, new gear and weapons, changes to combat, pet battles, mounts, new areas including Outland, Northrend, Pandaria, etc. Meanwhile, go ahead and play GTA V and unlock all the achievements in a set number of hours. But you can never do that with WoW because there's too many, and more and more are being added. If you don't want to pay for that, then don't. But don't complain or suggest that it's unfair. You can't expect the people who produce MMOs to work for free.

OneFan
OneFan

@TodoBond6 Seriously? It's an MMO. If you don't pay a monthly fee then they are milking you for micro transactions. Grow up and realize games don't make themselves. 

OneFan
OneFan

@keech Like you don't already have XBOX live or PS+... Some people need to grow up. 

xeoneex66
xeoneex66

@SgtSilock Cause yhou totally read their minds over the interwebz and can predict the future?  No?  hmm.....

xeoneex66
xeoneex66

@Xenro4 Pay to Win is ruining the MMO world.  No thanks.  Keep it the way it has been since MMO's were first introduced thank you very much.

Snowx1
Snowx1

@Vodoo Errr..that damn NDA.. I can't say nothing =/. All is not what it appears:). I can't say anything else... RAWRR ;p.  

allever
allever

@Vodoo The only one responsible for Bethesda's decision IS Bethesda. 

komuchen
komuchen

@Vodoo I agree, this game looks like shit... and shits on TES at the same time.

And waste resources? Bethesda? You know that Zenimax Online is developing it, right? And very few? How do you know that? It will sell, especially IF they will convince MS to drop xlive fee for it. That can be deal breaker and  Sony probably will think about droping fee's too.

And why exclusive? You know you must pay for that, right? No pinky swear?

Dentonj1285
Dentonj1285

@cyclonebw @BLaverock Either way am not buying it, severly disappointed this is the route Eldar Scrolls has taken. For me it is a single player game. I also don't have the time to dedicate to any MMO, nor have I managed to maintain any form of dedication to one, as I have always found them repetitive and dull.

Noonewarrior
Noonewarrior

@JASAEric @BLaverock $5x20k people(example) $100,000per month and If they manage to get up to 1mil subs thats $5,000,000 per month, so thats reasonable. Now if you look at what they are planning $15 per month $15x20k = $300,000 or $15x1mil =$15,000,000 per month, now who's greedy

jaxon101
jaxon101

@pal_080 @BLaverock  one thing that isn't being brought up is that most gamers will be playing online with other games so factoring in the expense of gold or plus into one game is kind of misleading don't you think? not to mention the developers aren't getting money from your gold or plus membership. the console manufacturers are.

TodoBond6
TodoBond6

@OneFan @TodoBond6I'm not against paying, I'm against paying twice just in different formats. Guild Wars and Old Republic do not do this anymore.

Also, 15$/month is 180$/year = 3 new games (60$ a game). I fail to see how they'll deliver enough "new content" to justify this price.
Micro-transactions seem fine to me, I never buy those things anyway.
Cheers

pal_080
pal_080

@OneFan  Ever heard of Guild Wars 2?  The most fun MMO I've ever played, no monthly fee, no advantageous (pay-to-win) micro-transactions,  mostly things that can help you level and customize your character (though leveling is actually fun in this game).

keech
keech

@OneFan @keech I have zero intention of continuing my Gold subscription after it runs out in October actually.  I use it less and less, especially since 90% of what Gold offers can be done on a PC for free (without the absurd amount of shameless advertising).  

I actually explicitly said I would get it for the PC because I never have to be worried about not being able to play it if I let my PS+ or Xbox Gold subscription lapse.

xeoneex66
xeoneex66

@OneFan @keech Actually I don't have an xbox live account anymore because I refuse to give Micri$hits anymore money.  They fucked up with the xbox done fiasco.  He has a good point YOU need to grow up son.

garrybubba
garrybubba

@xeoneex66 @Xenro4 Its not Pay to Win, Its Pay to Play. Think you got your terms mixed up there. You aren't buying items, abilities or any kind of advantage, its a subscription fee to play the game and the reason I won't be playing it :(

cyclonebw
cyclonebw

@pal_080 @OneFan 

I exchanged gems for money and then used the money on skills solely and went from lv10 to lv30.  Just because of micro-transactions.  It's broke.

MXVIII
MXVIII

@pal_080 @OneFan  Yeah but you look the same as everyone else, which now WoW does, but used to be you could find really cool looking gear and make your character how you wanted to look, in GW anything that makes you look cool or unique you have to pay for. They are always going to make their money off you somehow.