Smash Bros. for Wii U, 3DS may need change of direction, says dev

Masahiro Sakurai explains beefing up the roster may lead to balance issues; says Nintendo and Namco Bandai instead looking at new ideas for franchise.

The next entry in Nintendo's Smash Bros. fighting franchise may move in a new direction. Speaking to Nintendo Power (via Nintendo Everything), franchise designer Masahiro Sakurai explained that he feels simply adding new characters will not enhance the experience and that a more dramatic overhaul may be required.

What new direction might the Smash Bros. series take?

"It isn't a matter of 'if the next game has 50 characters, that'll be enough,'" he said. "There is a certain charm to games that have huge casts of playable characters, but they tend to have issues with game balance and it becomes very difficult to fine-tune each character and have them all feel distinctive…In terms of quantity, we've probably already reached the limit of what's feasible. I think a change of direction may be what's needed."

Last month, Nintendo revealed that it had tapped Namco Bandai to develop the new Smash Bros. game for the Wii U and 3DS. Sakurai is helming the project, with Namco Bandai developers Masaya Kobayashi (Ridge Racer series) and Yoshito Higuchi (Tales series) involved as producer and director, respectively.

Nintendo officially announced the new Smash Bros. game during its 2011 Electronic Entertainment Expo media briefing. The Wii U and 3DS versions of the game will work together on both platforms "in some fashion," Nintendo said at the time.

For more on the Nintendo-Namco Bandai collaboration on the new Smash Bros. game, check out GameSpot's feature story on the matter.

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vexxouds
vexxouds

Can you put Alucard and Richter from Castlevania symphony of the night in the game.

plus Kazuya from Tekken and Akuma or Ryu from Street Fighter that whould be so cool!!

18salerj1219
18salerj1219

I am so excited this is the sort of thing I have been waiting for ever since I play Super Smash Bros. Brawl for the wii. Honestly I am super obsessed with Rhythm Thief and think it would be awesome if Phantom R could be in this game. (Not like that is gonna happen :( Which is a bummer.) It would be cool and I agree with Metroplex300 that they should allow you to use the miis as characters! I don't think they should get rid of any of the characters they used in the previous game. They're all great. I personally perfer the pokemon based characters and Pit. I just like a game like this if there is at least one of my favorite characters and a new one to keep things interesting. I will be waiting for this to come out! :)

Metroplex300
Metroplex300

They need to make the level editing more creative like little big planets level making so you could take pictures, shape blocks how you want, choose colours, choose game theme like a bunch of mario blocks with power ups and items and you could choose your character to test the stage and play multiplayer testing, also the should add machine items to make blocks move, grow, shrink, rise up, fall down. They should also add spikes that appear and disappear like the spikes on sonic the hedgehog. They should also add a racing mode so you can...you know...race and use power ups to beat others on wifi, so it's like 2d Mario kart but without the karts. With customising you should add taunt making, mii characters, characters you can make on brawl so you could make sonic wear marios hat. You should have skins on characters like instead of change marios colour you can make him cosmic Mario and super sunshine Mario or the N64 Mario, and sonic into metal sonic or wolf sonic and classic sonic. One more thing, they need to add custom moves for characters, like pokemon, you can unlock new moves like sonic can have homing attack and change it to a boost attack from sonic unleashed. And you can download new content FOR FREE online. Those are some custom features I think they should add to the game, oh and you can change final smashes like super sonic changed to wolf sonic. Samuel Bland :) (sonic forever!!!)

inso-maniac
inso-maniac

i want 5 different marios, 3 luigis, pikachu ryachu jiggly puff and wiggly puff i want as many rehashes as nintendo can do. its a unique feature in my opinion.  if nintendo does  any rehashes im not getting this

CHURROMAISW
CHURROMAISW

keep Ness and Pikachu and bring back Dr. Mario!!

deathreaper180
deathreaper180

Keep Ness and Pikachu. Those are the only characters I need. Plus I hate it when they take out character that have been there forever like they did with Soul Calibur 5

Oneeyeddoll666
Oneeyeddoll666

Even though it's believed that there won't be too many gameplay changes, I still hope that they'll bring hitstun back allowing true combos like in all the other smash bros games. 

killmen21
killmen21

i really dont care about new characters, but itd be nice if theyd give sperate move sets to the ones they have now instead of half the characters move sets being ripped from another character

SargeWW11
SargeWW11

If Namco is making it, im excpecting Pac Man. But I understand that too many 3rd party characters would ruin the Nintendo purpose. And whats with the Playstation Allstars game? Thats just a fail PS version of Smash Bros. Sorry, but its true.

EnoDaed321123
EnoDaed321123

I always think its funny when a gaming company acts like, " its new characters and we screw up everything about the game mechanics, or we fine tune the game mechanics and no new characters" they act like they cant do some work on the game and add new characters, here's the real truth of what they're doing: "Well.....we are definitley way too lazy to come up with new characters and move sets and voices and everything else in between so we're just going to pretend like we are doing a major update in combat, maybe add some new shiny gimmicks to get fans to shut up, and see how it goes".  You would think that if they're that good they would'nt have to put every one of their eggs in one basket.

thingta42
thingta42

It's obvious the series main characters will be in the game. It's like having a naruto fighting game without Naruto, sasuke, sakura and kakashi. Everyone knows that those four characters will be included. Even if they haven't been confirmed. it's obvious people should expect Mario, link, samus, donkey kong, kirby.

guitarguy3349
guitarguy3349

i think they could change the pokemon trainer's name to whoever the character is suppose to resemble. i thought it was ash but idk, im not a big pokemon fan(i watched the series in the 90's when i was a kid). they could add another pokemon trainer as well and then you could control different pokemon. the only 2 other pokemon trainers i know from heart would be brock or misty. maybe they could use team rocket.

ChudWarrior
ChudWarrior

Melee on the gamecube is undoubtedly the better game. They should try and re-create something closer to that rather than try and take the game in a new direction. What direction could you possibly take it in and still have it remain a true Smash bros.  game? I'm thinking maybe a more extensive adventure mode and character specific adventure modes to add more depth. As well as bigger more interesting maps. Melee is awesome, but every time I play with friends we tend to play at the Hyrule Temple Map 60% of the time because of its size. Maps that size and bigger with more than 4 people able to play at a time would be more than enough to satisfy. Also what is this BS about not wanting to add too many characters? Who cares if some characters are slightly unbalanced and more difficult to use? That's half the fun. They should have all the characters from all the previous games and then some. To leave any of previous characters out would not be progress. I want to play as all the Pokemon dammit, not Ash! Having a wide variety of characters is just as appealing, if not more so, than a questionable new direction. More characters mean more appeal to a much larger audience. There is a reason when it comes to games like this characters lists are googled so often. In many case it can be the difference between buying the game and not buying the game. Altering the game too much is just going to morph it into something it's not meant to be. It's a simple game, and that is why it's so much fun.

waZelda
waZelda

Collaborations are always interesting, because you don't know quite to expect and whether it will be a good step forward or a collossal failure.

 

I choose to be cautiously optimistic.

FoppyOmega
FoppyOmega

The point of this article is that they don't just want to add a ton more characters. They're looking for new ideas and concepts to push the game's limits further.

 

So why is everyone just replying with "yeah, they should add characters from ___!!"

Did we miss the point?

armedvigilante
armedvigilante

i LOVE smash bros game melee was amazing brawl was pretty good. but im not wasting money on a wii u to play the new one. i have a 3ds so maybe ill finally charge it and get a game for it....

LilMike95
LilMike95

The whole changing things up sounds great.

I think they should have us vote for the top characters that should be on the game and then we can find out which ones made the cut when the game comes out

soulless4now
soulless4now

Change is always good. Would be nice if they threw in some fighters from Namco's roster as bonuses. 

GeneralConker
GeneralConker

I'm kinda glad they're taking the game in a different direction.  Maybe that'll mean different playstyles for each character. What I hope for, and probably everyone else, is no more copies. 

The number one toon I hope for is  a 'Majora's Mask' Link, in which he'd be able to switch out between the Deku, Zora, and Goron masks. (Think Pokemon Trainer.) 

scoobdog02
scoobdog02

Please do away with Toon Link and replace him with Skull Kid or someone else from that series.

Change all Starfox character movesets, except Fox, and add Krystal.

Add DAISY!

Add Rosalina!

Add Dixie Kong!

Add Birdo!

Add King K. Rool!

Add Bowser Jr!

Fix Meta Knight!

Fix Ganondorf (Give him a **** sword)!

NAMCO BANDAI: NO CHARACTERS FROM ANY OTHER FIGHTING GAMES! Tales characters could be interesting though.

PLEASE NO TRIPPING!

Add more Pit characters, Phosphora?

Add new legendary Pokemon, Zoroark?

Change Pokemon trainer's pokemon.

Add a friend (or enemy) for Samus. NOT RIDLEY! OR A COPY!

Get rid of assist trophies and add most as characters. (Waluigi, Lyn, Isaac...)

NO. MORE. COPIES!

I'm sure Lucario, Snake and Sonic will be gone, so with all these changes, it gives us roughly 46 characters. 

 

Reasonable?

IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH DAISY, LOOK AT MY PAGE, I HAVE AN ENTIRE MOVESET FOR HER. 

TheBlackEclipse
TheBlackEclipse

They could have 300 characters for all I care, it's still not going to be half as good as Melee.

Sniper-Gamer
Sniper-Gamer

While it would be nice to have more characters, I agree that the next SSB must be better balanced. Too many characters were either underpowered or overpowered in Brawl. The most balanced SSB had to be the original. You felt like every character could win a match.

darkfiercelink
darkfiercelink

Hopefully it will surpass the previous one, can't wait <3

Autony
Autony

If a game is fun for you play it, if not don't. None of you are being forced to play or buy a video game. Depending on your own circumstances, but I don't want to get into that.

firstclassgamer
firstclassgamer

Whatever, Im going to buy it anyway, I just got tired of Brawl faster than Melee

gvdude1
gvdude1

i dont care what they do to it, super smash bros is still one of the best franchises of all time

 

SHROOM-4
SHROOM-4

I LOVE ICE CLIMBER CANT WAIT FOR IT

Vickman178
Vickman178

If you don't like Smash Bros don't buy it. All the people whining about it needing to have combo systems and all the other BS just get out because this game is not for you then.

Flint247
Flint247

I would like balance and better online.

Yalaa1
Yalaa1

I love SSB ever since the N64, change can be nice if they handle it right and keep it fun also i hope they add a nice story mode.

adrama
adrama

Im all for balancing but i hope they dont change any of the core gameplay elements of SSB on on the wii u or 3ds. Not saying i dislike change but major changes should be reserved for games that arent so popular and need a good boost. Minor changes would work better for an extremely popular game that sells quite well or one that generaly achieves good ratings such as the SSB series of games. What happens if u take a good game, take away some elements and add some others that are newer but dont work as well and u tarnish a good series reputation. Remember DMC 2?

Birth00
Birth00

To stay on topic, I would be perfectly content with the same formula except bigger (more caracters, modes, levels) and a great online MP. Give me that and I'll play this game forever.

Birth00
Birth00

Despite what everyone says, I always though each caracters were balanced even though some are harder to play with then others. In the hands of a competent player, they are all very good.

harold317
harold317

I think Nintendo is trying to be as classy as possible, they probably acknowledge that Sony is cloning their game, so they are probably like "fine, feel free to clone our old game, we will evolve it into something better, so you can clone this for the sequel of your game too"...I'm really hoping for this scenario to happen, haha.

notserbamma
notserbamma

What the heck are you children whining about?

 

a) if u think smash bros is a masher, u must be awful

 

3) u have an option to change the mode to HP's that drop to zero, (ie: like a Life Bar) where u simply fall to the ground and die like a regular fighter, but after playing the mode once, you see that it sucks and doesnt fit smash bros at all

 

#) stop comparing smash bros to reg fighters...The mechanics in smash were never meant to cater to fans of games like tekken or SF

 

and finally....

 

W) The entire Smash Bros series is a game built almost SOLELY on your ability to land perfectly timed smash attacks. The depth in the fighting comes from when and where you use the 3 different tiers of attacks (weak,mid,smash) as well as knowing when to toss in a special attack, dodges/blocks or use an item to your advantage. It's about taking advantage of open opportunities and chipping away at your opponent until you're able to launch them across the screen (preferably with a HOMERUN BAT). If you suck at the game, don't complain about the game itself sucking.

 

LordWaffleKing
LordWaffleKing

 @SargeWW11You don't like Sony Smash Sisters? But it's totally unique and creative. No one has ever done anything like it. Just like the Move. How does Sony come up with this stuff? And the Vita's touch screen. Mind-boggling, isn't it? Those guys at Sony are creative geniuses.

 

FoppyOmega
FoppyOmega

 @TheBlackEclipse Melee is one of the greatest games ever made, but c'mon man. Have some faith that one day we can achieve greater.

-Shadowbinded-
-Shadowbinded-

 @gvdude1 You should care what they do to it.  I agree that it's one of the best franchises, but sadly that doesn't mean it's future entries will all be perfect... They still have a chance of messing up (hopefully, it will be just as perfect, though)

firstclassgamer
firstclassgamer

 @SHROOM-4 I do have to admit I hated Ice  Climbers in Brawl but they were epic n melee Idk the way they played in Brawl just felt so different 

Hail23
Hail23

 @Vickman178 all of smash bros is about combos/finishes, quick/power only way someone could say smash bros sucks is  that they suck at playing the game. :P

McGuyverBR
McGuyverBR

 @adrama And Waht Happens when you take a great game, keep doing sequences and don't change or evolve nothing? Remember Guitar Hero?

Changes are always welcome but if (and only IF) the final product is good for the fans

tyco_ex
tyco_ex

 @McGuyverBR The best thing to do in this instance is to stop making the freaking games and get on with other franchises. Game series don't HAVE to last forever. If the game is stale let it die and make something else.

yang4200
yang4200

 @tyco_ex this is Nintendo.  They like selling us the same franchises over and over again.  I think pikman was their last new Ip that they came out with in a long time.

 

-Shadowbinded-
-Shadowbinded-

 @tyco_ex If you don't like the game, don't buy it :)

 

Go post hater comments elsewhere.