Red Dead Redemption: Legends and Killers DLC Hands-On

Redemption's first paid-for DLC pack adds nine multiplayer maps, eight characters, and the deadly tomahawk.

Legends and Killers is Red Dead Redemption's first instalment of paid-for downloadable content, part of the four-pack of DLC outlined by Rockstar in early July. In contrast to June's free Outlaws to the End DLC, which focused on cooperative missions, Legends and Killers is entirely about multiplayer; the pack comprises nine multiplayer maps, eight multiplayer characters, and the tomahawk throwing weapon.

Legends and Killers rides in on August 10.

Among the locations opened up for competitive multiplayer by this DLC are New Austin locations Rio Bravo, Fort Mercer, and Thieves' Landing, plus Tall Trees and Blackwater in West Elizabeth, and Escalera in Nuevo Paraiso, each of which we played in for our preview. The new multiplayer characters have been drafted in from Red Dead Revolver, the 2004 predecessor to Redemption; these are Red Harlow, Pig Josh, Mr Kelley, Annie Stoakes, Shadow Wolf, Ugly Chris, Buffalo Soldier, and Jack Swift. Of these, we saw only Red Harlow, he of the pointy beard and Marston-like scars.

The new maps offer a mix of compact, closed-in locations and more expansive spaces, with emphasis on the former; at least in the selection of six maps we were given. The largest, most open of the maps we sampled was Tall Trees, a snowy forest area bordered by rocky slopes and best traversed on horseback. Hold Your Own, Redemption's equivalent of Capture the Flag, is the only mode available in Tall Trees. With the two bases set at opposite ends of broad, hilly terrain and limited cover (just scattered trees) for players making a frontal assault, the map demands a team effort. Mounting up and rushing the opposing gang's chest en masse was one workable strategy, but a single player charging in on horseback would be quickly picked off by defenders hunkered down nearby.

Blackwater, the other West Elizabeth location in our multiplayer tour, was the standout map. The only really urban location in the game world makes for a new kind of Red Dead multiplayer experience, with rooftops and alleys between buildings offering multiple routes to the opposition's chest in Hold Your Own, for instance. The alleyways in particular gave rise to plenty of shotgun-friendly, close-quarters fighting, as well as opportunities to ambush bag carriers. The roads, on the other hand, have been littered with crates that add some cover for out-and-out street fighting.

Rio Bravo, in which the new tomahawk is a default weapon, is based around Repentance Rock. It's a good setting for the all-out deathmatch of Shootout mode, though Gang Shootout and Gold Rush are also on offer. The sheer, rocky walls of the foothills form crisscrossing natural corridors, which generate tense, up-close combat that favours the stealthy. And, if you can get the drop on another player, you'll probably find yourself gleefully planting a tomahawk between his shoulder blades; the tomahawk is a stealth weapon that helps you stay invisible on the minimap and is deadliest up close. It can be used at range, but you'll need to aim high to get the throwing arc right, especially if you're after a headshot.

Let me axe you something.

Fort Mercer is another enclosed, hectic map, with Gold Rush, Grab the Bag, Gang Shootout, and Shootout available to play. In our demo, the small fort lent itself well to Gold Rush, with the confined space and concealed corners dooming many an overconfident gold gatherer. Thieves' Landing, another New Austin map, is set around the bridge and wooden walkways at the heart of the settlement. The presence of deep water, as instantly deadly as ever, channels the action onto that narrow bridge, which is now littered with crates and barrels for gangs to take cover behind as they fight their way across. On this map, you can choose among the five modes: Gold Rush, Grab the Bag, Hold Your Own, Shootout, and Gang Shootout.

Down in Nuevo Paraiso, we paid a visit to Escalera, the split-level settlement overlooked by Colonel Allende's villa headquarters. This map is all about high ground and hiding spots, with the crow's-nest tower in the villa courtyard key to controlling this intricate map. Gang Shootout and Shootout are the modes available here, but good luck keeping hold of that tower in the latter.

Legends and Killers is confined to new maps and characters, not modes (the second DLC pack, Liars and Cheats, will add a new one called Attack and Defend), but it's a sizeable addition to the map collection, bringing fresh achievements and trophies to boot. It launches on August 10 for both Xbox Live and the PlayStation Network for 800 Microsoft points and £7.99 (or $9.99), respectively.

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186 comments
gobrock
gobrock

BUFFALO SOLDIER + TOMAHAWK = TOTAL VICTORY =D

lewispore
lewispore

Red Harlow's scars are not marston-like, its marston's scars that are harlow-like! when is the liars and cheats DLC out? i got this one earlier today and have nearly done everything already. PIG JOSH FTW!

JMYoda
JMYoda

I was hoping the DLCs would follow in the footsteps of GTAIV. For instance I was hoping this one would have a single player campaign featuring the characters from Red Dead Revolver. I'd also like to see a SP campaign about Jack. From what I can tell the only SP DLC is gonna be about Zombie coyboys which might be fun but a little silly after all the work they did to make RDR realistic. However at least the strange man could be back for that one. (Is he God, the Devil or something in-between like the Demiurge?) Also they should get Bruce Campbell to play the lead. He'd be a cross between Brisco County Jr, Ash and a cowboy Elvis (i.e. Flaming Star)! For the theme they could get Johnny Cash's version of "Ghost Riders in the Sky". (Did anyone else catch the overheard conversation in the game where a guy described seeing the Ghost Riders? Pretty funny.)

destructajustin
destructajustin

people are sitting here complaining about paying money 10 dollars for this dlc, which comes with new maps,characters, and a weapon. but for some reason that is beyond me, theyll pay 15 dollars for a few mediocre mp map on cod. give me a break. if you think ten dollars is a lot,then i think you should stop being so dang lazy and get a job.

jedi-james
jedi-james

after doing pretty much everything on red dead... i still choose to play the single player open world, rather than the multiplayer... the game on its own holds up well enough for it... comon rockstar give us the tale of Jack Marston for 1200 mp! im sure people would go for it

tommygun6644
tommygun6644

The price doesn't bother me. I just don't like RDR's competitive multiplayer that much. I'd probably pay 20 dollars for a campaign featuring Jack Marston.

chaldoboy14
chaldoboy14

People complaining about this are ridiculous. Yea a LOT of DLC on Xbox are rip offs and just quick ways for companies to make you pay for content that should have been in (Yea I'm looking at you MW2 and SF IV). But Unlike MW2's maps, this download is worth it. It's $5 less, includes 9 maps, 8 characters, and a new weapon. Worth $10? Yea if you play online a lot, I'm a person who's VERY against DLC that usually seems like it should already have been in. But this I'll actually pay for, Rockstar made a great game, and are supporting it very well. They deserve every dollar and every bit of support they get from us unlike Activision.

isshiah
isshiah

I haven't played the multi-player all that much so i can't comment on how useful this dlc is. What i'd prefer is some SP missions for Jack...or a sequel featuring Jack Marston. Also, whose idea was it to give you, in my opinion, the 2 best costumes in the entire game after 100% completion and other requirements passed near the games end, and not let you use them to replay missions?

Fajonkel
Fajonkel

I agree with Skellington. If it costs money, people are going to find a way to not like it. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that everyone doesn't. People like me, fans of the multiplayer, this DLC is great news, and I'm getting it the second it comes out.

XcoN_
XcoN_

Cheap asshats. Cash out or get lost is what i say. Why should they give it out for free? They work hard for making this material, they should be allowed to reap the harvest of it.

Sablicious
Sablicious

The multiplayer in this is a auto-aim lag fest. They should be divvying out FREE DLC not asking us to pay more for what's a mediocre, done-to-death experience already. No thanks. -_-

Capt_Kermit
Capt_Kermit

it would be crazy cool if the tomahawk was added to single player.

xtremeflem2day
xtremeflem2day

IMO, Red dead has terrible multiplayer, but the Single player is quite the opposite. Perhaps new world? New weapons? New missions? Just a thought

tommygun6644
tommygun6644

RDR's multiplayer was a shocking let down for me. This coming from someone who played the crap out of GTAIV's multi.

GTOplaya89
GTOplaya89

This sounds awesome! cant wait for tomorrow!

magusat999
magusat999

I agree with gibb1 and others who want single player expansions. Well I saw this coming and sold it back anyway, while I could get a good price (of course after playing the game completely out to it's maximum).

gibb1
gibb1

i want dlc's that extend the single player expericence, not the multiplayer.

Venom341
Venom341

Eh, I don't even play the competetive part of Red Dead, so I don't think I'll get this DLC. I just want Undead Nightmare and Liars and Cheats DLC.

SkeletX
SkeletX

i really hope they include bow and arrows !! as babyboy9680 said

Ashman555
Ashman555

@kane04 i know what you mean with the point system but im not complaining. Its £8.50 for 1000 points, the pack is 800 points so that about £7, yet ps3 has to pay more..

babyboy9680
babyboy9680

need some bow n arrows in the next download.....

Kane04
Kane04

£7.99 or $9.99? what about Euros? i've always complain about the point system of the wii and 360 because it "hides" the true price, but i guess when we have lazy writers it does come in handy ^_^

hotshot331
hotshot331

You can't use the tomahawk in SP?

ColdfireTrilogy
ColdfireTrilogy

lost interest in RDR multiplayer around the time when everyones gameplay strategies switched from run and gun fun to hide in corners for a map and turn the match stagnant... sorry Rockstar... i cant give you money while that crap continues : \

Skellington43
Skellington43

No matter what the DLC is, if it costs money, someone will find it too expensive/not worth it.

ethanrulez
ethanrulez

I can't even play these because of the connection problems that wired connections have :(

oblivion-cool
oblivion-cool

Im plannin on getting these packages but only when I can spare the cash.

Omegaman007
Omegaman007

Well I hope enough people join me in speaking with their wallet and not buying this. Just not worth it, and I have a bad feeling the other 3 DLC's will cost just as much.

NicAgent
NicAgent

I think I'll pass until the DLC that includes multiplayer Poker and Liar's Dice.

orb_03_2006
orb_03_2006

@ 555671ari Something like that. Or maybe a GOTY. I borrowed the game from a friend. I'll just buy a GOTY version when it's released. :D

orb_03_2006
orb_03_2006

Too pricey. 560 MSP sounds better. Maybe 480 MSP.

turtlebird95
turtlebird95

Everything looks great, but I think this should be priced at $5. Not $10. Oh well, I'll probably end up buying it regardless.

NoSoup4Me
NoSoup4Me

I would launch into freeroam and it would boot me from game to game. Rockstar makes solid SP games but really seems to be lacking in their MP dept. No lobbies in their games.If there was you could atleast choose to play with people who live close instead of throwing me on with the Europeans. Just throw you into a game and hope you stay connected

Gothika707
Gothika707

nightelf mohawk!!!!!!! whats your game?????

555671ari
555671ari

They'll probably release a special with all the DLC packs in it once they're all out like they did with the COD WAW map packs

Slymerz
Slymerz

No Co-OP missions not worth the $$$

aaronfhff123
aaronfhff123

Can you axe people to death in Red Dead Redemption? If not...why the heck not R*? I was just wondering since I have never played the game and because GTA 4 and it's expansions lacked modern day brutal melee weapons like the chainsaw.

TheActionFigure
TheActionFigure

I refuse to pay for areas that are already in the game. It's silly. I love RDR's multiplayer , but I'll rather use the remaining ten bucks on my account this week for Scott Pilgrim.

Amauris96
Amauris96

I see many people not getting interested with the new DLC, for money reasons or the fact that it adds little content. I might get it cause I never want this game to be over for me. The main issue I do have a problem with are the damn "Hackers", yes I am talking about the people who use flash drives to rank you up to level 50 5 damn times! By 5 times I mean becoming a legend of the west or "Prestiging" as some might call it, 5 times. I mean come on Rockstar, make that update to take that crap off and let the people who used flash drives or whatever and start them all over to 0 with no Legend unlocked, it shouldn't be too hard to detect people who used flash drivers? I could be mistaken but it's a thought. That's my opinion though, can't wait till they make the newer DLC packs and the tomahank seems like a kickass weapon! :)

supernaught360
supernaught360

Yawn. I'm with Fuzzbutt111 - populate the free roam, allow all the mini games (poker, etc) to be played competitively, and ice it all off with TRUE co-op. I mean really: Marston interacts with enough NPCs in story mode you wouldn't even have to shoe-horn a new character.

dadada_mon
dadada_mon

i still cannot play online anyway, why i care ?

Septagon7
Septagon7

Wow, a full $10 for some new characters, one new weapon, and the same game modes in a few different areas...sounds like a rip to me. The Tall Trees area looks interesting for gang shootouts, but that itself is not worth the money.

GAMERVeiwer
GAMERVeiwer

Well for the PC owners might have to wait but most games are gonna be mainly XBOX/PS3 Bound game companys are trying to get People off the PC and onto a Gaming Console because 1. Consoles have less problems running the software 2. patchs and updates are alot faster 3.you dont have to be conected to play singleplayer do to copy rights 4.wouldnt you like to have a console were there is a Huge gaming Comunity with millions of gamers as you can download your own unique Collection of gaming Fun.these are some of the main reasons why Games in the future will be less and less on the PC. Ohh.. yea just use your PC for World of Warcraft ..Thats IT!!..PS3/360 for every thing else.

Alex_09
Alex_09

@brendanhunt1 That's unimportant. I wonder if you'll say the same once you have bought all 3 paid for DLC add ons. When compared to the content we got with the original purchase, this is a complete ripoff.