PlayStation Move hits NA Sept. 19, Twisted Metal PS3-bound

E3 2010: Sony's press briefing reveals $100 motion controller starter pack; controller $50 solo, navigation controller $30; $400 PS3 bundle also planned; Portal 2 on PS3 in 2011; Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood, MOH, more get exclusive PS3 content; full video inside.

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LOS ANGELES--Although the PSP Go has proven less than popular, it could be argued Sony began a comeback of sorts at the 2009 Electronic Entertainment Expo. At its press event last year, the company showed off some major exclusives, such as MAG and the award-winning--and top-rated--Uncharted 2. It also unveiled some sure-to-be fan favorites, including Team ICO's the Last Guardian, Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker, and Final Fantasy XIV. Then there was the not-so-small matter of the PlayStation 3's motion-control system, which emerged from the shadows via a tech demo.

Killzone 3 is likely to appear at Sony's E3 2010 press briefing.

Christened the PlayStation Move at this year's Game Developers Conference, the motion-control system will be a centerpiece of Sony's E3 2010 press briefing. Also likely in the cards will be a taste of the 3D gaming initiative, which the electronics giant launched this week, and a look at a highly anticipated upcoming 3D title, Killzone 3. Some of the wilder speculation in the gaming press also pegs a PSP 2 debut as being possible at the event, though Sony, having learned its lesson last year, is keeping mum on any surprises.

Come back Tuesday for a live blog of Sony's press briefing or watch a live video stream of it on GameSpot's E3 2010 event page.

[11:57] After being forced to enter the shrine auditorium a 1/2 the audience is suddenly being told the conference is starting.

[11:58] Cue thunderous montage showing Sony products and games.

[11:58] Little Big Planet 2, Gran Turismo 5, Killzone 3, Peacer Walker.

[11:59] Heavy emphasis on Move--Kevin Butler clip makes not so subtle jab at Kinect.

[12:00] Enter SCEA president Jack Tretton, who walks out into a raised dais in the middle of the stage. He takes a jab at Microsoft's Cirque du Soleil performance, saying "don't worry I won't spit--you don't need any ponchos."

[12:01] Obligatory promotion of the PS3's feature set. Blu-ray, unrivaled gaming experiences, and "an expanding range of network services."

Sony's Jack Tretton takes the stage.

[12:04] He gives props to the PS3's multimedia functions.

[12:05] And then he introduces the big cheese, SCEA group president Kaz Hirai.

[12:05] He says that the next year will take "innovation and content to a whole new level."

[12:05] Says he wants to do for 3D what the PS3 did for Blu-ray.

[12:05] Promises 20 titles made for native 3D will be coming to PS3 by March 2011.

[12:05] Cue demo of KIllzone 3, which will be in native 3D.

The PS3 will have 20 native 3D titles by March 2011.

[12:07] Guerrilla Games comes on stage to show the game off, and tells the audience to put on their 3D glasses.

[12:07] A Helghan helicopter releases troopers in jet packs, and an intense firefight ensues.

[12:08] One Helghan takes fire to his jetpack, causing it to fly out of control.

[12:08] More intense close-quarters combat, and one of the players steals a jetpack.

[12:09] He flies over a frozen wasteland, entering a derelict building.

[12:09] He searches and then flies over a ravine--I guess Killzone is a platformer now.

Some may call it a blurry camera; others would say it's the future.

[12:10] The player uses the pack to rise above enemies' cover and deliver death from above.

[12:11] He also uses the pack to take cover on roofs and neutralize the enemies' height advantage.

[12:11] The jetpack trooper then helps a human dropship assault a raised position.

[12:12] Killzone 3 due out February 2011, only on PS3--and will be completely compatible with the PlayStation Move at launch.

[12:13] With SOCOM 4, that means there are now both a core third-person and first-person shooter in the works for the PlayStation Move.

[12:15] The Sly Collection will be in 3D--as will Grant Turismo 5, Shaun White Skateboaring, Tron Evolution, Crysis 2, and more.

[12:15] NBA 2K11, as well.

[12:16] Now one last 3D surprise…

[12:16] Montage of PS3 hardware.

[12:16] The new Mortal Kombat will also be in 3D, as will EyePet.

[12:17] MLB 10: The Show, Tumble--which appears new.

[12:17] Mortal Kombat shown off with graphic fatalities--definitely a hard M.

[12:18] Lights come up, Tretton comes out.

[12:19] Tretton dismisses talks of life cycles, saying its about the quality of immersive entertainment. Since it's the PS2's 10th anniversary, it gets its due. Nielsen says it's still the second-most played platform in the US.

[12:20] Since last year, there has been a big spike in PS3 sales as well. Yeah, a price drop will do that.

[12:20] PlayStation Move now up, which he says will be more realistic than other controllers.

Tron Evolution will be among Sony's 3D lineup.

[12:21] SCEA marketing head Peter Dille comes out to tout his wares.

[12:22] He said that the Move and 3D are proof that the PS3 is "future proof" since they are being introduced four years into its product cycle.

[12:22] He touts the Move's one-to-one tracking with the PS Eye and controller, which has three sensors built inside of it.

[12:23] Cue montage of Move's developers.

[12:24] Footage of scientists is intercut with Kevin Butler ads delivering thinly veiled jabs at Kinect.

[12:25] Sony finally has a good PS3 ad campaign, and they are playing it up. The LACC has a giant 50-foot poster of Butler plastered on the front.

[12:26] Dille says that the Blu-ray has so much capacity, they can often put two full versions of a game on one disc--the Move version and the regular version.

[12:26] Dille now promises to reveal some brand-new games.

[12:27] First game is called Sorcery, an all-new fantasy game designed just for the PlayStation Move.

[12:27] It will provide a "total sense of immersion."

[12:28] He pulls out a Move controller and navigation controller.

[12:28] The game is cartoonish fantasy, with a young sorcerer holding a wand in a dungeon.

[12:29] The demonstrator puts the game through its paces. Spells are cast by waving the move controller at the screen as though it were a wand.

Sorcery turns the Move into a real magic wand.

[12:30] Spells are selected from a radial menu brought up by a button.

[12:30] Movement is controlled with the subcontroller.

[12:31] He prepares a spell to change him into a rat. The LED ball at the end of the controller changes colors to match the spell.

[12:31] He casts a whirlwind spell and sucks an enemy into a vortex by twhirling his wand in the air.

[12:31] He then combines it with a fire spell and creates a fire tornado.

[12:32] He casts an area effect spell by swinging his wand toward the ground.

[12:32] Demo ends.

[12:34] Dille promises that the move will revolutionize sports gaming as well. Cue the head of EA Sports development Andrew Wilson with Tiger Woods PGA Tour 11.

[12:35] After calibrating the controller, he gets ready to take a swing. He said the controller can measure power and will be about one long motion "not just a flick of the wrist."

Tiger Woods PGA Tour 11 is a natural for the Move.

[12:36] He hits a strong shot which goes into the sand trap. It looks like he's really swinging.

[12:36] Swings again--sand trap again.

[12:37] Third swing, he just misses the green.

[12:37] The onscreen action does indeed look like it is one-to-one in sync with the player.

[12:38] Fourth stroke, and it's in the hole. Where's Rodney Dangerfield to make a wisecrack?

Wilson's movement mimics that of a real golf stroke.

[12:39] Tiger Woods will get Move compatibility via a PSN patch when the system launches this fall. It will also be on the "Move demo disc," which will presumably come with the system.

[12:41] Whoa, wait what--all new game, Heroes on the Move--which will feature Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, and Sly Cooper.

[12:41] Move will be promoted with the help of Coca-Cola, which will advertise the game.

Ratchet will be featured in Heroes on the Move.

[12:43] Out walks Kevin Butler--or more accurately the actor who plays him. He said he needs to get something off his chest and kicks Dille off stage.

[12:43] "So am I crazy or did I see 100 French acrobats prancing around the other night."

[12:44] "I think its time to focus on what's really important--the games." He pronounces his love for games with a series of wisecracks. "Gaming is about staying up to 3 a.m. to own a trophy that isn't real."

[12:45] "With PlayStation Move, your mom can make your mom jokes when she schools you at table tennis."

[12:46] "And we can all box with characters with important features like arms and necks." Laughter.

[12:47] Cue fake patriotic ad. "We all serve one master, one king. And his name is…GAMING. Forever may he reign!" Applause and laughter as Butler walks off.

Kevin Butler holds forth.

[12:48] Move launch details: EU Sept 15, NA Sept. 19, Japan Oct. 21.

[12:48] Controller is $50, navigation controller is $30

[12:50] PS3 bundle with console, Move, PS Eye will be $400. $100 bundle with Move, the PS Eye, and Sports Champions.

[12:50] RUSE, Singstar Dance, echochrome II, and EyePet will all support Move.

[12:50] Cue Move montage to--yes, seriously--Bust a Move.

[12:50] Also, those bundles will include the Sports Champions minigame compilation.

[12:51] Now they're mixing in "I like to move it move it"

[12:52] Montage shows TV superstars, SOCOM 4, and a Time Crisis game, amongst others.

[12:52] Montage ends, lights come out.

[12:55] Now its on to the PSP, with Tretton back on stage. He says the PSP is the only portable platform for the serious gamer.

[12:56] Cue series of ads which features a new spokesperson, a sassy young African-American kid named Marcus.

[12:58] Tretton back out, and holds up Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker as an example of a great core game on PSP.

[12:58] After briefly mentioning the PSP-camera game Invizimals, a trailer for God of War: Ghost of Sparta unspools. Developed by Chains of Olympus shop Ready and Dawn, the game will be an origin story for Kratos.

[12:58] Both games will be part of hardware packs this fall.

[12:59] Tron Evolution and UFC 2010 also coming to PSP.

Kratos will have a new origins story when God of War: Ghost of Sparta arrives this fall.

[1:02] Monatrion Racers, Ace Combat Joint Assault, Gravity Crash Portable, Dragon Ball Z Tenkachi, Hot Shots Tennis Get a Grip, Madden NFL 11, Patapon, Tetris, EyePet, Piyotma, Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep, The 3rd Birthday, Persona 3 Portable, and Ys: The Oath in Felgana are all teased in a montage.

[1:02] Now its PlayStation Network, which has 50 million users right now. Tretton said its the most connected console on the planet.

[1:03] Oh, and the second series of the Tester will begin casting tomorrow!

[1:03] PSN video store is getting content from NBC and Nickelodeon.

[1:04] The Sony E3 2010 booth was completely replicated in PlayStation Home, so those who can't make it to E3 can explore it.

[1:05] Out comes Alex Evans from Media Molecule to demonstrate Little Big Planet 2.

Patapon 3 will be part of Sony's PSP push.

[1:07] He talks about the ethos of Play, Create, and Share, and goes over some new creation tools, including the ability to make games in any genre.

[1:07] He shows a competitive game which looks like tournament Tetris of sorts. Then he has a new game called "Crashy Crash," which is a combination between sumo wrestling and bumper cars.

[1:09] Now he's showing off a Joust-like competitive platformer, which he says is easy to build.

[1:10] Now teasing an R-Type like shooter, one of dozens of games made by Media Molecule developers. They also created top-down racers and a full-fledged real-time strategy game.

Sackboy has learned a few new tricks in Little Big Planet 2.

[1:12] Tretton back out to tout how the PSN will remain free with its current feature set. However, there will be a new paid level called PlayStation Plus, which will require a subscription. He said the service will offer "hundreds" of dollars of value, including early demo access, beta invites, free games, free themes, and a host of other new content.

[1:13] It will launch later this month for $50 a year, three-month subscription is $18.

[1:13] All content will be owned for the "duration of your subscription"--i.e. you unsubscribe and you lose access to it.

[1:14] During the first month, gamers get Wipeout HD, a demo, two PSP mini games, and select avatars.

[1:15] Now it's on to third-party support, with EA being called out as a big booster of all things PlayStation.

[1:15] EA COO John Schappert--who used to be an executive at Microsoft--takes the stage.

[1:15] He's here to announce two new titles will have exclusive PlayStation 3 content.

[1:15] The first is Medal of Honor and executive producer Greg Goodrich takes the stage to describe it.

[1:16] He is rocking a big bushy beard just like that of the soldier on the game's cover.

PlayStation Plus will cost $50 a year.

[1:17] A new character named Deuce--an elite Tier One operator--is introduced in a trailer.

[1:18] Montage introduces a whole Tier 1 Operator squad, and shows vehicles such as ATVs and helicopters will be driveable.

[1:18] Due out on October 12 (previously known), the game will feature a complex customization element courtesy of DICE, which is making the multiplayer.

[1:19] Characters will have unlockable beards!

[1:20] New multiplayer map in the Korengal Valley in Afghanistan is shown.

Unlockable beards are coming to Medal of Honor.

[1:20] Action looks intense with airstrikes, melee kills.

[1:21] A limited edition of Medal of Honor will be available on October 12, and will include a remastered version of the 2002 game Medal of Honor Frontline.

[1:22] Now it's on to Dead Space 2, which sees Isaac Clarke facing off against a monster boss that's several stories high.

[1:22] He escapes the behemoth, only to face a still-huge creature in some ventilation shafts.

[1:23] The two engage in some tough melee combat, and Isaac enters a room where he faces the huge boss again.

EA's Dead Space 2 will also feature exclusive content on the PS3.

[1:24] Dead Space 2 limited edition will have a PlayStation Move-optimized version of Dead Space Extraction completely free.

[1:25] Extraction will be on the game disc.

[1:25] Tretton leaves and is interrupted by GLaDOS, the computer from Valve's Portal.

[1:26] Out walks Gabe Newell, Valve Software founder and one of the PS3's most vocal critics.

[1:27] Portal 2 is coming to the PS3 as well, and will bring a series of Steam features to the PlayStation 3.

[1:27] First Portal 2 trailer ever unspools.

Gabe Newell is apparently ready to embrace the PS3.

[1:28] Shots of the wrecked interior of the Aperture Science building.

[1:28] Coming to PS3 in 2011.

[1:29] Newell said it will be "the best console version of Portal 2." Damn, talk about a change of heart.

[1:30] Now its time for a look at Square Enix's upcoming MMORPG Final Fantasy XIV. Cue montage of scary beasts and stylish warriors with nice hair.

[1:30] 2K Games now being called out, thanks to exclusive day-one PS3 exclusive content for Mafia II.

[1:31] The PS3 version will have exclusive missions.

[1:32] Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood will also have exclusive missions, and its multiplayer beta will be available only on PSN.

Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood will get an exclusive beta test on the PS3.

[1:33] New characters appear to be a shape-shifter, a jester, and some group of warriors.

[1:34] Cue video montage hyping the PS3's upcoming lineup, which includes some multiplayer titles.

[1:34] Dead Space 2, Madden, NBA 2k11…

[1:36] Gran Turismo 5 has a prominent place--yes, it's still coming. No, really!

[1:38] Tretton comes out to show a dedicated Gran Turismo 5 trailer, saying "we are finally going to get our hands on Polyphony's masterpiece." He does not give a date.

[1:39] The trailer is indeed near-photorealistic, with the cars shining and skidding. If you like Top Gear, you will want this game. It even has a runway test course that looks like the celebrated auto show's.

[1:40] COMING NOVEMBER 2, 2010. Finally.

[1:40] Lights coming up, then go down again for a look at Infamous 2 from Sucker Punch.

[1:42] Protagonist/antagonist runs through the street showing lighting and fire powers. He faces a massive beast at the end.

[1:42] Tretton is back and says "we have one last surprise for you." Lights come back down.

[1:44] Advertisement shows cabbies arguing over what was the best car combat game on the PS1 and PS2.

[1:45] A clown emerges from the shadows and sets his hair on fire--a huge TWISTED METAL logo comes up and fake fire coats the stage.

[1:45] A battered ice cream truck goes on the stage. David Jaffe gets out, and says the new game is coming in 2011, and will have many of the original developers working on it.

Twisted Metal returns.

[1:46] A multiplayer match is shown, where a helicopter gun mows down a car battle in a city.

[1:47] The game will feature two-player split-screen multiplayer play, and there will also be a campaign mode.

[1:48] Now they're showing off a new game mode, Nuke, which will be about objective-based multiplayer gameplay.

[1:51] Players will each be part of a faction, and that faction must capture and hold their rival faction's leader near a missile launcher. Once powered up, the missile launcher will deploy its ordnance, which must be guided into a statue.

[1:51] Twisted Metal will be playable in the Sony booth.

[1:52] Tretton back out now, wrapping up.

[1:52] He thanks everyone, and that's it!

Discussion

281 comments
HerbalVideogame
HerbalVideogame

I wonder how much they paid the person that made the Playstation Move logo, seeing as how they put so much effort into it! The Wii, for me, is the clear winner this gaming generation, though admittedly I spend most of my gaming time playing PSOne classics on my PS3 I never had time for back in the day. I like the prospects of "Kinect" better than I do the Move, just because it seems like a somewhat fresh idea, rather than BLATANTLY copying someone else in their design. I love Sony, but they have made some rather odd, non-innovations this gaming season, and it's too bad, because as good as it is now, it could have been the best ever.

blackace
blackace

They keep saying the MOVE has buttons. Sony is uneducated as usual. Kinect can be used in conjunction with the regular 360 controller. M$ already said a controller could easily be added to Kinect in the future if a particular game really needed one.

ebookerd1
ebookerd1

Someone made a point a bout a Kinect costing 210 = 1 Game + Plus Unit. Ok.... Don't buy it. Besides 1 Move full kit is $80. 2 = $160. Add a game $60... Wait 2 moves +1 game = uuuhhhh oooooo that is $220. Please don't use price as a reason to be a lose. 90% of us purchased a console at launch. That means we either purchased a $799 PS3 or a $599 X360.... You really didn't care then, why moan and cry now. I know I waited a year. Before my purchase. I waited till Wii was $200 before I purchased it for my parents even though I knew it was a PS2 with Motion control. Let get back to the conference there are awesome games coming out and we are here focusing on a glowing ball on stick and no controller world. Kill Zone 3 bring on the cheers!!!!!!!

1penance1
1penance1

D***it!!! I just realized i traded in my psp for a 360 and patapon 3 is coming out and i never disconnect my psp!!!!!!!!!!

anthonycg
anthonycg

@ SuperYeti22 It's probably going to be just for party games. But then again, people will just consider the wii if it's cheaper.

SuperYeti22
SuperYeti22

I like the move, but I hate how it looks(And I'm not a fan of the price). That blue ball makes it look like a baby's rattle/d1ld0. But the functionallity looks promising. I'll be sure to check it out. Move, Wii-mote, Kinect, WHY DO COMPANIES GIVE MOTION CONTROLS STUPID NAMES?!?!!?!?

aGiantSquirrel
aGiantSquirrel

How would you play COD with Kinect, lol? To run, you have to run in place, to shoot, you use your finger like second grade,( kevin butler, lol). To turn left, you lean your body to the left. WHat if COD will have Kinect support and you have to do all those things. I would get more entertainment watching the player run in place than watching the game itself.

manjo
manjo

All of you whining about not being able to play normal games on the kinect just stfu. Just consider it as almost another system. It's not like its replacing the 360 and all games will be like fun little Wii games. You still have the 360 and all the good hardcore games will come out for that.

DarknautXXX
DarknautXXX

Looks like sony and microsoft are catching up to nintendo in the movement department. Lets not forget about buttons and analog sticks!

DiscGuru101
DiscGuru101

25% of Sony's event was ads and low impact videos. Twisted Metal 3 was the killer app. Move doesn't look worth $50-$100 if you already own a Wii. I can't accept that there will be many people who use their wallet to disagree with me.

thekey
thekey

I'm sold! I'm getting this PM thing at launch!!!

SuperYeti22
SuperYeti22

@sleepnsurf O rly now? With no controller, how do you run? Duck for cover? And after football and I want to play a game, running in place isn't my idea of fun. How do you shoot when there's NO DAMN TRIGGER?! How do you reload? How do you aim? And the camera sees you, but it doesn't see what YOU see, it doesn't know wtf ur aiming at."Sony should be ashamed that they did not push the envelope with something more intuitive" You clearly wouldn't know what innovative means if it slapped you in the face. Innovation is when you improve on a technology that already exists. PSMove is a HUGE improvement on Wii-like remotes, and Kinect is a improvement over the PS cameras. I agree with @icekids here, you see, the move actually has these buttons for the important things here. Have fun flailing playing casual games on Kinect, while we PS3 gamers (the real gamers) play hardcore games (real games) on the PSMove! MUWAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jb9776
jb9776

some the people who post on here are absolutely insane. they talk without knowing all the facts. lets get things straight starting with price. the kinect cost $150 bucks, add a game at $60 and your talking about $210. i just heard over on ign that move will support the duel shock controller so you don't need to buy the sub controller. so now if you get the $100 bundle all you need is additional move controllers.

Megavideogamer
Megavideogamer

Twisted Metal PS3 Yes! It is about time. This is a launch day game for me! Sony has finally done it.

Peazo
Peazo

Looks fun, but the contols and lack of full body movement via mapping, just makes the control system an upgrade of the Wii. The main focus for me would be the 3D and the immersion into the games. This will be the selling point. The problem is I wouldn't want to buy a 1st gen 3D TV when there are so many good non 3D bargains appearing. It will be a few years till I see how the market is, how it settles and then tech like this will be so much fun in 3D. For me it leaves the Kinect. Microsofts advertising has been a bit poor so far with very simplistic games, but the fitness programme that will be coming out really shows the full body mapping that the Kinect provides. With some creative developing we should hopefully see some amazing games coming out for it. I'll keep my eye on both as I really appreciate good innovation. Hopefully with these technologies we'll see some new gaming ideas rather than constant sequals and the growing trend of DLC to fill the void.

KBABZ
KBABZ

alexatkin: Well, you got me beat there, Kinect comes with 4-Player support out of the box, while Move doesn't.

sleepnsurf
sleepnsurf

Not impressed whatsoever! Who wants to hold 2 maracas in your hands when you can have your hands free with kinect. This is an EPIC FAILURE. What kind of progression is this. It is just a flat out copy of the wii. Sony should be ashamed that they did not push the envelope with something more intuitive.

Last4one
Last4one

From my point of view... PM is like wiimote on crack.. seriouslly.. PM jus amazed me with that sorcery

The_crapgamer
The_crapgamer

@ icekids I guess your question was how would I play Modern Warfare 3 on Kinect? I wouldn't. I think any game that has a controller would let the people using actual controllers have a huge advantage. I kind of take my hardcore gaming seriously since I run a gaming clan. Same thing for Move, you'll see how quickly people stop using Move for Killzone 3 when they go to play online and the controller lags and they get slapped around by people using a controller. Fact is these are casual devices, no matter how the companies try to dress them up. The media functions on Kinect just interest me more, the ability to control dashboards, movies, music, volume and media in general without a controller appeals to me. That's why I'd get it. Also as a hardcore gamer, I need a break sometimes from all the killing and trash talk. So party games or games where I can relax with friends, toss back a few brews and have a laugh playing some of the games we saw. I am not against Move, but I think they will need to offer something more interesting then they did, since I can already play better Wii games with the same style controller Sony has their work cut out for them. Microsoft on the other hand has some interesting tech and people will want to just try it out for themselves. I see them offering a slim 360 arcade/Kinect bundle for $100 less then the PS3/Move bundles so that will help things.

roseke69
roseke69

@Packgator Good point - the games for the PS are better than the ones showcased for the Kinect. I was just focusing on the technology. Hopefully better games will come in time...

icekids
icekids

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baystatethrashr
baystatethrashr

I dont understand how $80+ Dollars for one controller is cheaper than one $150 camera that multiple people can use at once. Do the math people. The Move is a rip-off.

jofy
jofy

I can't wait for the MOVE, KINECT is a complete disaster.Infamous 2 (along with Killzone 3 and GT5) look awesome.

jaijames
jaijames

all the motion stuff is garbage

Scienceray
Scienceray

@The_crapgamer you said everything i would have said if i felt like typing all of that! but as far as getting anything like the move or kinect (natal sounded better in my opinion) i dont think i would since i have both a ps3 and 360 i think i would get the kinect since the majority of my friends are on live and i like forza 4. killzone 3 would be interesting on the move depending on how the controls are mapped... but we will see

icekids
icekids

@The_crapgamer,,,,how you will play MW3 on Kinect? 1=the PM has the sub control for walking, running, jumping, decrease etcc 2=the PM has 3 buttons to shoot for example, using sniper, throw grenades and use own 3= PM to control where you want to shoot like a mouse, 4=and the camera can capture movements of the PS3 too, 5=and PM has functions of vibration, for me is buying sure, 6= PM WIN

The_crapgamer
The_crapgamer

@ icekids Bro what shows did you watch? Kinect was by far the device that picked up movement the most accurately. Move was a bit better then the Wii demo yesterday, but Move doesn't have the Games to pull off a straight up Nintendo ripoff. As for the types of gamers the companies are going after, I saw one hardcore game working on each, Killzone 3 on PS3 and Forza 4 with the Xbox 360. All the rest were party games. It's clear both companies went after casual gamers. I also would feel sorry for anyone using Move in an actual online game with lag and opponents using controllers. Controllers gonna win everytime. @ alexatkin I agree, the two games on the same disk seemed like overkill, it's not needed. I own a Wii as well and many of those games give you the option to either play the game with a controller or the motion controller. So it's just Sony trying to hype Blu Ray even more. The new Slim Xbox 360 (Currently sold out everywhere) is whisper quiet, They removed the duel fans and put in one whisper quiet one. As for installs, I agree, it was annoying on games like MGS4 when you play it and have to install every act and it takes like 5 minuets each, I would honestly rather switch out the disk.

icekids
icekids

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kbempoleon
kbempoleon

i'm definitely buying the playstation move along with that heroes on the move thing.

icekids
icekids

@alexatkin.. Kinect =for casual games PM=for ALL GAMES ^_^ Kinect=terrrible LAG PM=precision of MOUSE ^_^

alexatkin
alexatkin

@KBABZ Kinect for $150 with 4 player support. Move for $340 with 4 player support. Guess who won? Seriously, comparing any system purely on price is stupid. As for the "Blu-ray can hold both versions of the game", I call BS. The largest part of any game is its assets, which would be identical on both versions of the game. The major difference would be the game code which takes the least space, no way it needs all that space. Its infantile Sony are still playing the "every game needs a Blu-ray" game when its been proven time and time again that games which wont fit on DVD comfortably are a minority. I would much rather have an instant-on experience where you stick the game in and play it immediately, than be forced to sit through a painful install. Sure I love how the PS3 is quieter than the 360 thanks to not having to spin a DVD super fast, but the new 360 Slim may have fixed that too.

MrHatnClogs
MrHatnClogs

I think Sony had a decent conference with all their exclusive games and content, but I wasn't that impressed with move. Now it seems like their a bit behind Nintendo IMO Who knows maybe it will be better than Wii but I was more impressed with Sony's exclusives.

leeko_link
leeko_link

"Dille says that the Blu-ray has so much capacity, they can often put two full versions of a game on one disc--the Move version and the regular version." True now tell that to the greedy publishers who sell unlockables for DLC so that it remains true. I don't want to buy the next Super Hard Mode or Extra Ultimate Weapon for any game for an extra bucks that should had being in the game beforehand.

monson21502
monson21502

@amaan4ever, yes i think the starter pack comes with move controller and a sub controller and the ps3 eye cam. but you will need another move controller for some games. some use just one move, other you need a move plus the sub. and some you need 2 move controllers. if you want to have 2 players at your house that could be another 120 bucks. for 2 move controllers and a 20 dollar sub controller. plus each move controller uses 3 light bulbs. not sure if the move controller uses batteries or you just replace the bulbs but that could be a extra cost

blueguykisame
blueguykisame

took Sony way too long to step it up, but atleast they're finally doing it..

hunter8man
hunter8man

The way I see it, the Wii uses a motion sensing remote. Kinect uses your body as a motion sensing remote along with some voice recognition software. Move actually puts you into the game along with a motion sensing remote. Even though I'm unlikely going to purchase either Kinect or Move, I can see the Move having a longer life. Aside from the Move, Sony's presser was just as good as Nintendo's. Kevin Butler stole the show, and Infamous 2 (along with Killzone 3 and GT5) look awesome. Great E3 all around.

techienvt
techienvt

I find it funny how people are saying that the Move is inexpensive. Are you all seeing the same information as me? Yes, the starter kit mat be $100, but what about the other 3 controller sets you'll need for your friends that cost $80 each. Though I am not sold yet on Move or Kinect, at least the Kinect will support 4 players right out of the box. On a side note, MS and Nintendo kept their presentation civil and focused on their own company, did Sony really have to take cheapshots at the competition? Seems like they know their motion control (with buttons for precision....made me laugh) is really nothing more than HD Wii style gaming. Also, I don't think having a smartass kid in your ads is the answer to increasing PsP sales.

enoslives7
enoslives7

too expensive for a gimmick that will only be supported for a few months

jshaas
jshaas

Which piece is the "Navigaition Controller" exactly? @KBABZ... or if you already have a PSEye, it's only going to be $80! Nice work Sony, but what about cross game chat? It's not a big deal to me, but I know thousands of PS3 users would love to have it.

ParisSun
ParisSun

Well E3 was pretty much a failure. I was hoping to see information on ground breaking new games and instead we get Halo 7, Killzone 12 and LoZ 50. All the motion control stuff has promise but none of the games are overly interesting. Ultimately a yawner, an E3 made for casual 10 year old gamers.

KBABZ
KBABZ

Kinect for $150. Move for $100. Guess who won?

violentmonkey
violentmonkey

Wow, now Sony is telling people to "bridge the gap between casuals and hardcores"? That's what Nintendo's been trying to tell people for years and NOW Sony is going to give into that philosophy? This is such a turning point. At least now Sony fanboys can understand since it's coming from someone they actually care about. I loved what Butler said about gaming. "We all serve one master, one king. And his name is…GAMING. Forever may he reign!". The days of ignorance and fanboyism could very well be over. And I love how gamespot didn't put a few more quotes from that section of the show. To me, those were the best parts of the conference.

icekids
icekids

1 word....GT5 ^_^ but PM with FPS and Action Games Rules

kazater
kazater

a bit of good news here.. maybe i'll dust off the ps3 for portals 2 on that.. nothing really groundbreaking though.. a bit dissapointed here..had high hopes tho.. :S

Darth_Dave
Darth_Dave

Really looking forward to Twisted Metal and Mortal Kombat

blackace
blackace

I thought Nintendo won this years E3. Both Microsoft and Sony's conferences were lacklustered.