Notch refuses to certify Minecraft for Windows 8

Tweets from Markus "Notch" Persson slam Microsoft and its upcoming operating system as a closed platform.

Minecraft creator Markus "Notch" Persson has spit venom at Microsoft and its new Windows 8 operating system. The developer explained over Twitter that he received an email from Microsoft asking for help to certify Minecraft for Windows 8, to which he responded with sharp, cutting words about the new platform.

Notch doesn't want Minecraft on Windows 8.

"I told them to stop trying to ruin the PC as an open platform," he said.

Windows 8 launches next month and has generated much buzz over its vast redesign, but it appears Notch won't be among the adopters.

"I'd rather have Minecraft not run on [Windows 8] at all than to play along," he added. "Maybe we can convince a few people not to switch to [Windows 8] that way."

Notch is no stranger to bemoaning the actions of large companies, as he declared Electronic Arts to be "destroying" the gaming industry earlier this year. However, his comments about Windows 8 are in stark contrast to the affection he poured on Microsoft upon Minecraft's record-setting launch on Xbox Live Arcade.

"Hey, Microsoft! You might be a big and scary American company that likes secrets and meetings and such, but I love working with you!" he said at the time.

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secen1
secen1

Dear Notch, give me a laptop with the graphics to play minecraft on windows 7, put windows 8 on it and play minecraft on it. OOOHH! Impossible!! IT WORKS.

BRUGGE69
BRUGGE69

What "Notch" needs to realize is that most of his customers are between the age of 8-14 years meaning that most of them don't buy the computers for their family, so of course parents are going to want the latest version of windows.  In other words instead of "Notch" convincing people to not buy windows 8 he is really loosing his customers by preventing them from playing.  my family recently bought a computer with windows 8 and I had no idea that this would prevent me from playing minecraft and my parents have bought me a computer with windows 8 for the purpose of playing minecraft and for my school work but because of his refusal I must now either return the computer and get a new one around Christmas (which would be a hassle) or just say forget minecraft "Notch" will get over it when he has no customers, which is what I am most likely to do.  Plus after getting windows 8 I love it.  I have found it to be very user friendly and I urge "Notch" to reconsider his decision to prevent it on minecraft or if he stays stubborn to at least make it a big story because almost everyone I know has no idea that this is happening. 

Irondiesel58
Irondiesel58

He's so full of Bull S. His game is on Xboxlive but he won't make his game windows 8 compatible. First off he doesn't even have the knowledge to reprogram it. It's just laziness! He hasn't worked on minecraft since he moved to Vegas. I bought minecraft and it ran on Vista and win 7 but soon after you could no longer download the game in it's entirety but only to start it up in a browser. Lets see Microsoft who he's already in bed with against Mojang. Give it a few weeks and a fan will do it faster and better then he could. The Fame Clock is ticking Notch. tic toc tic toc.

SolidTy
SolidTy

Another reason to avoid upgrading to Windows 8. I've skipped previous Windows before, and it looks like Windows 7 stays in my home.

N3rdk0r3
N3rdk0r3

Well as far as im concerned, It really isn't up to Notch anymore seeing as he has stepped down from last I heard, Mojang SHOULD certify it for Windows 8 OR refund all the money to the people who paid for Minecraft, Is that not fair, By not certifying to Windows 8, In a sense your robbing those who did upgrade of their money, People didn't upgrade to Windows 8 for Minecraft.. I'm sure they had other reasons that concern their daily lives... Like work or school, ECT....

 

It's either you give back the money to those who upgraded, OR certify the game,

Which do you think is more profitable Mojang?

linuxbrony
linuxbrony

I don't blame Notch.  Not one bit.

 

Meanwhile, us Linux users welcome Mojang and the other game developers disappointed by Windows' turn for the worse with open arms.

 

I have no complaints about Windows 8.  It sure doesn't affect me; my Linux and Solaris/illumos boxen will do just fine without that garbage.  It might get a VM at best, and only so I can benchmark it and demonstrate to others where Linux triumphs and Windows fails.

 

Windows users, now is your chance to escape Upgrade Hell(TM).  Try Ubuntu.  It's free.  You'll have Steam shortly.  Minecraft runs faster on it.  If you really need to run Windows apps, there's always Wine.  It doesn't slow down after a few months like Windows does.

 

Did I mention it's free?

FandomTheory
FandomTheory

While it is true that Windows 8 is compatible with a lot of stuff (like Minecraft), it's a sign of the times, and a clear indication of the direction Microsoft really wants to take Windows. And it goes MUCH deeper than "LOL wut, touchscreen controls on my PC?"

 

It makes a lot more sense when you realize that the "Desktop environment" in Windows 8 is backwards compatibility which will be phased out of Windows completely in 2 or 3 generations. Just like MS-DOS and 16-bit applications faded to the background as obsolete subsystems as newer and better systems with modern APIs took their place. Windows 8 is clearly designed around the features of the Metro apps, and the Metro API will continue to grow and expand, and the "legacy" desktop software we all run today will slowly fade to the background. At least, that's what Microsoft is hoping.

 

The clear giveaway is the clear segregation between the legacy desktop and the Metro start screen, and the fact that software developers are not allowed to sell any software which uses Metro features unless it's approved by Microsoft and sold from the app store.

 

When Microsoft gets enough Metro apps approved for the app store, they can release versions of windows that do away with the desktop (just like the RT Tablets are doing now) and the vast majority of home computer users won't care because the app store will do everything they wanted, which isn't very much to begin with (Facebook, Youtube, Wikipedia, MS Word, and Solitaire, and 35% of PC users are set!)

 

Granted, there will always be ways for "power users" to work around it to install and use the software they want, but when you talk about a software economy, that is, the buying, selling, and distribution of software, the independently-operating software developers will get the short end of the stick, as their software and the platform it runs on will be pushed to the background as Microsoft shines the spotlight on their proprietary Metro app store. Everything that's not in the app store will slowly fade out of general consciousness, and the developers who distribute them will find that their endeavors are not profitable anymore.

 

Notch's fears are well-founded and I support the statement he's made.

RefuGeelas1983
RefuGeelas1983

I dont know maybe Microsoft should of named it VISTA 8 (2012 repack) I like my Win 7, Thank you very  much. Instead of improving on a already awesome OS "WIN7" with a "service pack 2" to optimize file transfers and all the other BS ppl say win8 is faster at. They abandon it all together just to create an UGLY offspring that even its own mother Bill Gates wont be willing to breast feed LMAO!!!

jmich456
jmich456

Windows 8 is just fine once you realize the metro interface is just a full screen start menu... Involving gaming... every game I have tried runs fine. Windows 8 is also better optimized for file transfers, threading and video encoding. Don't knock it till you try it!

jenovaschilld
jenovaschilld

I have been gaming since for close to 25yrs now on many consoles, pc's, and playgrounds.  As time and gaming moves on you start to see a pattern- at least i have- new consoles come out - cries of pc gaming is gonna die!  Consoles get old and cries of consoles are gonna die - pc gaming rules all. 

 

It is the same old thing just different media to put your games on. 5 1/4 floppy with Karataka is alot different then downloading Dust onto my ps3.  But the gaming is still the same.  

 

Minecraft is one of my favorite new games and i have enjoyed it alot on pc and xbox live- xbl a little more just because how easy it is for a few people to play it in the same room. Anyways its playing fine on Win8 but it will be a while before I can give my finale eval of win8. There seems to be alot of panicking in the below posts which all seem to be without any reason. My advice; give it a try - play as often as you can- DO NOT watch reality tv, and everything will be fine. No company can successfully make a closed gaming system - it will always find a way to slip out. 

 

Oh yeah, windows vista really was a horrible system for gaming do to all the hidden resources it used in the background- a RAM hog. Win 7 was alot better. And i can say the same about alot of consoles. 

I would love to see google chrome release a free or cheap OS that was as clean and low resource as chrome browser is.  We gamers don't need resource hogs running in the background. 

Hurvl
Hurvl

By the time I'm done with my behemoth of a backlog of games, Windows 9 or even 10 will be out and I can choose something else besides the unappealing looking Windows 8. It's just like when I went from Windows XP to Windows 7. Every computer retailer labeled their computers with "comes with Windows Vista" for a period, which I assume was supposed to entice to buy their stuff, but that backfired. Then Windows 7 came out and I no longer had to shun their stores and now I have a Windows 7 laptop gaming computer. My backlog begins in 2006 (still playing games from 2000-2004), so I can handle most of those games, even though this is only a laptop (Dual Core, 4 GB RAM, Radeon HD 6650). I think the same will happen now, that computer retailers will pretend like Windows 8 is all fine and dandy and it's hardly possible to get a new computer that doesn't come with Windows 8. I can bide my time until the moment is right and another Windows OS comes along.

cheamo
cheamo

Weird that it's coming out in a month, but most of us have been able to get it for a long time now.

vackillers
vackillers

Windows 7 does everything I need it to, untill I am completely forced to change OS's because of Direct X 12 wont be on win 7 or something to that effect, i will say NO win Win8. Its just an adoption from the windows smart phone, its the EXACT same OS, which is fucking usless unless you have a touch screen monitor, and who the fuck has one of those? half the shit in there is emulated, not a hard coded operating system, restrictions up the ying yang, and hurts game developers so much its rediculas, its like they smashed pieces of xbox live with windows smart phone OS, EPIC FAIL!!!! and the sales are so going to show that its a fail as well... no one wants it, hardly anyone likes it from all parts of the world, and even game developers dont either, but its pretty sad that microsoft are focing ppl to buy a fucking console to play games if they stick with their current mindset...

 

Roll on linux i suppose if this doesn't change quick...

snowSHO
snowSHO

Gamespot News is like TMZ for video games.

rusty12000
rusty12000

good work notch. i know im never going to buy the trash called windows 8, hopefully developers keep supporting windows 7. im sad to see microsoft is ruining PC's :(..... gready bastards....

Hvac0120
Hvac0120

Minecraft, as it is designed today, will run on Windows 8.

 

I've been running Windows 8 on a laptop for about 6 months. I've recently updated to the RTM version. While the Modern UI (Metro) stuff is there and is forced in some ways, it doesn't prevent older games from running as long as they were compatible on Windows 7.

 

This means Steam and the games you download from it still run. They just don't use the Modern UI features.

 

Plus old games get boosted performance with Windows 8. There are several refinements to the OS that make it perform much more efficiently meaning you've got more resources available for boosting the performance of your games.

 

I agree with "Notch" that Microsoft should not force developers into a closed ecosystem like Apple has done with it's App Store. That would be bad. But Microsoft has done it's job to make sure that the old system is still there and performs better than before. You just have to get around the weird-ness that comes along with using Windows 8 (esp if not on a touch screen). 

cryingdevil63
cryingdevil63

Seriously? Now Microsoft it making new OS's every 1-2 years? NO THANKS!

 

TheJamin
TheJamin

Apparently despite overclocking being in the uefi/bios if you overclock and run w8 expect a lot of their new bsods. i saw a few people who overclocked their gpu by a single mhz to find a bsod. this is another reason why I won't be upgrading to w8.

GH05T-666
GH05T-666

someone needs to create a new gaming only operating system and do away with sh*tty Apple and Microsoft from taking millions of dollars and locking us away from things. i just want an open OS that u can do as u like and everything works but its made especially for gaming. i dont want touch screen interface. its not fun or cool. just difficult and inaccurate and i grantee it will be so glitchy when it comes out at least for the first year!

GH05T-666
GH05T-666

Windows 8 looks like touch phone and tablet software not like a new PC software. 

I hope you can make it run in classic view because I'm not interested at all with touch screen functions on my PC!

Please just make it run smooth and be compatible with everything windows.

You could kill yourself by locking out games and certan things

GetafixOz
GetafixOz

I have often been quick to jump at new versions of windows (having been considering OS options since Dos1), however I got all "luditey" after XP because it worked quite well and certainly better than Vista(gag). So when I finally capitulated and got Win7 I was really pleasantly surprised how good Win7 was. I doubt I will risk my current perfect stability and gaming fun for another unproven OS for at least the first 12 months. As for Notch, just take the money man.... I would...

karnis
karnis

I am not buying windows 8 & I agree with notch especially when microsoft is going the same route as apple

StSk8ter29
StSk8ter29

That's because Windows 8 is a turd covered in plastic wrap and doused in garbage juice.

WCK619
WCK619

I'm confused... I hate Windows 8's touchscreen interface, but I haven't heard anything about it turning the PC into a closed platform. Can someone fill me in?

consoleclassix
consoleclassix

LOL!!!  Look like this man hate Windows 8. Same other people hate Windows 8. Don't buy Windows 8.  I got idea! If anyone use Windows 8, install VMware program to install on this computer then install Windows XP, Vista or 7 on Windows 8 then boom! Game should work and play in VMware to use emulator for Windows to running on it. Smart way to do like that. 

DevaGolgotha
DevaGolgotha

I was planning to stick with Windows 7 anyway, so it's fine for me.

dahaoleboy69
dahaoleboy69

Windows 8 seems ok, if they don't lock up the system like Macs.

S0ulReav3r
S0ulReav3r

the current desktop design is a standart whether you are using a OSx Linux or windows.... with this new redesign  win8 is only going to complicate the life of 80% windows users. with this trend automobile companies might as well replace steering wheel with a touchscreen  pad or a kinect like sensor

franzito
franzito

I really don't care about operating systems as long as the computer works without major problems. I 'm happy with 7, already had a Vista, liked XP a long time ago and not looking forward to 8! I get the system that comes with the computer, I'm not one of those geek people who get off over updating to the latest version every time a new version comes out.

Sideshow_me
Sideshow_me

OS for touchscreen phones and tablets DO NOT WORK for desktop pc's.. /end of message

mstrchf12
mstrchf12

One nail in the coffin for Windows 8.

DAOWAce
DAOWAce

I like that attitude, even if people think he's a hypocrite.

 

Windows 8 has a bigger backlash than Vista, and Vista was NOWHERE near as bad as people made it out to be.  (I'd know, I've been using it since I upgraded to a DX10 system after its release)  Windows 8 is a terrible OS for desktops. I doubt Microsoft will learn from this at all.  I expect them to combine even more features into Windows 9 to work on even more devices.

 

For me, Vista is the last good semi-stock OS.  7 is manageable with a lot of UI modding to reverse the completely illogical and pointless decisions made from Vista to 7.

 

I still have to go back to Windows XP to run classic games properly with full hardware acceleration anyway.  Sometimes ALchemy is more trouble than its worth.  In that way, Windows XP was the last great OS.

ed_h
ed_h

I drift in an out of understanding what this is about, so you cannot install apps freely on Windows 8? Is it referring to the Microsoft Marketplace on the desktop or Windows RT tablets again? I see this news on every gaming website, but no one explains what it actually means. I highly doubt Microsoft will only allow software installs via its market place on the desktop, on RT sure. Besides isn't Xbox Live a closed platform? So is iOS, minecraft is on the Apple app store, or the Amazon Kindle app store or even Steam ... is Steam an open platform? I guess I don't understand what is an open platform.

jer_1
jer_1

Good for notch, screw Dickrosoft...

PoofMaester
PoofMaester

I wasn't going to buy Windows 8 in the first place, Who want's a windows 7 phone as an OS for their PC? I love Win7 and sticking with that untill 9 comes out.

LikaLaruku
LikaLaruku

I'm on Notch's side. Though I don't now why Microsoft asked Notch when he left the Minecraft team & gave it to Jens, like a year ago. 

 

I haven't heard anyone say anything nice about Windows 8; even Maximum PC who dotes on Windows was spitting venom about W8 & discouraging readers from upgrading; likely still sore over a year of glorifying Vista only to be let down hard.

 

I hear W8 is supposed to be incompatible for PC games of previous Windows versions. If it's true, then Microsoft can go f**k itself.

 

I love the ignorance of the previous commenters; none of you are aware how much Minecraft has changed & added & how involved the community is. the developers tell us everything, every goddamn thing, no secrets. they ask our opinions, they hire our best modders & give them cushy jobs, they throw epic conventions, they show us what's coming out & ask us for our opinions, & they keep dishing out new content at no cost.

DinoBuster
DinoBuster

I still find it hilarious that a game about punching trees for hours on end has elevated this man's ego to such a level.

Xplode_77
Xplode_77

I think the MInecraft devs should make it run on Windows 8, but not be exactly tied to WIndows 8 as MS want it to be. It seems like Notch wants this game to be run on as many OS's and computers as it can. Play with freedom.

Resergam
Resergam

Killing legos just wasn't enough, he's got the sent of blood and wants moar...Microsoft shall fall...and then....ZEE WORRLLLLLD

BlazeKingz
BlazeKingz

now that he made enough money off microsoft he just doesnt give a fuck.

lonewolf1044
lonewolf1044

Oh well, like the PC world evolves Minecraft, when there are better games to be played.

Axe_Armor
Axe_Armor

Seeing an OS like W8 on the horizon makes me wanna try out Linux more than ever...

JohnMafia
JohnMafia

Why can't he be just a game developer. He acts like Minecraft is a gift to mankind and since he created it, he can use it to push various agendas.