Nintendo: We have failed to establish Wii U as a "worthy" Wii successor

President Satoru Iwata says "We have so far failed to make propositions worthy of Wii U's position as a successor to the Wii system."

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The Wii U has struggled so far, selling 3.91 million units globally since launch, below Nintendo's expectations for the platform. Part of the difficulty of getting the platform off the ground comes down to Nintendo's inability to release games and services that demonstrate the Wii U's novelty relative to the original Wii, president Satoru Iwata has said.

"Except for its backward compatibility with existing Wii software and accessories, we have so far failed to make propositions worthy of Wii U's position as a successor to the Wii system," Iwata said during Nintendo's second quarter financial results briefing.

Wii Sports Club for Wii U and Wii Fit U, sequels to "defining" Wii games, are now available in Japan. These titles should help spur sales in Japan and abroad, but success won't come overnight, Iwata cautioned.

"I remarked a while ago that it is difficult to change our prospects with just one title. Our objective for Wii U for the upcoming year-end sales season will be to dramatically change the environment surrounding Wii U with multiple key titles that can appeal to a wide range of consumers," he said.

The "key title" and "central pillar" for Wii U this holiday season, Iwata said, is Super Mario 3D World, which will be released on November 22. Other games that Nintendo has high hopes for are Wii Party U (ideal to play at New Year's holiday gatherings, Iwata said) and Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games.

Nintendo will also release Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze in December, before high-profile games like Mario Kart 8 and Super Smash Bros. arrive in 2014.

Discussion

1301 comments
ted_mongel
ted_mongel

Need to rely less on Mario and Zelda games. Granted, those are important franchises, but it's like that all they are concerned with is continuously rehashing the same games I played 20 years ago.

the_mode_red
the_mode_red

These comments are a little frustrating. I want Nintendo to succeed! It takes cold-blooded talent and determination mixed with purpose and vision. It takes courage and stepping out of bounds to gain ground. Nintendo needs 20 quality titles on the table that are either exclusive or best on Nintendo Wii U. They need to have pretty boxes, a pack-in or online downloads and printouts, and they need to each be the sh!!7 everyone wants to play from all demographics. Old gamers, new gamers, young gamers, jaded gamers alike need to have 20 Nintendo boxes on their table and love it. Only 4 or 5 of those should be Mario, Zelda or mini games. The rest need to be on par and hitting the other demographics while also being exclusive. 20.

ronnieo54
ronnieo54

I play the crap out of my wii u. I hope it doesn't go the way of the dreamcast. 

bluefox755
bluefox755

I don't think anyone wants nintendo to fail, I think people want them to step up their game and stop being lazy, be the Nintendo they used to be.

notjustin
notjustin

i like mine just gotta wait for them to make games for it

jcknapier711
jcknapier711

They should not have marketed it as a controller.  I really thought it was just a controller for the Wii.

stev69
stev69

"Nintendo: We have failed to establish Wii U as a "worthy" Wii successor"


We know.

mjswooosh
mjswooosh

What's with all the 12 yr old trolls in here rooting for Nintendo to fail. Time to get back on the meds kiddies.


Aside from that, Nintendo will be just fine. They have a ton of cash. The Wii was wildly successful. The Wii U will be fine for another couple years. What they need to do is lower the price again to $199 or $249 with a pack-in game and get a few more system seller games out. Then in 2015-16 introduce a new system once the newness factor of the PS4/Xbone fades.

rennanvale
rennanvale

Click bait title for the retards that can't read, but i can help you guys:

"We have SO FAR failed to make propositions worthy of Wii U's position as a successor to the Wii system."

KiriharaZro
KiriharaZro

They failed since N64, just little sparks on Gamecube but for me the last great console from Nintendo was the Snes.

lorider25
lorider25

Wii U is just terrible, is there any fanboys left for Nintendo?

Oh wait,  I spot one! abHS4L88! LMAO! Keep on fighting the losing fight man! Hahahaha!!!


ssj4timoteo
ssj4timoteo

Simple solution: Internet.  Online Playable internet.  This whole internet thing is here to stay, so Nintendo needs to get out of the 90's and start making games that you can actual play online, not just post a statement that others can see.

guzhead
guzhead

Took them long enough to admit it!

TheKingIAm
TheKingIAm

The Wii Ewww is such an awful console. Nintengodno needs to just hand over their IPs to sony

Neosonic23
Neosonic23

Nintendo failed the moment they began marketing nothing but 3DS products since Last Holiday Season.

Its Nintendos fault the Wii U went down the hole..

iloveyourface
iloveyourface

i play my wii about every weekend along with my original xbox. i dont know why they made another wii so quickly. they should've just stuck with the original wii. nintendo fans like me don't care about the hardware. we just want fun games. it's like they pulled a dreamcast or somethin'. great console, but just horrific timing and lackluster releases. why take a step up when you're already at the top? 


IN OTHER WORDS, NINTENDO. YOU DONE GOOFED. CUT YOUR LOSSES AND GO BACK TO SQUARE ONE..... AND MAKE MORE AWESOME ROLE PLAYING GAMES AND STUFF AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *falls into a huge pit filled with marshmellows and one small needle* OWWWWW!!!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE MY CHANCES OF ALLLL THESE MARSHMELLOWS AND LANDING ON THIS NEEDLE AHHHHHHHH I'M GOING TO NEED A BAND-AID STAT!!!!"

giantming
giantming

wel... didn't we go over this?


lnrdwshtn
lnrdwshtn

The first day I got my WII u it shit the bed, the controller is awkward and the games are minimal...completely dissapointed if anyone wants to buy a refurbished wii u, ill sell it to you for $140.

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

@mjswooosh How does rooting for Nintendo to fail make you a 12 year old? I'm pretty sure most people uninterested in Nintendo at this point are definitely adults who grew up with Nintendo and tired of seeing them pretend to be in the industry. Nintendo needs to ditch hardware, stick with handhelds only, and just start making games.

And, you realize 2015 is basically 1 year away. They can't just go "Well nice try, let's develop another console." when there is no market for even their existing one. There is absolutely no reason to think that "trying again" would result in any success - especially after scorning customers by dropping the Wii U console after less than 2 years.

19James89
19James89

@KiriharaZro Nintendo haven't failed at all, they have made a profit on every console they have released apart from that virtual boy rubbish back in 95/96.

mjswooosh
mjswooosh

@lorider25 I'm not a huge "Nintendo Fan" but I don't want them to fail. People like you sound like you're about 12 yrs old and off your meds. Chill out. Competition is good. And Nintendo makes some wonderful, family oriented games. All true gamers should root for them to succeed on some level.

the_repo_man6754
the_repo_man6754

@lorider25 You trolls are just terrible> Is the any signs of humanity left? 

Oh wait. . . . . No there LMAO! Keep on fighting the losing fight man! Hahahaha!!!

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@ssj4timoteo 

I love how just because Super Mario 3D World and Pikmin 3 don't have online multiplayer, everyone's already forgotten how many of their games have already featured online multiplayer. 

guzhead
guzhead

@ssj4timoteo But then Nintendo players might find themselves playing online with a gamer who has a potty mouth and Nintendo doesn't like non child friendly things.

the_repo_man6754
the_repo_man6754

@Neosonic23 You troll failed the moment you can read a post. 

It's GameSpot's fault as to why these trolls don't know how to read. 

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

@iloveyourface See except you're missing a very important fact: There aren't fun games. On the Wii U. There are a few on Wii, but that doesn't make up for how old and bad it was even on release.

guzhead
guzhead

@iloveyourface I loved Nintendo.  Key word there is loved.  I have many NES, SNES, and N64 ROMS on my computer that I play often.  The new games just don't do it for me.  I'm sure Zelda A Link Between worlds is a very good game but it will never be at the same level as A Link to The Past.  Same thing with Mario.  Super Mario Galaxy was very good but the last time a Mario game was truly ground breaking was Super Mario 64.  At this point all Nintendo games are just stagnating.  They need some new original characters for a new game series.

notjustin
notjustin

@Khasym @stev69 i didn't i'm ready for mairo 3d world and nintendo first party games always grade a

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@Grenadeh 

It doesn't make you a 12 year old, but it does make you rather immature. Nintendo's an entertainment company that does a lot of good for the industry and is just a positive company in general, it's not like they're trying to poison lakes, hurt children, or destroy nature so wanting them to fail just because they don't cater to your needs is extremely immature. 

"Pretend to be in the industry" yet a lot of what they do creates buzz, is widely talked about, and the games they put out still rank as some of the best and most popular. I fail to see how they're "not" part of the industry, especially when Sony and Microsoft tend to pay very close attention to what Nintendo does. Why should they ditch consoles? Just because they're not doing what Sony and Microsoft are doing? 

Does anyone here not see how valuable the Wii was for the gaming industry? This is an industry, meaning that more sales equals more money circulation, the Wii greatly encouraged consumers to own two consoles. For the first time ever in the history of gaming, all major consoles in a generation were highly successful, that most likely wouldn't have happened if the Wii didn't exist due to how different it was compared to the PS3/360. This is precisely why Nintendo is still very much needed in the industry, because they do things differently.

You're right about the 2015 thing though.

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

@mjswooosh @lorider25 Nintendo doesn't offer any competition. They don't have competitors. Sony literally gave up on the Vita a long time ago - Vita and PSP are the only market where Nintendo has competition. Other than that, no, because Nintendo isn't even a competitor in the console market. They will be, when they start offering some games, but until then - and it will be forever - no one gives a hoot.

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

@guzhead @ssj4timoteo I'm pretty sure 99% of every game thats ever been on Nintendo was violent But not first party I guess. Not that Nintendo games weren't adult.

mjswooosh
mjswooosh

@wcwj26 Sony has a ton more 1st party dev houses under its umbrella than MS does and produces more high quality exclusives as a result. What are you talking about?

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@Grenadeh 

Majority of their best games (and best selling) are on home consoles, that's why they should stick with it, plain and simple. The reason why we're seeing more 3DS games is simply because 3DS games are much easier/quicker to develop than Wii U titles. Do you honestly think they'd "take it seriously" as a 3rd party? One of the driving forces of their software has always been their hardware, take that away and how well do you think they'll perform? We've already seen what happens to other developers when they're forced out of the area they performed best in, whether it be SEGA or Rare. 

No 3rd party support? Let me fix that for you, you mean "Barely any WESTERN 3rd party support" because Nintendo still has strong support from SEGA, Atlus, Platinum, Namco-Bandai, Level-5, even Capcom and Square-Enix on occasion, as well as Ubisoft, Activison, and a great deal of Indie developers. 

Those are the games that'll sell consoles believe or not, which is why it makes sense for Nintendo to come out with those first, then after the system has sold a good amount of units, start coming out with the other franchises. 

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

@abHS4L88 @Grenadeh I didn't say they aren't needed, they are, I agree. But they need to get out of the hardware game or start taking it seriously. I'm not joking when I say the good nintendo games are on DS. I went looking for RPGs not long ago and literally the only RPGs around are on 3DS or DS. Not including the Japanese just...shit, for lack of a better term.

And yes I like Persona and Atlus in general but when I look at the shelf and every single last RPG I pick up looks identical, I'm sorry - no sale. But the 90s are gone so whatever, I give up on that.

The other genres are the same story. Every new mario and zelda game, and pokemon, basically is made for 3DS. Even the good 3rd party games like Revelations was on 3DS first.

Why shouldn't they ditch consoles? Nintendo has no third party support. What little they had is gone at this point.  Third party is what makes the success of a console. Not first party. And, Nintendo is utterly failing at first party too. Mario Kart 8? Big deal. Nintendoland? Super Mario Luigi whatever 3D land? Oh goody. They are sitting IPs and doing absolutely nothing with them on their console.

All the games get made for 3DS, like Link between Worlds. There is flat out no reason to have a Wii U - the Wii, yes.

You don't have to do what your competitors are doing but it happens to be called "competition" for a reason. If you're playing mini-golf while your competitors are all playing a completely different game, you aren't exactly a competitor.

They approached Wii U with reckless indifference and you see the results. Nintendo should exit the console market, get their shit straight, and come back with something interesting.

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

@abHS4L88 @WolfGrey BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no. You are 1000000% wrong. I was going to try to actually think of one but after the ridiculous joke of  your last sentence I can't be bothered.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@WolfGrey

True, considering what happened to Rare's IPs after they were in Microsoft's possession. My point is that franchises tend to never have their same charm or feel when they're under a brand new company. Can we think of any franchise that managed to survive being under a new developer? Even when franchises theat built themselves exclusively on one console find their way to other platforms, they tend to lose what made them special. The only franchise I could think of that only became more popular and succeeded with the switch was Final Fantasy. 

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

@mjswooosh @wcwj26 Not....really. You Sonies keep making that claim yet independent gamers who can use their heads and stop sucking either company off are all over the place stating the truth, that none of these exclusives from either side are particularly impressive. 

Yea, MS doesn't own a lot of development houses, true. They have more exclusives, though, and frankly many of them are better actual games - not movies - even if they aren't first party. Unfortunately though, most of them got ported to PS3 because they're timed.

Anyway, Nintendo doesn't have that many IPs. Half of them need to go away too.