Miyamoto, Retro working on 'fantastic' Wii U games

Nintendo of America president reveals Mario creator, Metroid studio building new games for upcoming console; announcements likely for E3.

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The Wii U will launch with 52 games by April 2013, but there's more in the pipeline, at least two of which are from well-respected Nintendo studios and the Mario creator himself. Speaking during the latest installment of Game Trailers TV, Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime said new Wii U projects from Shigeru Miyamoto and Metroid developer Retro Studios are in the works.

What might Miyamoto be making for the Wii U?

"I could get myself fired by breaking all of the news here on your show, but rest assured, Mr. Miyamoto and the team at EAD are working on fantastic projects," Fils-Aime said. "Rest assured that Retro is working on a fantastic project. We've got big games in development that are coming that are going to continue to drive the install base of the system."

Concerning when these projects might be announced, Fils-Aime said that the 2013 Electronic Entertainment Expo is a likely bet. He added that it could be earlier or later, depending on how the games are progressing.

Retro Studios' most recent game was Donkey Kong Country Returns, which was released in November 2010 to a warm critical reception and sales of nearly 5 million units. The studio also collaborated with Nintendo EAD on 2011's Mario Kart 7, and was named by Miyamoto as a candidate to work on a future Legend of Zelda installment.

As for Miyamoto's project, earlier this year, he confirmed he was working on a new and original game. The iconic developer explained that "people have come to expect a lot from me," adding that he feels pressure to come through, but ultimately this does not get in the way of his development process.

Discussion

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Jago-Vs-Fulgore
Jago-Vs-Fulgore

Starfox and Metroid cross over is not a bad idea. YES A NEW EARTHBOUND would be awesome. 

DevaGolgotha
DevaGolgotha

Earthbound for Virtual Console, please...

nintendoboy16
nintendoboy16

Really as a fan of Metroid and Retro Studios... I think they need to move on from each other. I was freaking hyped as hell when I saw that Retro Studios was developing Donkey Kong Country Returns at E3 2010 (watching the live streams) and when I played the game, I got what I asked for: a great Donkey Kong platformer (which we haven't had in a long time, thanks to DK being used for critically panned or uninteresting spinoffs) done by a great developer willing to move on.

 

Nobody got on Rare's hide forcing them to stick to Donkey Kong (which they did develop quite a bit of), when they spread out with Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Banjo-Kazooie, and Conker. Why get on Retro Studios to stick to Metroid when even they need to move on or spread out from that series?

 

beepbobby
beepbobby

starfox metroid cross over game is a bad idea

Trickymaster
Trickymaster

I hope some heads at Retro trump Miyamoto and push for some epic graphics as well.

da_chub
da_chub

game 1...rumored metroid/star fox game that may be decent but fans dont want.  2nd game had better not be a zelda/kid icarus game...but  i can see it being a stand alone of either of those last 2.

dawnofhero
dawnofhero

Personally, Smash Bros U is what I've got my eye on. That game alone could be the sole reason to buying a Wii U for a lot of gamers.

sonicare
sonicare

In other words, Nintendo is working on the next Mario, Zelda, and Metroid games.

DJCartmell
DJCartmell

As a former Nintendo fan being conned into getting a Wii and 3DS which ended up collecting dust more than playing games Nintendo will have to do something really miraculous to make me want to purchase their Wii-U. The problem with the Wii was it had a great concept to innovate things through a different control scheme yes but the problem with that console was the excellent games to look forward to were too few and far between (almost waiting several months to nearly a year) where as the other consoles (not forgetting PC) were getting lots of cool stuff on a more frequent basis! Finally let's face it the machine was practically redesigned 128 bit Gamecube masquerading as a next gen console. I'm going to wait 2 years into this machine's life before I even dare  consider contemplating whether or not to get it.

HalcyonScarlet
HalcyonScarlet

lol as opposed to what? Developing terrible games.

OtherFabbros
OtherFabbros

I do not give a f**k what games they done... if they done great Nintendo games as they have done with N64, and Gamecube, my money are always ready to be taken!

 

IN A NUTSHELL :  MIYAMOTO, SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!

GH05T-666
GH05T-666

Please bring back any of these on Wii U:

F-Zero

Star Fox

Metroid

Banjo-Kazooie

Bomberman

Yoshi's Story

Conker's Bad Fur Day (or new title)

Secret of Mana

Excitebike

Wave Race

1080 Snowboarding

Snowboard Kids

 

Lykanthropie
Lykanthropie

When Retro is making a Zelda Game i hope it will be a hyrule zelda like a link to past, ocarina of time and twilight princess, iam sure it would look awesome and could be the best game for nintendos next gen system with awesome graphics looking up to date even in the end of the wiius lifeline - DKCR Graphics were made so nice and  looked great even with the wii's low resolution - Just a Zelda game from retro would be a reason to buy the wiiu. But as mentioned it would be future title it wouldnt expect it until 2016/17

Lykanthropie
Lykanthropie

All games Retro made are just awesome and always a must have for nintendo fans or just gamers who love to play a super aaa game. Metroid Prime is one of the best shooters ever, and the best shooter ever made for a home console. Their Graphics are just beautyfull, creative  and impressive - DKCR is one of the best looking games on wii, gameplay is perfect, just like all their other games - I think it doesnt matter what a franchise they are realising, A Retro Game seems to be something you can trust.

Guess nintendo will have a huge success with the wiiu, and its first party games.

All 3rd party games coming are just good to have and hope it wont take to long till we see mario and zelda or samus and donkey kong. It Seems the Wiiu will be the console nintendo fans waited for since the snes. Maybe its selling as good as the wii or the ds or 3ds, wouldn't be suprising. possible up to 20 million units may will be sold within the first 15 mounths. And i think nintendo will do everything to have that succuss, who knows when we see new consoles from sony and ms, maybe at the end of next year maybe not, there is also the question how much better is a system thats out only 1 year after the wiiu, and how much it will coast, sony said that they dont want to subventinging a new console again and i dont expect to see a 600$ console called ps4 standing in shelfs at the end of 2013, it was the biggest mistake sony made, the psx and ps2 had a weak system but a huge success, same for all other consoles. The nes and the snes, the PS1 & PS2 and the Wii too, even the ds and 3ds. Guess the Wii will have graphics everyone will be happy with, loading times too. Graphics are also not only limited to high resolution and as much details as possible, artistical design matters a lot and always did since the nes.

jon_bone
jon_bone

I really miss Rareware, they were one of my favorite game developers back in the day. Retro Studios reminds me of Rareware in the 90s.

ebonyflame
ebonyflame

Unless they are working on another stellar entry in the Metroid universe nobody really cares. The only other game that comes to memory that I can think of that they made that people really cared about is Mario Kart 7.

NkoSekirei
NkoSekirei

Metroid Prime 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

santinegrete
santinegrete

A new Metroid, seriously. And remember: bland personality isn't better that not defined personality for you legendary character.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @nintendoboy16 

Indeed, if anything, bring Metroid back to its 2D roots, it could even be a an awesome eShop title that could later evolve into a full on retail game. 

 

Let Retro either create new IP or take on a different one (F-Zero???)

DevaGolgotha
DevaGolgotha

 @da_chub Zelda's not coming out until 2014, and Sakurai said he's not gonna make another Kid Icarus game, and no one has any plans to, so...

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @sonicare 

You forgot to read "As for Miyamoto's project, earlier this year, he confirmed he was working on a new and original game."

hitman047m4
hitman047m4

 @DJCartmell I do agree with you in some aspects of your comment. For example, it is true that the other consoles had more titles than the Wii, and that contribute to many early adopters (or Wii gamers in general) to turn their attention to the other consoles, which was understandable.

 

About the Wii being a Gamecube masquerading as a next gen console, well a quick Wikipedia look will tell you the opposite ;). But yes, we all know it was not a powerful system. I think Nintendo was trying to go the opposite way from their vision with the Gamecube, which was a powerful console, and an underrated one too.

 

It is unfortunate for many game developers and gamers that the Wii did not support HD format from the start (compared to the other consoles), but that was Nintendo's decision (whether we like it or not), and in the end it is true it hurt them somehow when it came to support from gamers and developers alike.

 

About the Nintendo console(s) collecting dust; I do not know what kind of gamer are you (please do not take this is as an insult), but I think most people (including myself) got the wrong idea about the Wii and decided no to look beyond the obvious (or 1st party titles). There are great games for the console, and I am not a demanding gamer, since I have been playing since 1988; and I play my 3DS, PS3 and Wii a lot... none of them collect dust, since all the games that I have adquire were handpicked.... Between my girlfriend and I, we own more or less 100 Wii (I am not counting ports from previous consoles or emulations) games and we are very satisfied with the catalogue that we have.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @GH05T-666 

The creators of Banjo-Kazooie are teaming up to create the spiritual successor to Banjo-Tooie so fingers crossed that it's for the Wii U! Hopefully the devs of Conker's Bad Fur Day do the same. I would LOVE a new Bomberman also, with the GamePad, it could add a whole new level of gameplay.

FlawlessGoBot
FlawlessGoBot

 @Lykanthropie I'm not trying to be a Sony Pony here, but the main thing I keyed in on in your diatribe was that "psx and ps2 had a weak system". Granted you acknowledged their success, but I'm curious as to your justification of this statement.

mpikatellis
mpikatellis

 @Lykanthropie "Metroid Prime is one of the best shooters ever, and the best shooter ever made for a home console. Their Graphics are just beautyfull, creative  and impressive"

 

That is such an over estimate. FAR from reality. You are surely living in the past man. I've played all three Prime games and graphics SUCKED in all three of them. I am a Nintendo fun too, but not a blind one. Have you ever played a HD game on PS3/XBox360? Have you ever played a FPS on the PS3? The Wii was NEVER part of this generation and I don't understand how some of you Nintendo funs play games on SD and come out and say "graphics are beautiful". Yeah bro, graphics on Super Mario Bros 1 were beautiful too, for their time! You are so naive and the more you keep cultivating this ideology, Nintendo will never catch up with the rest.

FlawlessGoBot
FlawlessGoBot

 @ebonyflame There are a lot more games then just Metroid people want to see out of this. Granted it is in the running, but there have been requests in this thread alone for such as Star Fox, F-Zero, and even Donkey Kong.

littleb75
littleb75

 @abHS4L88  @GH05T-666 both banjo and conker were were RARE titles. who now are stuck making crapping KINECT games as punishment for PERECT DARK ZERO. MICROSOFT isnt coming those properties if there is chance for reboots.

TTDog
TTDog

 @abHS4L88 Already had a sequel to Tooie... Nuts & Bolts on the 360, harshly treated and criminally undersold... great little game. Think the rights to the name (and Conker's) may now be held by Microsoft.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @mpikatellis  @Lykanthropie 

It's not being blind, it's appreciating the creativity, effort and time put into crafting these games. You say people who think these titles are beautiful are blind yet your only justification is that they suck because it's in SD. The fact that the game still holds up by today's standards despite being made nearly a decade ago just shows the amazing amount of work put into creating the game. 

 

Okami and Windwaker are also great examples of games that still look amazing today despite their old age. Both Mario Galaxies looked just as good as HD games, even Kirby's Epic Yarn won and was nominated for several "Best Graphics of 2010" awards. 

 

I actually don't understand how you could let something like "It's not in HD so it's hideous" get in the way of fully appreciating the amazing world that the developers created for us. Xenoblade (while the characters didn't look all that) the environments were breathtaking, coupled with the perfectly orchestrated soundtrack. 

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @littleb75  @GH05T-666 

But majority of the most talented Rare developers are no longer there, my hope is that if this spiritual successor of Banjo-Tooie kicks off, they'll turn into a real studio and bring back the magic of RareWare.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @TTDog 

When they switched over to Microsoft, Microsoft made it clear that they wanted Rare to create games that had a broader appeal and after Perfect Dark Zero, they didn't allow them to make M rated games anymore. 

 

While Nuts & Bolts is a great game, that really should've been another IP (like how they created Viva Pinata), the fact that it carried the name Banjo-Kazooie is what made it such a disappointment to many since it's regarded as one of the best platformers ever. 

 

http://www.notenoughshaders.com/2012/08/21/donnchadh-murphy-chats-about-rare/

TTDog
TTDog

 @abHS4L88 You have proof that they didn't want to develop a game like that other than just speculation?

 

Nuts & Bolts was a great game, the trial and error of building machines, and the challenge of building the all round machine for the final boss battle was great fun.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @TTDog 

But that's not the sequel they wanted to make which is why they're banding together to create what they truly wanted to put out the first time. The rights are still held by Rare and Microsoft, but it doesn't mean the former developers can't make their own games.

 

It's like how Mistwalker Studios makes JRPGs reminiscent of Square's earlier Final Fantasy titles. 

Omnichrono
Omnichrono

 @mpikatellis  Contrary to what many people are saying, Nintendo is not going to have to "survive" anything.  This is what naysayers have been naysaying since the days of the N64.  Nintendo know what it is doing, and they aren't going anywhere for a very long time.  I would be more surprised if they didn't outlast Sony and Microsoft in the gaming market.  

Omnichrono
Omnichrono

Thank you, sir.  I appreciate this comment.  

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @mpikatellis 

Yo, where'd this comment go? 

"man you are out of this world. you are so obsessed that you insist on missing out on reality. if you really think that Nintendo has met gamers' expectations the past 10 years then that's the end of our conversation, cause for all i know i could be talking to a 10 year old kid. i can name you a couple of dozen PS3/XBOX360 games out of my head right now that are more immersive, more fun and with better graphics than anything Nintendo had on offer the past 10 years. Not only that, but games that sold by millions, probably by magnitudes more than any of the best Wii games out there. Although i am sure your definition of fun probably lies explicitly in the lines of a pink balloon (kirby) running around in 2 dimensions. Yeah man, I've played a kirby game on gameboy when i was about 12. i also played freakin tiny toons back then. that was that."

 

This is where you and I are completely different, I've said time and time again, I don't limit myself to graphics or whatever the hell is it you judge ALL games by, which is why I have loads of fun with the games I play and are able to experience a wide variety of titles with little fear of being disappointed. 

 

Many of the titles Nintendo released on the Wii have gone to be either revolutionary or some of the best games of this generation. Yes there are a lot of great PS3/360 games out there, but let me ask you a question, how many of them were developed by 1st parties? Majority of the best PS3/360 games were developed by 3rd parties, whereas majority of the best Wii games were created by Nintendo themselves and also sold millions. 

 

I don't know what your definition of fun is, but my definition of fun in videogames is a game that I simply enjoy playing, whether it be for the story, the gameplay, combined with the visuals and soundtrack. I don't give a damn if the games I played are seen as "kiddie" games because guess what, my line of work requires me to be childlike and anyone who has a problem with that seriously has some self-esteem or a really narrow view of life. Good day and don't bother responding, I don't care for what you have to say anymore. 

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @mpikatellis 

So just because other companies are able to jam in much prettier graphics, that automatically makes Nintendo's games less worthy? That's the problem I'm seeing with what you're saying. 

 

Yes graphics are important to a degree, I want what I'm playing to be aesthetically pleasing to look at BUT at the same time, I'm not going to dismiss a game just because it doesn't look as highly detailed or "pretty" as its competitors, and again, you're comparing realistic looking games to fantasy/cartoony type games. 

 

How has Nintendo met gamer's expectation's? By delivering games that are immensely fun, extremely memorable, with great replay value, that's how. They prove themselves through gameplay and fun, not through graphics (although they still do a pretty damn good job in that department). I feel like any gamer who judges Nintendo because of graphics are being rather shallow.

 

So you think Sony and Microsoft are going to release some behemoth consoles? Highly unlikely, after everything that's happened this generation, the signs are pointing to new consoles that are going to be somewhat more powerful than the Wii U, similar to the 6th generation with the PS2, GameCube, and XBox, unless you want Sony/Microsoft to run themselves out of the industry by selling $800 consoles and raising the game prices to $70-$80 a game. 

 

http://www.notenoughshaders.com/2012/07/02/the-rise-of-costs-the-fall-of-gaming/

http://gengame.net/2012/07/wii-u-will-not-be-behind-next-generation/

mpikatellis
mpikatellis

@abHS4L88 Again, I agree with what you are saying. I like the Nintendo franchises too, but i am not obsessed or biased by them. 

 

I have never said that graphics are the sole reason, but they are definitely a major one. and when someone has played something at the level of say Red Dead Redemption, MGS4, Heavy Rain, COD, TES, etc, then you can expect his/her expectations of the industry to have grown (immediately). That's the bottom line. How has Nintendo met gamers' expectations over the past 5 years? By offering past-generation graphics on 30-year old recurring ideas?

 

The Wii U came out a bit too late, and i doubt it will survive in the contest of the next gen games. How do you fare it will do if Sony and MS release a mammoth console next year (let's say twice the ram, twice the core)? The moment developers start to downscale their games to fit on a console then that's the moment you know the company's in trouble. 

 

Needless to say, I can't wait to play a Zelda and Metroid game in full immersive HD. and it's not just the HD that makes the difference, it's the whole spec that matters (core and RAM). The bigger the kernel the bigger the development opportunities ;)

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @mpikatellis 

Oh and missed the last part of your comment, why should Nintendo have to keep up with what everyone else is doing? That is something I don't understand, they've always been about doing what they want to do when they feel it's best to do it and because of this, we've been treated with nearly 3 decades of absolutely jaw dropping games that no other company has even come close to matching. 

 

There's no confused marketing with them, the only ones confused are the ones who let something as petty as specs and graphics get in the way of why we play games, to have fun, not stare at a pretty scenery, if I wanted to do that, I'd look out my window. I haven't been gaming no where near as long as you, but I have experienced it from the Atari 2600 all the way to now and I've almost never been displeased with gaming since I've never allowed myself to be limited by graphics or specs. If I don't like a game, it's because it's not fun to me, plain and simple.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @mpikatellis 

I'm not saying HD games aren't amazing looking, I remember when playing through Lost Odyssey, some of my favorite moments were basking in the vibrant beautiful looking cities (something I always loved about Japanese RPGs), I'm just saying that one should not discount the creativity and effort put into the visuals of games just because they're not in HD, does that mean every single 3DS game looks like crap? 

 

Like I said with games like Okami and Windwaker, the art direction and style used for those games are pretty much timeless and still hold up today despite being made in the 6th generation, but just because they're not in HD they look terrible? I KNOW hardly anyone will agree with you on that. 

 

Yes, realistic type games highly benefit from HD, but more fantasy type games are able to get by because there isn't really a need for realism in these type of games. Again, look at Super Mario Galaxy and even Kirby's Epic Yarn, the visuals of these games puts many HD games to shame, yes they would've looked much better in HD. Plus you're saying don't  underestimate HD then you go on in saying that you don't expect much with the Wii U, an HD console, contradict yourself much? You saw the Zelda tech demo, Pikmin 3 looks stunning, and New Super Mario Bros. U looks very charming and visually pleasing, what more with their grand scale projects? 

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @DevaGolgotha  @mpikatellis 

Not to diminish the importance of graphics but it should NEVER be the sole reason to play or dismiss a game. I had this one Nintendo hater saying Xenoblade was crap compared to FF XIII because of (guess what??) the graphics, even though Xenoblade was highly superior in every other aspect. 

 

For me, it is awesome to see these games fleshed out exactly how the developer envisioned it, that's where graphics are important, like how Ocarina of Time 3D was what EAD originally envisioned when they first created the game on the N64.

DevaGolgotha
DevaGolgotha

 @mpikatellis  @abHS4L88 Remember when video games all looked like shit and people cared about the plot and gameplay solely?  Yeah, me too.  In any case, Metroid games have always been fun.  And I really have to say that, considering my favorite game of all time is Earthbound, I couldn't care less for graphic quality.

mpikatellis
mpikatellis

@abHS4L88I agree with you, but as i said: they looked good for their time. Games engines have moved on, graphic design has moved on. Be it for games or movies, anywhere you look at you see beautiful graphical perfection. Don't underestimate HD, just look around you. When I have in front of me games like Skyrim and CoD I just can't agree with anyone who says that the Wii version of Metroid looks beautiful. Although for the first Prime i could say it looked good for its time, for the Wii version i can only say that it WOULD HAVE looked good HAD IT BEEN released probably 15 years ago. And that's generally the case with anything Nintendo had on offer on the Wii. Sadly enough, i can say the same thing for some of the upcoming games on the Wii U. 

 

I have been playing games for over 20 years and I have seen the industry grow and blossom in all kinds of directions. Game graphics are heading towards Avatar perfection. Can't say the same for AI, but we'll probably get there someday too. Nintendo has not been keeping up and i doubt they ever will with their confused marketing and mixing of markets and all.