Microsoft: core gamers 'incredibly important' for Xbox One

Xbox exec says company's new platform will appeal to broad range of people; Kinect 2.0 is a "game-changer" for the system.

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The Xbox One is not only aimed at core gamers, though this group remains "incredibly important" for the next-generation platform, Microsoft has said.

Speaking with VentureBeat, Microsoft executive Phil Harrison said because the Xbox One is not only a game console, but also an "all-in-one" entertainment device, a new set of consumers are opened up to the system.

"By making it simple and instant and complete, it means we can get men, women, old, young to enjoy playing and interacting with the device. It's not just about core gamers; although, they are incredibly important to our future," Harrison said. "It's also about finding entry points for all members of the household."

Harrison explained that the barriers for entry are being knocked down with the Xbox One, due in part to the updated Kinect 2.0 sensor. He said that not enough attention is being paid to the Kinect automatic identity system, which can detect who is playing--without any manual input--and assemble games and content specific to them.

"One of the things that I don't think we truly understand the significance of yet is automatic identity through Kinect. If your wife or your daughter or your son or yourself starts interacting with the machine, it instantly switches to their choice of content, their profile, their personalization, their recommendation," he said. "That alone, that simplicity, is going to dramatically increase the number of people who want to interact with Xbox One. "

In fact, Harrison said he believes the most impactful element of the Xbox One is that Kinect is included with every system, as opposed to being an optional peripheral, which is the case for the Xbox 360.

"That made it difficult for developers to invest against 20 percent of the installed base or whatever it was. Having it as 100 percent--that’s a game-changer," Harrison said.

The Xbox One launches later this year, though pricing information and specific launch timing has not been divulged. According to comments from GameStop management, the Xbox One will launch at a lower price point than the Xbox 360 did in 2005.

Discussion

1371 comments
Lillypaw
Lillypaw

No Core Gamer let alone Hardcore wants Kinect it ok for a bit of fun with family but thats it I Load xbox 360 up it already signed into my profile because Hello It's my console and i'm ready to play the game in the machine at a touch of a button.  Now Kinect has to scan my face check I'm still legal owner make sure i've ate my greens and done my homework?  gah WE DON'T Want kinect and if you force it on us we won't buy your console!

I Choose to game or not to, I choose what Game to play and when to play it, I choose which platform I want to play it on.  This BOX takes those and many more choices away from me therefore I Loose the control over my gaming to you, Forget it Xbox you lost sight of the right path months if not years ago.  You want control over who plays with your console and how it is played I'll give you control because it will still be sat in your warehouse because I Choose to leave it there by not buying it.

pete420630
pete420630

no hardcore gamer uses the kinect i dont want a free one  on the 360  skipped it get me a turtle beach headset and top notch hardware thats all we realy want right.... still to early  i hate to say it but ps4 is doing what xbox did last time and microsofts doing an everything approch risky it will sell a ton i bet but not the true gamers 

pete420630
pete420630

too early to judge but i want the best one for gaming

chad28_69
chad28_69

it sure didn't seemed like it.

i bet the console will have few japanese games and even less jrpgs.

steelmouth
steelmouth

lol this guy says "core gamers 'incredibly important' for Xbox One" and he goes on to talk about kinect

damo320
damo320

Kinect 2.0 is a game changer? It sucks that you have to have that thing connected to the console permanently. Certainly a change from previous console... change for the worse.

Vertigem
Vertigem

Core gamers important to you? Really? Then release a gaming console please, not some garbage social networking glorified TV box wanabe that can play some games as well.

ZoTrAcK
ZoTrAcK

when you aim at many things at the same time, you often hit nothing

jtthegame316
jtthegame316

They say E3 is games games games. Games game games is what the core gamer wants so delivering on games  games games at e3 will show the hardcore gamer is important to them.At the mo it to early to be decided. some people are like i am getting a ps 4 or am not buying the xbox one. to me that is ridiculous at least give the xbox one a chance to show the games and the ps 4 a chance to show of something other than a multi platform game in watchdogs before making your mind up.

Fryboy101
Fryboy101

Am I the only one on these boards that really doesn't have an issue with the fact that this is more than a gaming console?  

rdwolf260
rdwolf260

The core gamer should be "extremely important" because they're the ones that rush out and buy your system at launch. All the other people who don't play games will look at it and say "hmmm, it's interesting, I might look at it later when the price drops below $200." If the core gamer is extremely important, why did you put so much effort to screw them over by implementing a cumbersome DRM? Is piracy so rampant on Xbox 360? Even though I've purchased many used games on 360, I've spent thousands on games that were brand new and thousands on digital downloads like XBLA games, DLC, movies, and even had a Zune Pass. So this coming generation, Microsoft simply says that we're not satisfied with how much money we got from you in the past, we want more going forward. Too bad, I won't let you try to bleed me dry and instead will opt to not give you any money on the next generation.

The only reason why they thought their DRM would go unnoticed is because they're targeting non-core gamers who don't know the inherent problems with such DRM schemes because they never experienced them firsthand. Many gamers have been burned by them before and M$ knew it wont fly with them, however, they did it anyway. So much for caring about the core gamers MicroShaft.

And their comment about making it "simple and instant and complete" is utter bullshit. If it was "simple" why can't they just give a straight answer to the questions about online connectivity requirement and their used game fees? That tells me it's really not that simple. "Instant" is total bullshit as well because my Xbox 360 dashboard now takes minutes to load because of all the advertising crap that's on there. In fact, when I need to go to Settings and delete some of the content from my HDD, it takes up to 5 minutes for me to be able to select my HDD in order to do so. So I'm pretty skeptical as you can see that they can actually accomplish this.

Kinect being able to recognize a person? I have Kinect now and anytime I try to sign in via Kinect into a game, it always tells me  that it can't recognize me.

This launch has been utter disaster for the "core gamer" on all fronts, and I don't see how M$ can say with a straight face that they consider a core gamer important because all the things they've put into the console pisses the core gamers off more than anything.

mwamba1
mwamba1

So this coming X1 generation, I have to buy the game, pay for internet (can't play without), pay for Xbox Live, and pay for a used game disc...then pay again to activate it. Not only that but I have this camera thats always on, always listening. Any drop in income that see's me not being able to pay for internet means I'm essentially stuck with a fancy paper-weight brick of a device. Nice 1 Microsoft.

JulyAeon
JulyAeon

personally i would have liked the choice to pick between family entertainment and game console.  it was there to a certain point with my xbox 360. i am forced to buy and pay for half of the machine i really don't need and want.  like so many i never bought the kinect for the 360, and that seems to be the core decision in forcing it onto the xbox1, otherwise it still would not sell.

B_STATS
B_STATS

And for the record. 'Core' gamers never play COD...

B_STATS
B_STATS

Being online all the time doesn't bother me. I am always online anyway when I play my 360. Some games already don't work properly unless you're online. Just go play Minecraft offline and watch the error message come up telling you some of your skin packs are corrupt. Doesn't happen online. Besides you're all here on forums crying about shit everyday. I bet you all have Facebook too. Get over it.

Dradeeus
Dradeeus

When is this a clarification and not a obvious given? When people have some reason to believe it not to be. No one watched their videos about TV, sports, and Call of Duty, and thought that gamers were the main demographic of the system.

hottgamer31
hottgamer31

Clearly the meeting wasn't about core gamers. I mean, it wasn't about gamers at all. But, it wasn't supposed to be. Microsoft made that clear before the meeting. The meeting was just a console reveal. And the company talked about the non-gaming features while they were at it to open their schedule for a full games conference at E3. What, would you guys rather Microsoft talked about Netflix during E3? And those game trailers we saw in the meeting were just put there to prevent the baffling confusion we're getting now from the gaming community. Anyway, that's my 2 cents, and I personally can't wait to find out more about the games coming to the Xbox at E3.

sensei_hEnRY
sensei_hEnRY

if you think that core gamer is incredibly important, then release an xbox one 'gaming' edition which cut anything from the standard xbox one that doesn't have anything to do with video gaming. I would be happy to get it, especially if they can cut $100 dollar from it.

stanknuggetz12
stanknuggetz12

I respect all of your opinion and I'm positive ps4 will be awesome but my loyalty is with Xbox and I'm extremely excited for the Xbox one. Too each his own.

hadlee73
hadlee73

"If your wife or your daughter or your son or yourself starts interacting with the machine...". This is where MS always lose me. No one else is interacting with my damn machine! lol

zisek
zisek

You know, I've been a Console/PC gamer since the family, and the first prince of persia on PC. And I actually like the one, I will buy it.

I don't know why there is so much trouble with it, I know the presentation wasn't so hardcore gamer-oriented, but all the games will be shown at E3.

The x1 will have all the gaming we want, plus some features, give the thing some time, What is different in the ps4?, their gamer-oriented conference?, are they gonna get different games that xbox one owners will not, just beacuase the xbox has kinect and new social-tv features? , don't think so.... all they are gonna get are the ps4 exclusives, as we will get ours... plus we have all the tv-skype-etc functions.....

Everybody is mad because of the conference, and yes it sucked, I hated the people who presented it with all their memory dialogues and scripts...., but I think the console will be better.

ollie_sr
ollie_sr

People complain about the xbox being online once every 24 hours.

Those same people spend hours bitching on the internet. 


Shielder7
Shielder7

Really Microsoft?  You could of fooled me.

slycoon6003
slycoon6003

i usually support all consoles but i think im going to skip this gen  

Master_Adeum
Master_Adeum

If core gamers are important, when why have you screwed us over with an always-on kinect? LOL

SavoyPrime
SavoyPrime

Phil Harrison reading from the MS script. They better use E3 as their chance to show how important the core really is to them. Cause the Reveal presentation sure as hell didn't.

J_Dangerously
J_Dangerously

Their actions and decisions have already betrayed the core gaming audience.  What they say is irrelevant.  What they do is everything.

sonyfreak456
sonyfreak456

I believe Microsoft is right about needing core gamers for the Xbox One. They are the people that actually buy their consoles. To sum it up, Microsoft needs more Fans for their console if they want to be the best.

steelmouth
steelmouth

@ZoTrAcK its called spaghetti something, if you throw enough spaghetti at the wall some of it will stick 

Erroneous_Snake
Erroneous_Snake

@jtthegame316 Thats not how a market works, if there are competitors in the same field providing a similar or better service with a business ideal that is more in line with what you are looking for then of course you will go with them. Microsoft should not have debuted with all the media crap when the hardcore gamers that made this console a success couldn't care less if they tried. 

They have already been accused this generation for trying to pander to the casual gamers too much and this is just more icing on the cake. If Sony focused on games from the start what reason is there to sit around and wait on Microsoft to do the same, they have already showed that they are looking to hit the widest audience instead of the focused one that has been here since the beginning.  


And this will only continue, only an idiot would think this is an isolated incident. Microsoft is going to keep aggressively pushing this media hub idea because thats where they have invested their money. And knowing that already is enough for some people. 

Fryboy101
Fryboy101

@mwamba1 It hasn't been confirmed that you have to pay to activate used games. I've been hearing more about the opposite.  They said if you want to play single player games, being on the internet won't be necessary.  You can turn the camera off, they confirmed that like the next day. You know, for someone complaining, you really didn't do much research did you?

Erroneous_Snake
Erroneous_Snake

@B_STATS which is why its even more of an insult that COD was the only game related thing they talked about at the reveal...

Zoza24
Zoza24

And you somehow approve this checkup they will put on you?.

ollie_sr
ollie_sr

@Master_Adeum You can turn it off. Just go to the settings and it won't have to be on ever.

notserbamma
notserbamma

@sonyfreak456 um...make a machine appealing to moms who can't decide what to buy their kids, and they become to people who buy consoles. See: Nintendo Wii. It's all about marketing. Gamers these days are rarely on the fence about which console they love, it's the casual market that's on the fence and need to be persuaded.

jtthegame316
jtthegame316

@Erroneous_Snake @jtthegame316 They have been pushing it since 360 but none of the media stuff stops me enjoying a game on 360 so why would it on xbox one. for me it is about what games they show which is what it should be for everyone else. should not be about a console having sony or playstation on it or even about having xbox on it. the media stuff will not effect games. what console you choose should be because you want to play games on that console. extras it is able to do should not be a put off.

mwamba1
mwamba1

@Fryboy101 @mwamba1 By the way from what I know the only people that will receive "special rights" not to have the console phone home every 24 hours are those in special forces/soldiers etc. 3/4 of the uses of X1 aren't applicable where I'm from and besides I find them totally useless. they just rename this device to USAbox1

mwamba1
mwamba1

@Fryboy101 @mwamba1 The thing is MS statements have been changing on a daily basis but to be fair to you, I see where you're coming from, however you have to admit its been confusing and MS havent really cleared things up. from what I've read, the device needs to be connected at least once every 24 hours, publishers will recieve a cut from used game sales (this has to come from appointed "distributers" meaning it will be monitored somehow by MS) meaning I cannot take a game I paid for to my mates if he's offline. In essence based on the information thats out there at the time I wrote that comment, I stick to what I said. Can you give me links where it says X1 can remain offline indefinately?

ollie_sr
ollie_sr

@B_STATS @ollie_sr @Master_Adeum "You definitely will have the software capability to turn off all the capabilities of Kinect. We want to put the gamer in control. And privacy. The box data information that collects is your data; it stays with you. You are in control of what you want to be collected. Game developers will obviously enable certain features and you'll be alerted when certain things are happening. Putting the gamer in control is really important." --  Phil Spencer

http://www.gamespot.com/features/xbox-one-microsoft-talks-used-games-always-on-6408725/?tag=Topslot;Slot5