Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain is "hundreds" of times bigger than Ground Zeroes

Series creator Hideo Kojima says Ground Zeroes is "relatively small" compared to the full game.

Metal Gear Solid creator Hideo Kojima has quantified just how much larger the full Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain is compared to its tutorial-esque prologue Ground Zeroes. A tweet from Kojima's Japanese account, translated by Siliconera, explains the difference.

"GZ is both a prologue to the MGSV story and, at the same time, a tutorial for a new MGS, which transitions to sneaking simulator," he said. "With that said, GZ has a relatively small field as compared to the main game (which is hundreds of times larger) without time zones changing in real-time. However, each mission offers different time zones with different playstyles.”

Ground Zeroes launches March 18 for Xbox 360, Xbox One, PlayStation 3, and PlayStation 4. The Xbox and PlayStation versions of the game will each receive their own exclusive content. Kojima recently explained which version of the game you should buy.

Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain will follow sometime later, though Konami has not yet announced a release date for the open-world game. Kojima recently said that the game has "enormous volume" and will not be finished for some time.

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Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and would like to see the Whalers return to Hartford.

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Dredcrumb9
Dredcrumb9

I hope the finished version has a Dinosaur island like the secret monster island from MGS Peace Walker, along with nice blood and gore effects during game play. I hated how peace Walker felt T rated and tame, making the combat feel weak.

Cpt_Cosmonaut
Cpt_Cosmonaut

Has anyone been able to line up all the MGS in order in actual events that have happend including these two new ones? Share a link if you know.

GameYakuza
GameYakuza

I wish, instead of overpriced prologues, we got these as free games. this strategy has worked wonders on mobiles, and a study showed a demo could actually hurt sales. If it was free, they'd increase their audience, and players wouldn't play the same content twice.

PlatinumPaladin
PlatinumPaladin

So long as the world's big enough to make proper use of the vehicles available. Looking at the gameplay demo they've released it didn't seem like there was much point having vehicles in-mission.

I'm still looking forward to Ground Zeroes if only to learn what Kojima's been talking about all this time of a free-roaming MGS.

M1KES
M1KES

This is kinda like that glass half empty or half full deal.... kojima is trying to sell us the phantom pain by saying its 100 times larger... but we're just frowning cause the demo called ground zeroes in which we pay 30 dollars for will be 100 times smaller.

wristbreaker
wristbreaker

Oh I believe you Kojima-san... just because you're previous mind-blowing announcement was truly mind blowing...

anshanlord
anshanlord

Is it me or he is just putting off telling us how long this "Prologue" is going to be?

I get the feeling that it will be 5-8 hour thing not worth the money spent on it.

JJB03
JJB03

Looking forward to it, if its a cash grab it will show in the game. I'm worried about it being more of a tutorial than an actual game though. I've never seen MGS as series that would hold your hand for too long in its games unless you wanted it too, I hope that just because this is seen more of a game that will ease everyone into a different kind of MGS experience that it won't be a complete on the rails experience. If the game experience is more like 1 2 and 3 I'll be happy, looking back on it the most linear of games was actually 4 because it had far more of a level like structure and didn't allow for much exploration like the last 3 games before it so I hope GZ  allows for exploration to a reasonable degree like 3. I'm a bit gutted that GZ won't have time zone changes I'm guessing this will include the weather changes too. :/      

pszone
pszone

Well wait for 2 or 3 years until game is really full game .

Thanatos2k
Thanatos2k

The more they talk about this game the worse it sounds...

thrombosis45
thrombosis45

What is the point of GZ then? Just to score extra cash off the impatient? If it's just a tutorial, then it can wait for the real game. The more I read about this new metal gear game the more I don't like about it. And stop making Snake smoke cigarettes, it's ridiculous. Only idiots smoke cigarettes anymore, and Snake is supposed to be cool.

elbauto
elbauto

Who talks shit about his own game before it even comes out? That's just RIDICULOUS!

cancelthis
cancelthis

GZ = game zero - cuz its 0 hours long

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

100x bigger than a linear game isn't much to boast is it? Not like Witcher 3 boasting 30x bigger than an already large open world. Now that is impressive!

Not when most of it is desert like we've seen so far in these trailers. Can be 100x bigger but if you are tear arsing across it on a horse it will be gone in no time at all.

Sushiglutton
Sushiglutton

The idea to sell DLC before the game is out is pretty clever. After having finished a game I'm typically kind of tired of it and want to move onto something new. Before the release I just want to have something to help with the wait. Pretty disgusting idea, but it might work.


I'm sure EA is taking notes :).

xxmavr1kxx
xxmavr1kxx

I want to know how many gameplay hours this is. 

EdAl2112
EdAl2112

As much as I love MGS I'm not paying the overly priced tanker chapter or virtuous mission until the price drops or is bundled in the subersystance edition of the game in a bargain bin.

Garm31
Garm31

I am banking my purchase of a next gen (LOL!) console on this game. It's the only reason to own one. Don't let me down Mr Kojima.

Dredcrumb9
Dredcrumb9

@Cpt_Cosmonaut yes it's easy if you play the games and watch the cut scenes. In order the events of series goes: #1-Metal gear Solid 3, #2-Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops, #3-Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker, #4-MGS5 ground zeros and than MGS5 Phantom Pain, #5-Metal Gear, #6-Metal Gear 2, #7-Metal gear Solid, #8-Metal Gear Solid 2, #9-Metal gear Solid 4.

BigBossWato
BigBossWato

@anshanlord  That the same length that most MGS game are In the first place but from what I have heard the Prologue should take around 15-20 hour to beat but I'm not 100% sure if that is true or not.  

JJB03
JJB03

@thrombosis45 Naked snake smokes cigars not cigarettes, and every main charecter apart from raiden smoked so this is not a new thing   

Garm31
Garm31

@foxrock66 Bioshock Infinite: Burial at Sea was less then 2 hours. It is still 14.99 Euro. So do the math.

Garm31
Garm31

@Dannystaples14It's also on current gen systems. I wouldn't be surprised if it has loading between areas. The engine has to cater for their shoddy memory restraints. Making this a last gen game is a BAD idea.

Garm31
Garm31

@Sushiglutton EA's cancerous infestation of the industry has no bounds. It's watching.

Garm31
Garm31

@EdAl2112If it's short. I'm watching a Youtube playthrough instead. Not dropping 400 Euro for a console, for only a few hours of gameplay.

ArabrockermanX
ArabrockermanX

@EdAl2112 

I have to agree this MGS game feels like a cash grab... I don't mind them making a massive profit just make a product with the proper amount of content for the price(GTAV).

cancelthis
cancelthis

@Garm31 buy konami's shares ( i.e if its listed ) cuz when these games r out their share prices will go no where but up

KimCheeWarriorX
KimCheeWarriorX

@Garm31 well youve got a looooooooooong wait. he said himself the game isnt coming out for another few years.

El_Giucu
El_Giucu

@JJB03 he just Said it got old..like an 80's action movie hero that doesn't quit...sort of like Sylvester Stallone...now that I think about it Snake is quite similar to Rambo..look wise

k41m
k41m

@Garm31 @foxrock66 I thought Burial at sea wasn't completely out yet I thought it was only Episode 1?

Navardo95
Navardo95

@Garm31 Also you do not deserve to buy this game as the Metal Gear franchise has always a PlayStation exclusive at heart even though it was released on multiple platforms but barely any came out on PC soooo....yeah you're not a true fan so all you can do is to hope the game fails to make yourself feel better.

Navardo95
Navardo95

@Garm31 *sigh* I guess someone didn't play GTA V and see its meticulously detailed world running with barely any framerate drops and I believe you don't know the genius that is Kojima and what people can come up with when the push the hardware to absolute limits.

Garm31
Garm31

@KimCheeWarriorX I was talking about Ground Zeroes. 90% of games are coming to PC anyway. So I'm good. I can hold out.

Rooten
Rooten

@k41m @Garm31 @foxrock66 yeah it's only episode 1, more will come but at the same price as episode 1 i guess!!