Mario Maker Online Sharing Being Considered; 3DS Version Could Happen

Online sharing functionality in Mario Maker presents problems, the developer explains, and a 3DS version could come in the future.

When Mario Maker was announced at this year's E3 conference, it showed off the ability to build your own Mario levels. But one of the big questions was about how online sharing functionality would be implemented in the game. Recently, Mario Maker producer Takashi Tezuka confirmed that online sharing is being considered, but that there are problems that still need to be worked out.

In an interview with US Gamer, Tezuka discussed how ranking user-created content in an online space is difficult and sometimes prohibitive to a good sharing experience. Although very popular levels will be seen, he argued, most content becomes buried and undiscoverable. "I would like to consider doing something like [online sharing] with Mario Maker," he said. "There is a challenge there, though. If you create something and upload it somewhere, of course you want as many people as possible to see it. Naturally, the most popular courses will be seen and played by others, but those that don't have that top spot may not attract the same number of eyeballs for people looking at them."

Nintendo's last attempt to give players the tools to make Mario-related content was the SNES's Mario Paint, so many people wondered if Mario Maker would feature a return of Mario Paint's popular music editor. Tezuka affirmed that the team is working on a similar concept in Mario Maker, although the extent of it is unknown right now. "I want to make the music part [in Mario Maker] even more intuitive and easier this time around [than the music editor in Mario Paint] as well. I mean, we're working on it, and I don't know exactly what we can do, but that's our goal."

Tezuka also talked about potentially bringing the game to 3DS in the future. He explained although the focus is on the Wii U right now, he'd think about working on a handheld version depending on the game's success. "I don't know if a 3DS version would work the same exact way, but maybe if Mario Maker does well on Wii U and people really love it, I might consider doing something for 3DS."

Mario Maker will launch during the first half of 2015 for the Wii U. You can read our hands-on impressions of it here. Are you interested by the music editor? Let us know in the comments!

Alex Newhouse is an editorial intern at GameSpot, and you can follow him on Twitter @alexbnewhouse
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megakick
megakick

game better have online sharing some games are more creative than others.

scottman256
scottman256

I think this is fine (people only seeing the popular levels). It is HOW IT SHOULD work. The cream of the crop raise to the top. It will cause people to want to make creative levels, so they become popular and downloaded by others. They could also have users give the course names Like "Winter Dreamland" and also have filters where users can search by the type of the course, etc, which would make courses more "findable". It all depends on how Nintendo implements it.


This sounds like bull**** because there is some other reason they don't want to add the feature, and they don't want to say. 


If this VERY important feature is not in there, it is a wasted opportunity. The online community would be huge for this game. It needs to be in there. 

boringdork
boringdork

Online Sharing and Levels should be standard, much like Little Big Planet - although I'm sure there won't be as much depth. However if we had a full pallet of items (thinking Mario 3 caliber) - there could be some exciting levels.

Would like to see how warp pipes or even pipes that access underground areas play out, as well as level size and if it's based off the rule set of SMB1 and moving Left to Right.

ArabrockermanX
ArabrockermanX

Just read the US gamer article, seems Gamespot done some selective journalism. Maybe next time when you take a quote, you should take the full quote rather than leaving everyone a very misleading statement?

tendoboy1984
tendoboy1984

Of course everyone jumps to conclusions without reading the full interview. Nintendo has made level creation games with online sharing in the past, the Mario vs DK series and Pushmo World are two examples. People think Nintendo has never made games like this before.

tendoboy1984
tendoboy1984

The Mario vs DK games and Pushmo World have online level sharing, so Nintendo has done this before.

charizard1605
charizard1605 moderator moderator

Wow, that is a very poorly worded article.

nl_skipper
nl_skipper

So the guy who makes unpopular and/or crappy content wont get as many views or downloads, and what...?  Their feeling are hurt...?


Just implement the dang system and let people up-vote the things they enjoy as it has always worked.... no need to pander to the people who can't construct anything worthwhile...  I understand often times quality content doesn't become popular, but that makes more sense than trying to give everyone equal exposure, whether their creations are any good or not...

Mraou
Mraou

Strategically worded article title for negative Nintendo click bait.

golden1elite
golden1elite

SOLD! if this feature is included.  If not... not sold.

natethegreat235
natethegreat235

Game is pointless without online sharing. They would not be so stupid to as to not include that feature. Seriously pointless without it.

Essian
Essian

there is basically no point to this game without online sharing.  Implement it or not buying

sHaDyCuBe321
sHaDyCuBe321

"Of course, it's nice to have rankings and the like, but we're trying to think of ways to ensure that everybody's creations get seen by someone. That's what I'm working on now" 


Gamespot doesn't present all the facts. There is online sharing. Read the actual article.

sHaDyCuBe321
sHaDyCuBe321

"Of course, it's nice to have rankings and the like, but we're trying to think of ways to ensure that everybody's creations get seen by someone. That's what I'm working on now" 


Gamespot doesn't present all the facts. There is online sharing. Read the actual article.

blainose
blainose

No online.. not buying it that is all

PixelAddict
PixelAddict

Almost exactly 10 years after Nintendo bosses claimed the "online is not the future of console gaming" (when the Wii was still called the Revolution), and they STILL deny the potential of online capabilities.

I've been playing on Nintendo machines since the 80's, but I'm losing faith in them. They not only do not get it, but they refuse to learn to get it .

spiggy500
spiggy500

It has to have online or I'm not buying it. I'm not going to only play the levels that I make. That is just boring.

ksbwings
ksbwings

I really hate to admit it.  WiiU developed super Mario with great and crazy level.


This game sometime drives person crazy,,,,


Mario Maker.........Do you really want us to make even more crazier level than it has?


It is like a loop (endless game). Plz, End this nonsense and think of something new. (no offense)

DinoBuster
DinoBuster

Yeah, I don't understand how online sharing wasn't implemented from the get go for something like this. Especially when something like Little Big Planet managed it quite a few years ago. These "we thought about it, but..." responses from Nintendo are  just getting embarrassing. We are all aware that you guys created Mario and Zelda, but it's time to get with the freaking program already. For something as simple as Mario Maker, the time and energy it took for them to compile, analyze, and announce why level sharing will "present problems" they could have implemented it.

crocodileman94
crocodileman94

You know, if you posted the part of the article where he did confirm online sharing "Of course, it's nice to have rankings and the like, but we're trying to think of ways to ensure that everybody's creations get seen by someone. That's what I'm working on now." then maybe this article wouldn't cause such confusion.

ArchoNils2
ArchoNils2

Really? Being considered? It was expected by pretty much everybody who heard the idea. Also about systems: This should be on Android and iOS, gathering new young fans to actually bring them to your systems. If you want it on your systems, it really should be on 3DS (or both). WiiU only is a pretty dumb decission, really

JaiGuru
JaiGuru

"Being considered' "Presents problems"

Cry cry cry for me Nintendo. They are YOUR problems. Can't help but notice Sony got level sharing done years ago in Little Big Planet. But that's Nintendo for you: 2001 attitude in 2014. It's ludicrous to even publish this title without online sharing of levels. THAT is the WHOLE thing.


jurk182
jurk182

It is completely foreign to me why online sharing isn't the absolute core feature of the entire game. It is totally worthless without it. I am deeply amazed at how totally out of touch Nintendo is.

gutsallover
gutsallover

No online sharing would kill this wonderful game. I'm a huge supporter of Nintendo, but this is one of the few cases where I'll agree that they need to get with the times. In any kind of level building game, being able to share your levels is an absolute necessity. It's 2014, not 2004. This being involved shouldn't even be a question.

OldDirtyCR
OldDirtyCR

My story : I have a Wii U and have bought every 1st party Nintendo game out so far for it (along with Rayman And Monster Hunter). 

My Comment : Is this a joke? I thought the whole point of this title was creating your own mario level and showing your friends/the internet. Now they are saying that they might add the feature? What the hell is the point of this if you can't even upload your hardwork anywhere. Does Nintendo seriously think it's going to be fun to spend 5 hours designing a level and then bursting through it quickly because you know exactly how it's set up? The fun of creating stuff is to have other's enjoy it. 

If this doesn't have online sharing I will not buy this. With no online sharing this is essentially them giving us a mario game with no levels programmed in. If some of the most creative minds in the world can't figure out how other companies do trending/top/fresh categories then I have lost faith.


Make the top levels based on download in the last week. As stuff gets played it'll slowly fall back down the list and fresh things will exponentially rise to the top.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

It's called having different categories or "tabs." One for "Most popular/top rated levels" another for "Recent uploads" another for "Friend generated levels" along with having a scaling system in which users rate the difficulty of their levels. 


Come on, like others have stated, this would be pointless if it's not online. I sometimes like creating my own levels, but I'm also very interested in trying out levels from other users as well as being able to send mine to my friends. 


Intelligent Systems did it with PushMo (albeit a bit tedious) so there's really NO reason why you can't do it with this game. 

darkteddi
darkteddi

I think it would be easier to divide all stage in groups like Most played, top rated and latest added. Also you can check on all levels made by a user by using Nintendo ID or Mii-Verse profile. but that's just a small thought in how to make as much level out to the public made by the public. Also hell yes, 3DS will be great console for this title.

hystavito
hystavito

I think Nintendo is really just afraid of basically 2 things.


1) Child protection, someone might make something obscene, write a swear word out of blocks or something.


2) They might potentially lose sales of other software or services, future or present, to user generated content.


I think it's really mostly 2.  They've been milking stuff like Mario for ages, and I think they are terrified of handing over even a tiny bit of control.


I can imagine the meeting right now...

Hey you heard of this internet thing where something becomes popular, I think they call it "viral"?  What if someone makes some really good levels with Mario Maker and then they go "viral" and all the players don't feel the need to buy more Mario games/levels?


:)  Ok I'm exaggerating, but seriously, they are so tight about their franchises and characters.

johnnycontardo
johnnycontardo

Forget about the fact that Nintendo is stuck in the 90's with the lack of online sharing of created Mario games......


What's even more shocking is the fact that it's 2014, and they are STILL trying to push Mario down people's throats.


It's been 40+ years of Mario..... let it go Nintendo....


Just let it go.


Get with the times, or you WILL go down the same road that Sega took.

Sohereiam
Sohereiam

If it is to create your own mario games, then its obvious that you want share it online, for what other reason people would buy this game, there's no fun in finishing a game you create yourself.

DMZapp
DMZapp

"Naturally, the most popular courses will be seen and played by others, but those that don't have that top spot may not attract the same number of eyeballs for people looking at them."

...

...and Nintendo wonders why they aren't taken as seriously.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@ArabrockermanX

Seriously, what kind of shady business is GameSpot running here? How many times have they pulled crap like this already?

nintendoboy16
nintendoboy16

@sHaDyCuBe321 No wonder people call out Gamespot for click bait. This is the kind of crap you see Glenn Beck pull off.

nintendoboy16
nintendoboy16

@PixelAddict The thing is, Gamespot missed all the information from the USGamer info. Seriously... look it up.

nintendoboy16
nintendoboy16

@abHS4L88 I expected better out of you. Did you not read the full USGamer article? GS is doing clickbait articles again, trying to get hits with Nintendo hate comments, which you hate.

jharring
jharring

@hystavito  I'm inclined to agree with you that it's #2.  Having recently read through the book "Console Wars" about the Sega vs. Nintendo era, Nintendo strikes me as a company that needs absolute control at all times.  Or at least back then they did, but it doesn't seem like a lot has changed.

metallinatus
metallinatus

@johnnycontardo 

And DIsney is STILL trying to push Mickey down people's throats....

And DC is STILL trying to push Batman down people's throats....

And Marvel is STILL trying to push Spiderman down people's throats....

Even after 50+ years these companies "stuck" in last century are still trying to push them....

IIIIIIII wonder whyyyyyy!!!!

pikachudude860
pikachudude860

@johnnycontardo If Mario games ever die, it will be a sad day for gaming indeed. 

So it's "OK" for other devs to shove yearly CODs, Assassins Creeds, Battlefields and others down our throats, but when Nintendo releases a Mario game every now and then, they need to get with the times?


Maybe it's US GAMERS that need to get with the times. Stop arguing over 792P and 900P and just enjoy the games and consoles for what they are.

hystavito
hystavito

@DMZapp It's like no one has ever done these things in other games :)

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@nintendoboy16

Sorry about that, I didn't realize they were leaving out information until after I made this post :P 

johnnycontardo
johnnycontardo

@pikachudude860 @johnnycontardo


No, it's NOT ok for other devs to shove COD and Battlefields down our throats.


I HATE COD, haven't played it since the Original Modern Warfare.


Anything that is re-hashed year after year after year after year, and the morons buy it willingly DESERVES to be CANCELLED.


Just look at Rock Band/Guitar Hero.


Hopefully COD follows suit soon.


The same thing with MARIO.


Get a new IP for f*cks sakes!

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@johnnycontardo

"Get a new IP for f**ks sakes!" YEAH NINTENDO! Get a new IP so people like johnnycontardo can just ignore it then proceed to continue to hate on Nintendo for only doing Mario! 


Enough about COD and what not, but while we're at it, we should tell Microsoft to end Halo and Forza, tell Sony to end Gran Turismo and Uncharted, tell Disney to end Mickey Mouse (Mickey Mouse of nearly a century? WTH????), tell McDonald's to replace Ronald McDonald because you know, screw mascots and iconic franchises, we just want more new stuff to ignore! 

pikachudude860
pikachudude860

@abHS4L88 @johnnycontardo

You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time.”  ~Abraham Lincoln.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@pikachudude860

Exactly, just pick and choose what you like and go with it. If you don't like what one company's been doing, then find another that gives you what you want.