HDMI capture on PS4 won't be available at launch

Sony confirms gameplay capture through HDMI will not be supported at launch; will come later through a patch.

Just a day after announcing that the PlayStation 4 would support gameplay capture through HDMI, Sony has confirmed that the feature will not be available at launch.

President of Worldwide Studios Shuhei Yoshida confirmed the news on Twitter (via Videogamer). Gameplay capture through HDMI will come later through a post-launch patch.

The PlayStation 3 used HDCP copy protection over an HDMI connection, forcing users looking to record in-game content to use analogue cables such as component.

The PlayStation 4's OS software will also allow users to record and stream clips of their games without the need for additional hardware.

The next-generation console will launch on November 15 in North America for $399, and on November 29 in Europe for €399/£349.

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intech36
intech36

So when will I be able to record my gameplay via HDMI? any news on when the update will come out?

sscaling
sscaling

... unless you shell out $30 for an active HDMI splitter which removes HDCP protection, allowing for HDMI gameplay capture, just like with PS3. Anyone who really cares about game capture probably already has one, so this is a non-issue for most.

I hate the entire concept of HDCP, but that's a different issue for a different day.

intech36
intech36

@sscaling does it work for ANY HDMI splitters or specific kinds of splitters?

ralrs
ralrs

Finaly the xboners have something to talk about!

This feature is only important for edit for youtube.

The PS4 can always record the gameplay to the disk if you want to review it.

Pyrosa
Pyrosa

OMG DEAL-BREAKER!  That's it -- canceling my preorder.



arqe
arqe

Also i saw in many comments that Consoles will record gameplay why need External etc.

Both consoles have "Limited Time" on for recording also Publishers / Developers said they are blocking this feature to capture , in game "SCENES" and Spoilers so you will not get what you want from a game. This "Built-in" Record is good for Racing games and Fighting games. Other than that its kinda useless.

So External Card will be people choice again.

arqe
arqe

Next week news from Sony ;

- Ps4 Wont Be Avaliable At Launch.

I mean , what is avaliable ? Everything they talked about "Next-Gen" is not avaliable. What is really working on Sony side i wonder.

In the end it'll be like " Yeah it can play games really" ...

steelmouth
steelmouth

Its OK Sony we trust you, we know you will deliver unlike that other company

arqe
arqe

@Nikolajj @steelmouth They are just talking trash.

Microsoft announced things , people didnt liked the ideas so they changed their "things" to what people wanted. So this is "NOT HOLDING" their promises for Sony retarded fanboys.

But saying "NOT AVALIABLE" to everything you announced is nothing but a GOODIE. Because Sony's SHIT is good for these people. No matter how bad it smells.

simon1812
simon1812

meh I can live without this feature.

B_Spooky13
B_Spooky13

I think people are reading into this way too much. It's not that big of a deal. Just like the external hard drive won't work at launch. Who cares. As long as it doesn't mess with the gameplay. There's other ways to record gameplay but people wanted a easier way to do it. So Sony said "Okay, but our product is already ready to ship so it'll have to come in a patch." Cool, who cares? I just want to play games. Whatever happened to gamers wanting to play games? People are just spoiled now a days. Just play the damn games and be happy that you're fortunate enough to actually play the game. Jeezus

arqe
arqe

@B_Spooky13 It it is not ready why Sony announces these things like they are all "Built-in" already ? Thats the problem.

Announcing things that people liked. After 1-2 months say "Not Avaliable" for all the things you announced. You see the problem now ?

If the things you announced not working why still talking about these like good news ?

Release the console when its ready ... If not just dont say anything you havent created / tested yet.

Just forget all these things , wtf was that Mark Cerny's announcement.

You wont get full potential from Ps4 until 3-4 years. I mean wtf is this ...

Sony is just playing with you guys.Nothing is ready but we still want your money.

vader501st
vader501st

Suddenly it's ok for Sony not to live up to its promises at launch, and Microsoft should burn for adding more and more features to the Xbox One regardless, PS4 passthrough being one of them.


Fucking hypocrites.

hystavito
hystavito

@vader501st They did not add PS4 passthru as a feature, they simply noted it being possible because, well the PS4 uses HDMI and of course the Xbox One needed to handle HDCP regardless for cable/sat boxes.  Unless they (MS or Sony) specifically used some method to block it, it was going to work anyway.

steelmouth
steelmouth

@vader501st Not all Consoles are created equal, some are more special and get to get away with ish

Ayebang
Ayebang

Are Sony ready for its OS inside ?

I doubt it really.

Until today, Sony does not release actual game machine to press or anyone. So, what is the real product ?

Sony may rush this product behind it rally ?

cirugo
cirugo

don't give a shit.  no plans to be "sharing" any of my gameplay moments with anyone


evol8i
evol8i

I guess you get what you pay for.


adward22
adward22

geez .. .and you consider it as probelm?? y dont have to effort your self sony ... i already got a plenty of HDMI caple 

i wanna play killzone shadow fall with ps4:)


Ravenlore_basic
Ravenlore_basic

With So many people complaining I would like to compare Microsoft and Sony on the issue of listening to consumers.

Microsoft states that, 

-console must cheek in every 24 hours in order to function... Microsoft states this feature is necessary and must be implemented.  There is a huge backlash..

- Used games will not work, then only with certain condition and that this is a must.

- kinect must be on at all times for the console to work, and was needed.

- too many to go over... http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/13/xbox-one-then-and-now

-http://www.videogamer.com/features/article/xbox_one_kinect_u-turn_is_a_mistake_too_far_for_microsoft.html

The ISSUE of not being able to use video capture, other than the huge share button on the controller, came up only recently. Production of the PS4 had already commenced.  Sony did not comment on the issue, thus NO promises were made, and after some time Sony came up with a fix and said that it would be implemented after PS4 was launched. http://www.psu.com/a020947/

So to recap-  Microsoft finally gets the message only after a HUGE uproar, while Sony listens to a few people who want an obscure feature. 

evol8i
evol8i

@Ravenlore_basic While I understand the need to defend your presiouse P$4, why not just say "well at least they listen the few and not the many."? I know you think that microsoft was not thinking when they did their key not earlier this year, but does this not strike you as odd when you think "man, they are blowing it this time round" and they listened before going into production and fixed alot of the community complaints. If $ony wants you to wait, well then you are going to do to stream, well thats what you will do because as a fan boy and supporter of ONE system, and not the gaming industry its self, well then you have already lost your precious console war by closing off your mind to being a multi platform user. But the main point of the artical back at hand, you just have to wait till you can stream your death streaks live.

Ravenlore_basic
Ravenlore_basic

@evol8i @Ravenlore_basic ?... LOL thanks for the laugh.

My comment was pointed at the people bashing Sony for  ... (wait for it) "lying," or "delaying "a not important function that they did not implement, till some one asked about it. Thus, I compared Sony's attitude, and response to Microsoft's attitude and response. (thus I am not defending PS4 [LOL $ when PS4 cost less] but just laughing at the nonsense that is being spewed here. 

Sony did not say at launch as it may take a a short amount of time.  If it takes longer or they Lie then I will pounce and call them out on it. 

Microsoft also went into production and thus, said at launch that things will be fixed... yet the people who believe Microsoft do not believe Sony. (I am sure though have not seen people on the other side take the opposite stance) 

At this point I do not think I will buy an Xbox One as its just trying to be everything that I have and do not need. an inexpensive computer, an Netflix player, .... Add to that their bending over of their customers I just do not see myself supporting such moves. My 360 will be the lonely for a while unless Microsoft sells or remakes themselves so that I can again buy one of their consoles. 

arqe
arqe

@Ravenlore_basic @evol8i The thing is about "not delivering" is not an issue. The problem is they cant even give a date / month , a timeline. Its not avaliable. Yeah but for how long. If nothing "NEW" about console is working why should people pay for it ? Play your Ps3 or Xbox 360 or get some proper working Xbox One. And buy Ps4 when everything is avaliable.

Its nothing but a joke.

Whatever they announced , after 1-2 months they said "Not avaliable" , "Not avaliable". Seems like nothing working proper on Sony's side. Thats the problem but they still saying "We thing we gonna recap the money we invested on Ps4" Of course you can do that with "Unfinished" product. After you all buy the console they will start to fix things that they couldnt afford at launch.

They need your money to make a Console. Get it now ? Nothing works except blu-ray. Really good achievement for Sony.

They should'a just started a "KICKSTARTER CAMPAING" for Ps4 to be avaliable with all the things they announced.

EddieDominguez
EddieDominguez

All I want to know is why hasn't Sony talked about dedicated servers. Are they going to have them or not? Their strategy of not talking about things has gone well pre-launch but once people start noticing differences between the online play with/without servers, they are going to have to start speaking up. 

Ravenlore_basic
Ravenlore_basic

@EddieDominguez I think the time of Dedicated servers is over... Its too much to set up and then take down...  The Cloud is far more has its uses and with Gaikai Sony already has the infrastructure.  So its Win Win.  

Sony is working on the cloud now with Gaikai.  We will find out what they are working on. I think its

1. Cloud computing - Thus Sony will have the ability to add s and take away capacity when need be, fast and easy. 

2. ability to Play PS2, PS3 games on the go. To be able to have games on Phones, Vita, up to or beyond PS3 ability. Stream PS3, PS4 games from the cloud to Vita, and Sony phones. 

3. Additional power for PS4 games. It would be for online games like MMOLGs and MP games like Titan, Destiny, and others.  

In this way Sony will later announce such policies. We will have to wait and see. It a pain but its better to work on something and then give details, than promise something and not be able to deliver. 

Ravenlore_basic
Ravenlore_basic

@EddieDominguez @Ravenlore_basic yes, I know that. But the Cloud works far faster in how many servers are used for each game. 

No guessing how many servers to dedicate to any one game.

evol8i
evol8i

@EddieDominguez Good eye, lets hope they start talking about the gamers side of importance other than, hey here are a bunch of good looking games....oh you want to know if they will play well, guess you better buy them and find out!

Ravenlore_basic
Ravenlore_basic

@evol8i @Ravenlore_basic @EddieDominguez

1- http://www.itworld.com/cloud-computing/312635/cloud-or-not-cloud-horizontal-scaling-web-applications

2- http://www.subbu.org/blog/2013/09/private-cloud-operating-principles

3- http://www.forbes.com/sites/louiscolumbus/2013/09/04/predicting-enterprise-cloud-computing-growth/

There is a huge wealth of information on the subject, in may different ways to understand it.  But basically, its a difference in speed and infrastructure. Some may semantics but I think its more than that its implementation and function.  

arqe
arqe

@Ravenlore_basic None of them are "AVALIABLE". Thats what everyone saying. Sony just gave people promises. But day by day they are just saying "Not Avaliable" for everything they announced. That cloud you talking about "Gaikai" is nothing like "Microsoft Azure". Sony cant even create a proper working OS , you expect them to make a cloud computing system ? No they are nothing even close to tech that Microsoft uses. PSN will be p2p again with all games. Except "DEVELOPERS / PUBLISHERS" own dedicated servers.

And there is no "Cloud Computing" at Sony , Gaikai is a "STREAM" cloud. Not cloud computing.

Nikolajj
Nikolajj

@Ravenlore_basic @evol8i @EddieDominguez1 out of 3 is... well.

Sony will 'at some point' let you stream PS games. But Cloud computing and additional power is the same thing, AND something that the X1 will offer, not the PS4... sry bro.

ps. MS is looking into stream Xbox and xbox360 as well.

EddieDominguez
EddieDominguez

@Ravenlore_basic @EddieDominguez What do you mean the time of dedicated servers is over?? All the cloud is, is dedicated servers that do what the devs want them to do. They are just calling it the cloud to make it sound nice. 

JasonPwnsGaming
JasonPwnsGaming

Obviously, this is important news to let's players. Anyone else could care less. Just because you don't use it, doesn't mean it's not important to others. Personally, I am a bit pissed that this is the case, as I am getting one on launch day and would like to have videos up as soon as possible. Obviously I will do what I have to to get it to work, but it'll just take a little more work.

senjutsu
senjutsu

Is that a news? Why whould we even care? The PS4 can record directly on the console, you don't need to record from the HDMI with an external thing... this post doesn't make sense.

Def-Trex
Def-Trex

@senjutsu The share button has a limit though it's like 10 or 15 minutes of gameplay maximum(not sure the exact amount of time but there is a limit).

megatronx2
megatronx2

@senjutsu Directly on a console and publishes it via twitch tv. Now think about it bit more ;)

ReachieX
ReachieX

@senjutsu 

We don't even know how exactly it will record, how it will be published and in what way the user could edit and customize the footage. You might not even have direct access to the video file, plus it will only let you uploads to services that the system will support.

Now, try to understand  how recording through external capture cards might appeal more to people instead of bitching at everyone who complains about this and say, nobody will ever use an external capture card with this.

arqe
arqe

@Def-Trex @senjutsu There is a time limit also publishers announced they will not allow people to record everything. because of spoilers and everything. Thats why people will use External capture cards again.

PosiTVEMinD355
PosiTVEMinD355

I don't see the point in this when the ps4 can already record gameplay

Ayebang
Ayebang

Are Sony so rush in releasing ps 4 ?

Are Sony ready for its new OS inside ps 4 ?

I doubt it really. 

Ravenlore_basic
Ravenlore_basic

@Ayebang We can doubt all we want but what happen will happen weather we doubt it or not. 

Though I do agree Sony was not in a rush to releasing the PS4 

jsmoke03
jsmoke03

better than nothing. good move....youtube is free marketing for them

Tiago_Matos
Tiago_Matos

dont give a shit. just give me killzone, planetside 2, second son and keep throwing the games i like. the rest is bullcrap.