Gearbox President "Scared" By the Idea of Borderlands 3 [UPDATE]

[UPDATE] Randy Pitchford now says, "Easy to be excited with the ~idea~ of BL3. But creative priorities vs expectations needs respect."

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[UPDATE] Gearbox Software president Randy Pitchford has offered his take on the story via Twitter.

The original story is below.

Gearbox Software president Randy Pitchford is uneasy about the very idea of Borderlands 3, he told Game Informer in a new interview. That's because a third entry in the numbered series--which is absolutely not announced or even in development--would need to be "so crazy and so big" that the developer might not be able to launch a game worthy of its ambition.

"There's a point where it's like, 'What should the next Borderlands be? Should there be another Borderlands, and what should it be?'," Pitchford said in August's issue of Game Informer (via Videogamer). "We had that discussion and there was this weird mixed bag. On one level it's like, 'Woah'. If you're going to do something that's called Borderlands 3 and it's going to be done in this next-generation environment, there's a whole bunch of ideas that come around of what has to happen in order for that to live up to what that needs to be."

This fall's Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel--developed principally by 2K Australia--really upped the ante for what a potential third Borderlands game from Gearbox needs to be, he said. Pitchford explained that 2K Australia's involvement with the game, "changed the nature of the pressure of what Borderlands 3 had to be for us."

"If there's going to be a Borderlands 3 and what that would be. We imagine what that might be, and frankly it scared us," he added. "It's like, 'That's so crazy and so big that I'm not sure we can succeed'."

Despite Pitchford's Hideo Kojima-like pessimism, it's still possible that a new Borderlands game from Gearbox could be released for the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 generation of consoles. Game Informer writes that while Gearbox has not ruled out such a game, the studio's current main focus is on multiplayer arena shooter Battleborn for Xbox One, PlayStation 4, and PC.

Also in this month's issue of Game Informer, it was revealed that characters from the Borderlands series might end up appearing in Battleborn.

"I won't say that we haven't talked about [including vault hunters]," creative director Randy Varnell said. "But it's really important that Battleborn is its own universe first and that it has its own tone and its own style and that it can grow its legs. But it is a universe. It's a vast universe with who knows what. It's set way, way in the future and so I can't say that [vault hunter characters] would never happen..."

Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and you can follow him on Twitter @EddieMakuch
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Discussion

190 comments
okashiiamerican
okashiiamerican

omg, I am seriously going to boycott everything gearbox if they choose to do something as stupid as not make a Borderlands 3 "because they're scared".  Don't make the gamers suffer because of your stupid anxiety attacks.  It's not the game itself that was great;  IT WAS THE STORY!  Borderlands has a great story and great characters!  Just continue with the fricken story and tell more about the back stories of the characters.  * SPOILER* Or at least the characters you actually let live until the end of the game.

ssjspider-man
ssjspider-man

He's made nothing but good decisions so far so whatever he decides, it'll be fine. commercials, merchandising, DLCs, characters have all been pretty much spot on. And he has the support of Border patrol and other co-op clans so sales will always be good.

ssjspider-man
ssjspider-man

He's made nothing but good decisions so far so whatever he decides, it'll be fine. commercials, merchandising, DLCs, characters have all been pretty much spot on. And he has the support of Border patrol and other co-op clans so sales will always be good.

deathwish026
deathwish026

there better had be a borderlands 3 in the future!... SPOILER ALERT.......... if we dont get to see why all those vaults were made in the first place and a deeper story behing the civ that created them i will be very disapointed.

Realmjumper
Realmjumper

Here's what I would do.

1. Decide what type of game it's going to be. If not fps you can try rts or turn based or many other type of games. (Browser, but do not do MMO that is too risky and not worth it)

2. Divide the game into parts so as not to overwhelm yourself, complete the parts one at at time.

3. Decide the game length and try doing a shorter but beefier game. Say 14-20 hours max but plenty of new game + areas open up once you complete it.

4. Win.


Hillsy_
Hillsy_

Here is a better idea, fix Borderlands 2 graphical glitches on Big Game Hunt & Tiny Tina's Dragon Keep.  Treasure chests locking and not allowing you to open them unless you reload.  Fix also the Fire Dragon boss fight and the Badassasaurus final boss fight, they aren't even challenging.  Stand at the gate of the arena and shoot, or stand near the gate to Dragon Keep and shoot the Fire Dragon, dreadful gameplay - where is the intensity, the excitement?  Some of what you did with Borderlands 2 was excellent, others parts fell short.  Credit to the music, which I thought was good throughout the game and the DLCs.

Aspire85
Aspire85

Sick to death of BL now. Would need significant changes to the fetch quest style if a third one was to peak my interest.

Given that the most original and (arguably) best parts of the BL series conveniently come in the form of DLC, I won't hold my breath..

g1rldraco7
g1rldraco7

I wonder what spooked him so badly?

Warlord_Irochi
Warlord_Irochi

Why scared? Is the only game Gearbox is doing properly as of late.

Assimilat0r
Assimilat0r

Хахаха holy cow, this mean  9999 more DLCs for Borderlands serial.

MondasM
MondasM

there is no need for another borderlands game, but i wouldn't say no to a whole new game developed by the same crew with the same humour and content... :D

futureops
futureops

Aw well, now no one will be overhyped about BL3. 

SingletreeAve
SingletreeAve

I know.  The vault hunters could be colonial marines in BL3.

chrisall76
chrisall76

Guys, it's Borderlands. i doubt they would outsource there own franchise (unlike A: CM). We get it was a bad game, but hating on everything someone does doesn't fix the game :l 

NFJSupreme
NFJSupreme

I mean they have miled BL2 to death, back from the grave then right back to death again.  Shouldn't they be excited to make a game?

UFOLoche
UFOLoche

I like how Eddie just got called out on his stupidity.


I can appreciate that.

TheWatcher000
TheWatcher000

"But creative priorities vs expectations needs respect"

Is that the same creative priorities that led you to outsource Aliens: Colonial Marines and use the money SEGA gave you on Borderlands 2?

How was that respectful to the Aliens who waited YEARS to pay $60 for your fraud?


Stop talking, Randy.  You are a liar, a charlatan, and you've done about as much as you can do with the ONE thing you are capable of.


Go infect another industry.


Better yet, run for Congress.  You're PERFECT for it.

Sir_Meowcat_Esq
Sir_Meowcat_Esq

AKA, Why bother working on a sequel when you can just milk 2 with effortless lackluster DLC, outsource a full price mod (and continue that DLC farm), and bathe in the royalties of a spin-off you put no work into.


I don't blame them.

Wicked869
Wicked869

Let the cartoon franchise die.

DemoKnight10656
DemoKnight10656

then whats the point of borderlands the pre sequel  that shouldn't be a game should just be a dlc all it is is adding 4 new characters gun element and looks and a new place to go which all other borderland dlc has done nothing is barely new and the characters aren't even going to be seen again they are already dead. should have just scrapped it and just worked on ideas and what not for borderlands

mjonk2pc
mjonk2pc

Borderlands 3, can't wait, I would buy blands 2 again if it were remastered

rexpowercolt
rexpowercolt

What the hell is this sudden "hate" and anger with Randy out of the blue? I must have missed something...

nero3068
nero3068

Yup Randy should be scared about potentially making a bad game 'cause Aliens Colonial Marines is a disaster that will always come back to haunt him for the rest of his life.

SpLiTMaN
SpLiTMaN

Gearbox i love you guys but listen here...Screw Borderland right now...you have the Homeworld Franchise to Revive....And Don't Mess It Up...so focus XD...then make BL3...

jer_1
jer_1

Don't make this game you toolbags. NEW IP OR GO THE FUKK HOME!

ne0meg4
ne0meg4

Gearbox is shady as fu(k. I don't like/trust them. They can go bankrupt for all I care, 2K can give Borderlands ip to someone else anyway.

Hurvl
Hurvl

Journalists are great at quote mining, but not min(d)ing their own business, so it's a given that misinterpretations like this can happen.

okashiiamerican
okashiiamerican

@deathwish026 yeah, like what the frick?!  They set it up to allow for another game.  How the frick are they questioning whether or not to have one?  They're leaving us hanging in the middle of a great story!  What the heck?

Too-DementeD
Too-DementeD

@Realmjumper Okay, now for the reality of what to do;

1. Decide to do away with your current genre and turn into a free-to-play MOBA filled with microtransactions.

2. Divide the game into parts and sell them individually for an ambitious price.

3. Make the game endless so that the s̶u̶c̶k̶e̶r̶s̶  players will endlessly play the game and keep spending money.

4. Win.

okashiiamerican
okashiiamerican

@Hillsy_ That's funny cause both Borderlands 1 + 2 I turned the music off.  XD  Don't even remember that there's in game music.

Warlord_Irochi
Warlord_Irochi

@Assimilat0r Considering they are long, varied and give a ton of extra hours, nothing wrong with them... quite the opposite in fact! wish every DLC were that way.

TheWatcher000
TheWatcher000

This article is false.



From Sega's Facebook page:


It's genuinely been great to see the reaction to The Crew Expendable and Last Survivor pre-order bonus content we announced yesterday and how excited you all are to re-experience those classic scenes from the original movie with our Alien. It's been absolutely amazing for us at the Studio.

However, some of you have been asking if the two pieces of content are only available through pre-order or if we'll be releasing them at a later date as well.

So, I can confirm today that we do plan to release both Crew Expendable and Last Survivor at a later date and we'll have more details for you guys on that shortly.

 Also, a little research on GAMESPOT would have helped you here.


http://www.gamespot.com/articles/alien-isolation-preorder-bonus-missions-reunites-c/1100-6420995/



Damnation_6
Damnation_6

@chrisall76 I never really got that stupid outsourcing move with A:CM, worst choice they ever made.

deathstream
deathstream

@chrisall76


They already outsourced Borderlands with the 360/PS3 game coming later this year.

PixelAddict
PixelAddict

@Sir_Meowcat_Esq Borderlands 1 & 2 had the best DLC since Burnout Paradise.

So.... your comment is false.

Why not go comment (or play) a game that you actually enjoy instead of commenting on one you clearly do not?

OldDirtyCR
OldDirtyCR

@jer_1 Did you even read the article? Battleborne is a brand new IP. What the hell are you smoking?

coinsage46m3
coinsage46m3

@TheWatcher000  What exactly does this have to do with this article?

OldDirtyCR
OldDirtyCR

@deathstream @chrisall76 No. They are overseeing the project. AKA they retain creative rights and executive decision but the bulk of work is done by 2k. Watch "

The Making of Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel -- Episode 1" for more information on this.

You can be assured that Gearbox is making sure they aren't mucking up the story or characters. It's going to be extremely hard for 2k Australia to mess this up because they have an established engine, art style, models, animations, etc.


Colonial marines was completely out of house. It was a mess from the start. This won't be a repeat of that, but this is definitely not a 50/50 collab. This is technically outsourcing. 2k Australia is the main developer here. Gearbox is simply overseeing this and helping in the design phases. Think of it like Stan Lee and Marvel movies. Stan Lee is the creative mind behind it all and makes sure stuff stays true to his stories.

chrisall76
chrisall76

@deathstream @chrisall76 ....A collaboration between Gearbox and 2K Australia (2K is there publisher btw) is not outsourcing, it's working with another team. They are working together, Gearbox isn't just giving it to a random unknown company and saying "have fun." Heck even if they did that with 2K Australia they would still do a good job, as this is the studio that made Bioshock Infinite.

Sir_Meowcat_Esq
Sir_Meowcat_Esq

@PixelAddict @Sir_Meowcat_Esq  I liked the base game, I just hate the DLC... they add nothing to the game to me (except segregation), but I especially dislike the business aspect of it. There's a ton of it, which is theoretically a good thing, but they decided to release it in tiny overpriced segments  Also the incomplete "season pass" and "GOTY edition" are the epitome of d*** moves, I've never seen anything even from EA so consumer unfriendly as that.


But regardless of all that, I was just simplifying this article for those without reading comprehension.  Apparently I needed to tone down the opinionated part... for those with no reading comprehension ironically.

futureops
futureops

@TheWatcher000 @rexpowercolt ACM was short and was similar to COD, whats why people hated it but I LOVED IT.It was okay comparing to some other games that came out during the first six months of January,2013.