GameSpot GamePlay Episode 17: Space Noise

Bioware's Mike Gamble ushers our alpha team into Omega to discuss Mass Effect 3, corporate theft, and host Kevin VanOrd's mathematical deficiencies.

GameSpot GamePlay Episode 17: Space Noise

Bioware's Mike Gamble talks Mass Effect 3, working for an evil corporation, and seedy intergalactic dance clubs. Tom Mc Shea talks about his summer at Camp Karateka, Carolyn Petit ponders the meaning of a single screenshot, and Chris Watters drinks from a well of poisoned water.

And if you need a lesson in the new math, host Kevin VanOrd is your man. Also, apologies for some audio level inconsistencies. Tom tripped over a cable. Authentically.

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Discussion

26 comments
g1rldraco7
g1rldraco7

Man this was really good and I am glad to have my laptop working again. Good job Kevin VanOrd :)

tgwolf
tgwolf

It's a 'noise' indeed to these ears that always hoping or a choir of angels when I look for a new game...

Falzonn
Falzonn

Tsk tsk Tom.  Falling into water = death or breaking a person out of a crystal?  Dark Souls.

 

For shame.

Lexicar
Lexicar

Games where you ride animals to kill stuff? Dynasty warriors! Red Dead Redemption.

FreedomPrime
FreedomPrime

OMG I GUESSED EVERY SONG!!!! i LOVED LEGEND OF DRAGOON. such a underated game.

Rodrigo_AA
Rodrigo_AA

The list of the songs: 

 

Suffragette City - David Bowie

E-pro- Beck

Sympathy for the devil - Rolling Stones

Walk of life -Dire Straits

Play That Funky Music White Boy - Wild Cherry

 La Grange - ZZ Top

 

Kevin-V
Kevin-V moderator staff

By the way, we're making changes to our masthead, so it will be easier to find the show soon. In the meanwhile, bookmark this: 

 

http://www.gamespot.com/tags/gameplay/

 

All the episodes are there. 

senseless_dj
senseless_dj

Great show guys. Please make it a weekly show.

picho86
picho86

I'm not trying to criticize but I was sure that Tom would be scared to show hes face after what happened with his article.

joe_lvc
joe_lvc

Great show! keep'em coming on a regular basis

stailcookie
stailcookie

So, this podcast is not listed anywhere on the site other than a headline for a few hours and has the same name as a video category.  Fun to find it once every other month!

NTM23
NTM23

Oh, I've been waiting for this. Is this on at any specific time, or is it put at random, whenever you guys feel like doing it? It doesn't say you guys talk about any Assassin's Creed 3 or Halo 4, which is what I was waiting for, but maybe you do. Either way, I was going to listen to it anyways.

Lexicar
Lexicar

 @Kevin-V thanks for that...it's always a pain finding them. Love listening to episodes while playing warcraft.

TomMcShea
TomMcShea

 @picho86 Wow, that was my opposite reaction. I'm encouraged by how many people are willing to explore the games we play. Treating games as if they're more than forgettable entertainment, that they have messages and an impact like all media, is new ground, and I'm happy to start that conversation, even if it is uncomfortable at times.

Kevin-V
Kevin-V moderator staff

 @stailcookie Discoverability is definitely an issue. I am hoping to get that fixed very soon.

xsonicchaos
xsonicchaos

 @Lord_Python1049 No, but there's nothing new either. I don't know why Kevin invited Gamble. I giggled a lot though when Chris (I think) asked him what's like to work for an evil corporation, but then he apologized and ruined it.

picho86
picho86

 @TomMcShea You have to agree that most of the reaction was pretty bad, with some pretty nasty name calling. If you read and remember (somehow) my comments, I disagreed with you for a number of reasons. While discussion about the impact of games is legitimate, you were asserting that terrorists might be nice family men, that could very much be like the soldier their fighting against. I don't really have to explain to you why that would provoke anger now, do I?

 

I live in Israel, and I am a left wing liberal. I do think that everybody deserves to live in peace and that everyone is equal. But to say that it is offensive towards Muslims (and maybe terrorists), that we don't delve deeper into the motivations of people who invade homes and murder children in their sleep, bomb buses, night clubs and busy streets and fire rockets at civilians (to name a few atrocities), it is offensive to me.  

Chris_Watters
Chris_Watters staff

 @xsonicchaos  @Lord_Python1049 I think that was Kevin lobbing up the "evil corporation" bit. I just jibber-jabbered about space noise. The only pertinent-to-ME3 stuff is talk about the Omega DLC, not spoilery stuff.

picho86
picho86

 @TomMcShea How am I stereotyping? What kind of fun loving, good-natured terrorists have I missed? I just love being called a racist (just subtly).

It's great thinking about motivations when your'e philosophising, studying politics, or are in politics, but not doing it is NOT racism.

 

Mind you I am talking about what is and is not racist, not about my political views or the subjects I do or do not philosophise about.

At first I wanted you to have the last word, but after the likes I just had to.

picho86
picho86

 @robfield  @TomMcShea So why not show IEDs killing and mutilating soldiers? The way they return damaged to civilian life? Why not show Mosques explode with all the body parts of civilians who were intentionally murdered?

 

Of course there is a lot more to soldier's experience than shooting terrorists, but the truth isn't pretty on either side. People want a fun, nice experience, and not see children explode for any reason.

That is the reason why terrorists can't be the bad guys anymore. It's just not politically correct anymore. They are now good people who protect their poor countrymen from oppression. They don't kill and terrorize them anymore. People die because they use them as human shields, but that doesn't matter, US soldiers are the terrorists themselves.

robfield
robfield

 @picho86  @TomMcShea 

I think that what Tom was trying to say is that videogames tend to label all enemies as terrorists and use the caricature of a suicidal murderer to justify killing them all.

 

There is a lot more to Middle East conflicts than terrorists vs America, but games tend to ignore the gray area (civilian deaths, war crimes, negligent drone strikes, etc.). I too believe that there should be more said about the conflict beyond what is presented in games, but I doubt it would be as entertaining to the mass market.

TomMcShea
TomMcShea

 @picho86 Like I said, I expected people to be upset with my editorial, so I was encouraged that so many were willing to talk about the issue at hand in a rational manner. As to your specific concerns, I think it's always preferable to examine the motivations of people -- whether you agree with them or not -- rather than rely on lazy stereotypes.