Fallout, Dishonored parent company trademarks Void Engine

Name of new game engine powered by id Tech trademarked by Bethesda parent company Zenimax.

Bethesda parent company Zenimax has filed a trademark application for "Void Engine Powered by Id Tech," suggesting the company has created an all-new game engine. The news comes as the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One are soon to be released, though it is unclear if the new engine is related to the next-generation systems.

The trademark application, filed November 8 with the United States Patent & Trademark Office (USPTO), covers "software game engine used to design and develop computer games," among other things. A Bethesda representative told GameSpot, "we don't really comment on trademark filings."

id Tech is the name of a series of game engines created by the Bethesda-owned id Software. The latest iteration, id Tech 5, is powering next-generation games like Wolfenstein: The New Order, The Evil Within, and Doom 4.

Unannounced but rumored upcoming Bethesda games include Fallout 4, potentially set in Boston, and a new project called Soulburst, which Bethesda trademarked this year.

CBS Corp. CEO Leslie Moonves is a member of the Zenimax board of directors.

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MonocleOwl
MonocleOwl

Will they throw out Gamebryo? If they don't use this new shiny engine to power later TES and Fallout games I'm not interested. Gamebryo needs to die, please let it die.

not_wanted
not_wanted

WOW what the fuck? So Doom 4 will use id Tech 5 and not this new engine? What happened to id? It looks like they will always be one generation behind regarding their engine. :(

And I don't even know what to say about their games lately.....

R083R70
R083R70

Man I really hope the announce Fallout 4 at the VGA's.

Techtroll
Techtroll

Would be nice if they threw a co-op in there

deadpeasant
deadpeasant

Hmm.. I'll bet it's the latest incarnation of the GameByro engine. I can't wait to see Fallout 4 powered by it! 

MadCat221
MadCat221

 Argh... Bethesda Game Studios does NOT own id Tech.  They are both owned by Zenimax.


And as a matter of course, Bethesda Game Studios is NOT the same as Bethesda Softworks.  The latter is Zenimax's publishing arm.  The former is one of Zenimax's dev studios.

Tygravius
Tygravius

Come to think of it, we really haven't heard anything from Bethesda on the developing side (sure publishing, yes). I kinda like that in a sense that they are just lurking in the background of all this 'new gen' hoopla going on. I feel they're going to come in strong with announcements the tail end of this year or for sure Q1 of next....and of course we all know what we want to hear:)

juboner
juboner

FO4 on new systems with new engine is going to be stunning. I remember seeing oblivion at that e3 with 360 as next gen and was blown away

starjay009
starjay009

Brothers and sisters, mark my words; FALLOUT 4 is IMMINENT on next gen !!!!!!!!! I AM PUMPED !!!! xD

LuckySavage
LuckySavage

It hurts me every time they tease me with bits of news on Fallout 4. It is the only game that I am looking forward to.

 Fallout 3 was the best game I've ever played and New Vegas was a huge disappointment.  

I wish Fallout 4 would have even more Liam Neeson, but it seems very unlikely....

Maybe Sean Connery could be my new father....

MateykoSlam
MateykoSlam

i want fallout 4 with that crappy creation engine used in skyrim its awesome

MJ12-Conspiracy
MJ12-Conspiracy

We'll be in for some good stuff, if it's based on Id Tech 5.....Rage only scratched the surface of that engine's possibilities and it makes sense for Bethesda to take advantage of Id Software like this.....if you have a high level engine in house you use it, it's in your best interest to use it......

Gamebryo was good for it's time and produced some good games but it's good Bethesda is moving on from that engine....

jd7904
jd7904

Hopefully this new engine has some better bug tracking software. They could definitely use it.

Boddicker
Boddicker

As long as it doesn't run like shit on consoles I'll be happy.

Talavaj
Talavaj

Yeah, right. Better hope it won't just be an "all new" Gamebryo v7.8.5.5.9.7

shannybaybay
shannybaybay

how long until a next gen elder scrolls is announced. forget fallout

Hekteur
Hekteur

Brace yourselves: "Bethesda is lying, it's the same old engine" comments are coming. And what's funny is, 99% of people who make this kind of statement about engine X or Y have no idea what they're talking about, have none to barely any knowledge about programming and have no inside information about the said engine.

JordanizPro
JordanizPro

Cool so the new engine is playable on the 360 and ps3. Yet another reason to not get a "next gen" console

gilldominic
gilldominic

I wonder what sort of scale they'll be aiming for in Fallout 4. I'm hoping the step up to "next-gen" hardware levels will allow them to aim for an even larger, widely populated game world.

PeterDuck
PeterDuck

Thank goodness. As much as I loved the last two Fallout games, the embryo engine with its lackluster physics and poor textures is the only thing that bugged me.

Garm31
Garm31

YES! A new Fallout and Elder scrolls on a probably beautiful new game engine.  I can start to forgive Bethesda for the shoddy looking, overpriced, ripoff, that is Elder Scrolls Online. Elder Scroll should never be an online WOW wannabe. It's a singleplayer experience. Greedy Bastards. 

focuspuller
focuspuller

Are they going to trademark the bugs that come with it as well?

asertyuio
asertyuio

@MonocleOwl I agree, they really need to get rid of gamebryo...Haven't they been listening to their customers? I haven't heard ANY praise for the gamebryo engine, nothing positive at all.

TommyT456
TommyT456

@LuckySavage I know right, I'm excited for a lot of stuff but FO4 being announced is the only thing that would send me craaaaaaazy lol. Fallout 3 is probably my favorite game of all time too, but I must admit despite the huge problems I still enjoyed New Vegas. I can understand the "disappointment" though as FO3 set the bar so high but for me any FO product is just gravy and I simply cannot wait for the announcement. When it comes then that is when next gen truly arrives :)

stev69
stev69

@shannybaybay Considering that ESO seems to be their main focus for that IP atm, i wouldn't hold your breath an offline ES will be in the works any time soon.

Mozuckint
Mozuckint

@Hekteur You don't need to know anything about programming to know that being powered by Id Tech is completely different than having Gamebryo as a base(The latter having been a basis in pretty much every Bethesda Game studio title this gen).

CnConrad
CnConrad

Where on earth did you see that?

Likely it is their replacement for the current gen Creation engine which one could assume will be their "next gen" engine.

SoNin360
SoNin360

@PeterDuck Hehe, embryo. That could be a joke implying that it's "unfinished" or something.

ntippit
ntippit

@Garm31 bethesda is not developing it dumb dumb, it is ZeniMax online studios, same parent company but it is not bethesda 

Xx_DemonSoul_xX
Xx_DemonSoul_xX

@focuspuller Yeah no shit. LOL -- Skyrim alone had more bugs than an ant hill at a sugar factory.

JordanizPro
JordanizPro

@CnConrad We will see. Most developers next gen engines are playable on ps3 and 360 so i wouldnt be surprised if this was the case for Bethesda's new engine as well. 

Jasper_73
Jasper_73

@pyro1245 @focuspuller  YAY..... Backwards Flying Dragons Anyone :-D LOL

tigress666
tigress666

@darkrayne @focuspuller Not when they cause the game to become unplayable laggy 2 minutes after you start it. If it doesn't crash 30 seconds after you start it. And if you are lucky and restart it about 5 times it becomes playable (to be fair after I've gained some hours on the character it gets like this but it's not the best part of the game by far).

anthonysiringo
anthonysiringo

@Xx_DemonSoul_xX I always found SOME of them to be entertaining. Like "Oh look there goes another one!" But I mean, what can we really expect when we are playing in such a large open world?

JordanizPro
JordanizPro

@CnConrad Yea im tired of the cross gen games as well but i should have seen this coming when i found out the ps4 and X1s power is not enough of a jump to make developers use engines that are completely impossible on current gen consoles. I expect the ps5 and new xbox to be a huge leap tho

CnConrad
CnConrad

I wouldn't be suprised but I sure would be disappointed. I think Bethsadia has more integrity than to release a cross gen game like EA Ubisoft and Activision.

The new consoles are not even out yet and I'm already sick of this cross gen trash.

The PC has been held back for years by these old consoles and I really hope the ps4 won't be also.

cratecruncher
cratecruncher

@Setho10 @Jasper_73 @ntippit @Garm31 I think you're being pedantic.  Corporate structures commonly have several shells but they all coordinate policy, share resources, and are led by the parent officers and therefore are all extensions of the SAME organization.

tigress666
tigress666

@Setho10 @Jasper_73 @ntippit @Garm31 And how do you know he wasn't referring to Bethesda Softworks? All he said was Bethesda and then said they published it and you are insisting he's talking about the developer. Just as you pointed out, Bethesda could mean either one.

From what I understand the publisher does allow them to use certain engines (That's how Oblivion used the same engine for Fallout Vegas as 3 from my understanding). So Zenimax having a new engine may mean Fallout 4 will be on that.

Setho10
Setho10

@Jasper_73 @ntippit @Garm31 There are two companies - Bethesda Softworks, the publishing arm of Zenimax, and Bethesda Game Studios, the developer of the Elder Scrolls games. Other than sharing a name and an owner these two companies are not related. Zenimax is the owner of the Elder Scrolls IP and can do with it what it wants. The team at Bethesda Game Studios has no say in it whatsoever. Think of them like one of the many internal studios at a company like EA. They are a Bioware or a Visceral or a DICE. They just happen to share their name with the publishing arm.