Dark Souls 2 screenshots with higher quality graphics removed from Steam Store page

Early screenshots of the game showing off better graphics were removed from Steam.

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A number of Dark Souls II screenshots with higher visual quality were removed from the game’s Steam Store page.

For example, the image above, which still appears on the game’s Amazon page, also appears in an Wayback Machine March 28 snapshot of the Dark Souls II Steam page. But at the moment, the Steam page features only seven screenshots released earlier this month, all of which show off graphics closer to the visual quality in the released console version of Dark Souls II.

From Software previously said that Dark Souls II on PC will feature "increased texture resolution" and an "enhanced frame-rate option."

From Software also recently responded to claims that the final version of Dark Souls II did not match the visual quality of the game's prerelease footage. “Throughout the game development process, a game is constantly being balanced not only in game playability, but also in the realm of resource management,” From Software said.

For more on Dark Souls II, check out GameSpot's review.

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189 comments
SillySkeleton
SillySkeleton

I love From for bringing me Demon's and Dark Souls, but they really threw me for a loop with those early PS3 screenshots of DSII. The graphics took a pretty big hit going from that to what was released.

Stiler
Stiler

Yes, force PC users with plenty of horsepower to only get the "Console" graphics options, no higher quality lighting or things like what was in the earlier versions. 


I do not get why they can't simply leave in the graphics? Just give us options to turn things off/on, let US decide if we can "handle" them or not, pc's are NOT consoles, you do not have to "tone things down" that you already made because of some baseline "pc," we can do that on our own.

Lpedraja2002
Lpedraja2002

Man I noticed this yesterday too.  Hope we get the 60 frames per second option, It would be interesting to play the game like that.

-Unreal-
-Unreal-

“Throughout the game development process, a game is constantly being balanced not only in game playability, but also in the realm of resource management,”

A realm in which PCs are lumped in the exact same spec profile as last gen consoles is a realm I'm not aware of. Sounds rather ridiculous to me. But then it's FROM Software. A technically inept developer.

RSM-HQ
RSM-HQ

I'm sure PC gamers will end up modding it anyway.


At least it shows they're eating humble pie for false presentation. So long as the game performs better than the console versions I'm sure only the Tech-nuts will care.


This is Dark Souls after all, not Crysis. 

fede018
fede018

Is this what they call the Streisand effect?

Lykanthropie
Lykanthropie

i may also wouldn't speak from a "final" Version of Dark Souls 2 yet, there are 2 console Ports out, ported from a PC leadplatform Game, ported by FROMSOFT, the game needed to be downgraded for 8 year old tech from a up to date PC Version that is still not released yet.


You can say that the PC Version will be the final version, DS2 for consoles is just the money maker.

Lykanthropie
Lykanthropie

I don't really see reasons why they should downgrade the graphics on PC, but lets see how it turns out.

If it will be another bad Port like DS1 i may just pass the game, maybe there would be another DSfix for it, but if they say PC leadplatform and come with a PS3 Version port with 60fps and minimal higher resolution it would be just a bad joke what they got out of their "leadplatform" the PC - which is way better then the new consoles.


But i really hope it won't turn out that way - graphics shown on the Pictures should be no problem for modern Pcs and even those a few years old should handle it, good PC Versions of Multiplats have even higher resolution textures and i would say even more lighting effects

If i look all the givin pictures . i would say it doesn't look that much better then Dark Souls with DSfix, i can understand that 7-8 year old consoles need to be downgraded for better fps when a games leadplatform is the PC theres no question it will turn out downgraded to the full details, DS1 had bad Fps on PS3 way to much - better less details then low fps.

More expensiv PCs could play the game even with 2160p and better textures, but that depends a lot on the programming - who knows if anything changed, all Souls Games have bad programming for all its systems, even Demons Souls which is made only for PS3 have some bad fps drops or the game may even crashes or wont recover from fps drop.

But that all would't be any excusion to downgrade the PC Version, thats something a PC user should do, just use graphic options like most PC Games have ... DS1 didn't really had that just minimal as possible, i never saw a port that bad, it runs horrible, the game uses full limitations of Console Versions even the FPs drops are nearly the same as on consoles.

Maybe Fromsoft should hire some more professional engine coders. if they didn't already.

I hope they will come up with some news about the PC Version soon, or just some new pictures.



Xx_DemonSoul_xX
Xx_DemonSoul_xX

I love From Software and all of the souls games. But this should have been designed for PC and next gen only. The current gen just couldn't handle it.

Karmazyn
Karmazyn

I intend to finish this games using keyboard only. I will use one hand too. PC FTW. praise the sun !

supercakefish
supercakefish

Why would they downgrade the PC version? PC could easily handle that lighting. And to think that they had the audacity to say PC was their leading platform.

panda0nX
panda0nX

lol its not like the game has amazing visuals anyway , but i have to say its my favorite souls game so far :) tons of fun and the smelter demons sword is awesome

gamerno66666
gamerno66666

 Meh. never cared about the graphics is DS. Although i hope they have better framerates and fix the eye soaring lava textures.

Sadek
Sadek

This console cycle has started off behind the pc. its a shame that developers limit themselves to the lowest common denominator rather than pushing the tech for pc. All so that consoles keep selling. Thats a flawed business model. 

jaron_swain
jaron_swain

I'm not sure what the entire uproar is even about, as the game has yet to come out on PC. At least From Soft is actually trying, instead of many other western developers, who would have by now given the majority of the gaming community the verbal and non verbal middle finger. I myself have faith that From Soft will release a stable, and graphically(even by a little bit) superior experience on PC compared to console versions. However, I also think that if people want to see continued work on the PC, they must be a tad more lenient with companies that are foreign to the PC market. Many developers could be looking at the community, and not want to deal with the overbearing amount of stress dealing with those who pretty much pick up a pitchfork due to hearsay.

lokustic
lokustic

That's why we need Feedbackula back to resolve this uproar!!  Make it happen Johnny!!!

mycruel
mycruel

people should be getting more arced up about the fact that the games got a 200 soul level cap, and even worse you cease to collect souls off fallen enemies after you reach a certain amount of accumulated souls... rendering this game pretty much unplayable anymore, or at least pointless to play. 

baldy40
baldy40

@Xx_DemonSoul_xX  I disagree.  There are plenty of games that show great graphics textures on a 8 year hardware.

untouchables111
untouchables111

I know right. Imagine what this game could have been on next gen. The lighting effects would have been crazy good.

Lpedraja2002
Lpedraja2002

@supercakefish Nothing is confirmed yet, that quote is referring to what happened with the console versions. 

cip_raziel
cip_raziel

@supercakefish To be fair, even the last gen consoles could have handled the lightning shown in the gameplay trailers; just look at some other great looking games on PS3/Xbox360 (ex: Bioshock Infinite, GTA5), but I guess FromSoftware don't know how to optimize their games. But doing the same for PC has no excuse, the same thing could have been said about the PC port of Dark Souls 1, that Durante guy fixed their game in 1 day so they could have done that too if they tried at least.

Hm went a bit off topic, anyway PC gamers still have possibilities to enhance the game's visual via ENB and SweetFX presets (a cinematic preset would bring the game pretty close to the trailers version imo).

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@Sadek  They go to consoles and give them the attention BECAUSE consoles sell not SO they sell. PC might have more power but people don't play them. None of the gamers I know use PC not a single one of them. Why because most of them are students and they have better things to spend their money on than GPUs and time spent building PCs. 

Consoles are convenient.

Besides they get a HELL of a lot of power out of those supposedly under powered components. PC games look better but the games are so under optimised you probably spend more on your computer to make up for it overall. If PC was so superior it could get the same quality of gameplay out of a set of components that were the same power as the consoles. But that is so far from the truth with how badly optimised everything is it is laughable. Master race, PAH.

People always bang on about how PCs are so much better value, well they fucking need to be with all the pissing around you have to go through to play games on PC in the first place.

I play PC games on my laptop which is about as standard plug and play, no mess method you can possibly get and it is still a massive pain in the ass, what with random bugs and conflicts with my PC software. I've had my Xbox 360 for six years and apart from the manufacturers red ring of death problem there hasn't been a single problem. Every game I've ever tried on it has worked first time, at the start of the cycle and at the end. No upgrading needed.

You can shove your graphics in that case.

Elite_Bushido
Elite_Bushido

@Sadek except this has nothing to do with PS4/XO at all... literally, nothing at all..........

HiroArka
HiroArka

@Brakkyn  That game is Heavenly!! I do hope you are not dissing Super Ghouls and Ghosts!! 

ducusss
ducusss

@tightwad34 @panda0nX  SPOILERS, I guess: You trade the smelter demon's soul with Straid to get it. Straid is petrified in the doorway of a prison cell in Lost Bastille, right before you reach Sinner's Rise if you haven't found him already. And to the original poster: Really? I enjoyed it and found it to be a good entry in the series, but I also found it to be the weakest Souls game.

Gvaz
Gvaz

@Dannystaples14  lol look at you. 90s called, they want their anecdotal facts back

UssjTrunks
UssjTrunks

@Dannystaples14 PC gaming is both cheaper and more convenient than console gaming. You can easily build a gaming PC more powerful than the PS4/X1 for around $500. A console costs you $400-500, but then you still need to dish out another $400-500 for a crappy desktop or laptop (since you still need a computer). With consoles, you're looking at around a $1000 investment, at minimum.

PC games themselves are also many times cheaper than on consoles (most of the games in my Steam collection were purchased for under $10). You also don't need to wait in line outside for a physical copy of the game with everything being digitally distributed on PC.

Optimization has nothing to do with the PC, and everything to do with the developers. Most games are developed for consoles because that is where the majority of casual gamers are. That isn't an indictment of PC hardware somehow being flawed.

Lpedraja2002
Lpedraja2002

@Dannystaples14"PC might have more power but people don't play them. None of the gamers I know use PC not a single one of them. Why because most of them are students and they have better things to spend their money on than GPUs and time spent building PCs. "


So you think the people you know is a fairly accurate estimate of how many people play games?  Even you must know that this doesn't make any sense and as far as the student thing goes, well, if you're a student who makes smart financial decisions you would know that in the long run a PC is way more versatile for your life + you can play games and its cheaper so why not use a PC for gaming?  And learning to troubleshoot problems in computers is a nice way to gain interest for an IT career or anything that uses PC's these days.  So yeah apart from entertainment you get an investment for your possible future career.  


With consoles all you get is wasted brain cells.

alexul2009
alexul2009

"Besides they get a HELL of a lot of power out of those supposedly under powered components. PC games look better but the games are so under optimised you probably spend more on your computer to make up for it overall. If PC was so superior it could get the same quality of gameplay out of a set of components that were the same power as the consoles. But that is so far from the truth with how badly optimised everything is it is laughable. Master race, PAH."

I. This here is the "creed" of most console gamers this is how they justify their purchase of a console and not a pc, this and "building a pc is hard .. to many components".

" If PC was so superior it could get the same quality of gameplay out of a set of components that were the same power as the consoles."

II. This here makes 0 sense because a pc is an "evolving" platform .. not all PCs are the same, it's not that games couldn't be optimized for just one pc configuration of course they could but it would be a very stupid thing to do almost as stupid as what u wrote.

You got it all backwards .. Consoles can't keep up with PC not the other way around consoles can't get the same "quality of gameplay" that PCs do .. that's why Crysis 1 never came to consoles .. the developers actually said that for the game to be ported to consoles too much of it would have to be sacrificed .. For the same reason the torch mechanic was dropped in DarkSouls-II so the consoles are actually "HURTING" and keeping back the "evolution" of games.

"People always bang on about how PCs are so much better value, well they fucking need to be with all the pissing around you have to go through to play games on PC in the first place."

Ohh it's so hard to start playing a game on pc ohh nooo the TERROR every time i have to start the pc (im my case .. that's moving the mouse for an inch or 2) then wait for 20 seconds until the pc boots ohh what a TERROR and then i have to do the unthinkable CLICK TWICE .. TWICE MAN ohh the Hoorrror.

And instaling games pff so difficult steam is so counter-intuitive pff im not even going to tell you abut that i don't want anyone to get any nightmares because of me.

This is not 2006 when the ps3 hardware(Cell microprocessor) looked like something stolen for aliens compared to what amd/nvidia/intel had to offer this is 2014 and trust me things are verrrrry different u can ask a lot of ppl the xbox one/ps4 use pc hardware from 2011 and since then not only the price on said hardware has dropped but there are better components at the same/lower price all u need to do is grow a brain a look for the pc parts u need to "build a better ps4/xbox one" after all the ps4 and especially the xbox one ware advertised as being more pc-like so why not just buy a PC then (ps u can use a tv or an existing monitor u don't need to buy that to if u want to build a pc and k/m are much less expensive than a ps3 controller unless u want some "fancy" k/m but this is "beauty" of pc gaming .. u HAVE OPTIONS)

A pc offers "better value" because for the same $$ u get better graphics/more utility/the possibility to UPGRADE/and in some cases a superior gameplay experience.  

"I play PC games on my laptop which is about as standard plug and play, no mess method you can possibly get and it is still a massive pain in the ass, what with random bugs and conflicts with my PC software. I've had my Xbox 360 for six years and apart from the manufacturers red ring of death problem there hasn't been a single problem. Every game I've ever tried on it has worked first time, at the start of the cycle and at the end. No upgrading needed."


Dude that is not pc gaming.
I don't know what laptop u have and i don't care but u obviously have no idea what u are doing when using it also a laptop is not a good idea for gaming in general of course u can do it if u rly want to, but a gaming laptop is far more expensive than a HIGH rly HIGH end pc and it's not as good in most cases + unless u rly like the keyboard/small screen a laptop offers or the "mobility" i don't see the point of using a laptop for gaming.

"You can shove your graphics in that case."

 It's not just graphics .. it's entire gamplay mechanics that get advertised after they are tested on pc and then are dropped because of the console limitations (torch in ds-2 for ex).

alexul2009
alexul2009

ok ok i see you're a fanboy .. 

1. "They go to consoles and give them the attention BECAUSE consoles sell not SO they sell. PC might have more power but people don't play them. None of the gamers I know use PC not a single one of them. Why because most of them are students and they have better things to spend their money on than GPUs and time spent building PCs."

 This here is ALL WRONG hehe just WRONG 

 I. they go to consoles because it's easier/it costs less, they have to optimize the game for just 1 architecture and after so many years game developers know the ps3/xbox architecture quite well (when the ps3 first appeared coding for it was a pain in the..)

 II. they go to consoles because xbox/ps4 pay the developers for exclusive titles so their consoles can sell 

if a console has no games no one will ever buy it ex: WII U

Multiplatform games won't sell very well on consoles if the pc version looks far better because like it or not GRAPHICS MATTER, graphics=immersion and graphics are the first thing u find out about a game when u look at it .. for ex if u show someone who never played video games, Minecraft and then moded Skyrim to that person Minecraft would look like a waste of time, a pice of .. ok u get it right ?!

For the same reason the pc version of a game is usually released after the console one .. why would anyone buy the inferior version of anything if they could just buy a better version of the same product(better graphics better fps/no blighttown hehe) and pay ~ same price or less (digital version)

 III. they go to consoles because the pc market in underestimated for some video game genres BUT in the past years that has started to CHANGE.. DarkSouls I-II are multiplatform games because FromSoftware/namco bandai noticed that pc gamers would buy/play their games.

IV. they go to consoles because most console gamers are easy to appease how else would anyone explain the 9000 cod/fifa/nfl games that sell very well every year on consoles .. u show DarkSouls-I to a console gamer and he will think that game is the most beautiful looking game in all history .. i guess it's true .. ignorance is bliss (unless u have a gaming pc, mid range .. nothing fancy u have nothing to compare that game to for ex if u never played Skyrim/Crysis/Gta-IV on both platform u will think the console version of the game actually looks ok .. but if u did play it on a pc then you would never play it again on console unless u want an inferior gaming experience.

Most console gamers don't spend any time on forums or internet in general so they won't complain about false advertising, again easy to appease (that's what happened with DS-II but of course most console gamers didn't even notice)

V.MONEY .. hehe .. the same price u have to pay for a xbox ONE can be used to buy the EXACT SAME HARDWARE maybe even at a lower price or u can just take that money and buy better hardware since it's not 2011 anymore

but if want to just buy a second had xbox360/ps3 yes that's much cheaper only prob is they tend to break quite often .. just ask anyone from gamespot when u get a chance how many broken xboxes  they have .. u will be amazed .. (u can buid a fort out of them)

The only True reasons to buy a console are: 1. it's cheap(second hand especially) 2.I don't know how to build a pc

3.The exculusive titles.

of all this reasons for a true gamer ony the last one matters.

qewretrytuyiuoi
qewretrytuyiuoi

@Dannystaples14  "PC might have more power but people don't play them"   this is incorrect, 7.2 million people used Steam to play a game on YESTERDAY  ( http://store.steampowered.com/stats/.


 There are over 70 million registered steam accounts (I stopped playing online around 18 months ago so there are probably more now) 
that is just one of the many services (others like Origin [EA said players logged into Origin 726,858,789 times during 2013.], Battlenet [no figures]etc) that people log onto play on their PC's.

If you read here you will see that there are 48 million XBL accounts : 
http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/Live

In November last year there were 150 million+ PSN accounts according to this article : http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-11-13-playstation-plus-has-seen-significant-growth-says-sony


The PC as a gaming platform is very much alive and it is also possible to build a PC more powerful  than the new consoles for less money.


tightwad34
tightwad34

@ducusss I actually just made it to the Smelter Demon last night and only fought him once then I had to go to work. My best weapon is the long firesword to obviously it didn't do any real damage to him. No, I haven't found Straid yet, and thanks for the reply and the spoiler warning.

ecter1216
ecter1216

 @Dannystaples14 You must be uneducated or just really stubborn. I have all consoles and still use my PC the most. Sure CURRENTLY most the games come to consoles but I see this year 8/10 games I want to play will be coming to my computer. And it takes me all of 30 secs to jump right into a game...thank god for SSD. Way quicker then turning on my PS3 or PS4 from sleep. 


PC gaming is cheaper, easier , and better value as game can be modded. A dead game on a console can be made into a whole new experience on the PC!  


And this is coming from a guy who was against PCs.....till I spent the 2 hours to research it all. It really isn't that complex to build a pc. 

qewretrytuyiuoi
qewretrytuyiuoi

@RSM-HQ Firstly I never once mentioned anything about graphics, I was simply saying that the PC as a gaming platform is not dead......

Secondly, I again never said that the people who logged onto steam only used a PC as a gaming platform......

Thirdly, I have never once in my 35 (thirty five) years of gaming ever called any console bad ,useless or anything similar ( I own 4 [four] xbox 360's, a PS2 [greatest console ever made], a PSP and will soon pick up a cheap PS3 purely for The Last Of Us) as every single console ever made has had one feature that the others did not.  And what other consoles I dont physically own I have Emulators for on PC (anything above ps2/original xbox is not possible atm),

 I am probably one of the most complete "gamers" on this site as I have no allegiance to any platform at all. 

I found Darksouls on PC a little annoying purely because it only ran at 30 fps, in places it was a little rough but that didn't make me spit my dummy out and not play it, hell I died with the best of them :) 

consoles are indeed a very simple way of game playing as you put in the game, turn it on, fun starts in about 20-30 seconds - great.

It doesn't matter what you play on as long as you play........please remember that.

I 100% agree with you about Doom3  it was like a stereotypical beauty queen, all looks and no substance.... Graphics do not and never have made a game good. you can dress a Pig in an Armarni suit but beneath it all it's still just a Pig....

RSM-HQ
RSM-HQ

@qewretrytuyiuoi I'm registered with Steam also but doesn't mean PC is my preferred source of gaming. 


Danny had a point, even though harsh it's not all that different from Sadeks frank view. it's about gameplay, not graphics. This is the truth to all games, if you think otherwise? Why you bother is beyond me. Doom III was a great example of PC gamers bragging about a crappy game with superior graphics.


Demon's Souls, the developers first game was born on a console, and without that games success PC gamers would have never seen the Dark series, in any shape or form.


Consoles are the popular choice, and they sell. Why? Not because they're stupid or cheap, it's because it's less fuss and simple to jump straight in.


The original consoles got advertised with a simple message 

"The Arcades in your home"


& that what it's all about.