Crave leaves ESA

Pinball Hall of Fame publisher becomes the fifth member to leave trade group this year; fewer than two dozen companies remain.

The Entertainment Software Association has had a tumultuous 2008. The year isn't even half over, and the gaming-industry trade group has already lost a handful of members representing a cross-section of Western publishers. The biggest of the big, the soon-to-be-merged Activision and Vivendi Games, touched off the wave of departures, and were followed by midsize LucasArts and venerable indie developer id Software.

A fifth departure, that of Pinball Hall of Fame and World Championship Poker publisher Crave Entertainment, was reported by GamePolitics today, and GameSpot has since confirmed the departure with the ESA.

"We can confirm that Crave has decided not to renew its membership in the ESA," said ESA senior vice president of communications and research Rich Taylor. "We value each member of our association, but respect their decision. In conversations with Crave, representatives stated that they value their long-standing membership with the ESA and remain committed to the values and goals of the association."

It is unclear at the moment if Crave will continue with plans to showcase games next month at the E3 Media & Business Summit, the ESA's premiere trade show. Although Activision, Vivendi, and id apparently scuttled any plans for the show when they left the organization, LucasArts and Crave are still listed on the E3 Web site as participating companies.

[UPDATE] A Crave representative has provided a statement on the company's departure, saying, "Crave's departure from ESA at this juncture is not a statement against the value provided by our longstanding membership, but rather was motivated by our need to focus on the impending sale of our company. We will be re-evaluating our decision, hopefully in the near future. Crave still supports the goals and aims of ESA."

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ZabuzaR
ZabuzaR

Sad that the ESA and E3 are going down the drains... But its not sad that crave left ESA

cooldude03
cooldude03

I don't care about E3, but every gamer should care about ESA. ESA is the reason developers are free to make the games they want to make. ESA fights the lawmakers that are triing to take away our freedoms. These gaming companies are destroying the company that has saved them over and over again. Without the finantial backing of these companies the ESA will not survive. Then there will be nobody to protect our games from the lawmakers.

Leo_Colt
Leo_Colt

E3 is dead. They killed it, and now no one is interested anymore. That's why they're all leaving.

Kravyn81
Kravyn81

Everybody sing along! :D *dun dun dun* Another one bites the dust/and another one gone and another one gone/another one bites the dust!

CageFury
CageFury

Oh no! What will we do at E3 without pinball and poker?

ColdfireTrilogy
ColdfireTrilogy

E3 is on a downturn. Hey devs i got a pretty big basement, blizzard your more than welcome to come showcase down here ... P.S. its nice and chilly and if it gets too crowded we can move it outside i have a Cul de sac!

jdiego82
jdiego82

They need to make E3 public again...

combatsoldier
combatsoldier

Will someone please save e3 and restore it to its former glory.

BigSmitts07
BigSmitts07

and yet another one leaves..should have never done away with e3

Adam_the_Nerd
Adam_the_Nerd

I'm telling you, no one wants to show for the "New E3" because it's no fun. Part of the reason E3 was so awesome was because it was loud, public, overhyped and just a plain blast. Now it's all, WOO Aircraft hangar

nnn2004
nnn2004

if its will go like that i think we will see one section in this E3.

dulun19
dulun19

..... too expensive i bet..

javierkatana
javierkatana

Why pay 5 million for an event were only the press is welcome, when 5 million invested in gamespot ads (=good reviews) would give more results. They are ruining this until in 2012 E3 will actually have only 3 publishers.

NA3D
NA3D

I just wanted to re-post this link for those who are interested in voicing out about getting more info on this story, and try to dig for more details. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26451807&msg_id=302694267#302694267 I know I normally dont go down 5 posts, but I won't post this link again because I dont want to spam. I know there is a update now, but it would be nice to get more information from companies that are not saying only cheery things about ESA. (We are thankful for them for what they do, but no one can voice an opinion about what needs to be improved if no one says anything about what needs to be improved.)

Nintendo_Man
Nintendo_Man moderator

If anyone looks at Crave's upcoming line-up of casual shovelware then be happy we won't see them as E3 anymore.

ColdGen
ColdGen

More and more devs/publishers are hosting their own events these days (Ubidays for example) so E3 is a non-issue really.

Zoomer30
Zoomer30

wow.....E3 is gonna be odd with no one there :lol:

rocketraydog
rocketraydog

CRAVE IS A GOOD COMPANY BUT IT IS SAD THAT THEY LEFT

BorosHero
BorosHero

I can honestly say that I thought Crave went under about 5 years ago.

Gen007
Gen007

yeah most people dont care but rememebr this affects E3 and if you though it was bad last year well this year is gonna be a complete disaster.

combatsoldier
combatsoldier

I just hope this isnt the beginning of the end to a downward spiral. This is a huge blow and fatal error.

Evz0rz
Evz0rz

Oh noes....what are we going to do without Crave?

kos1085
kos1085

Soon all third party publishers will be gone. Maybe they should establish their own organization.

TheVinster
TheVinster

E3 Before -Public. -Booth babes. -Entertainment HUB. -Accessible. -Prime marketing. E3 After -Crickets.

superjon6
superjon6

the show should be alright as long as sony, nintendo, and microsoft don't leave

Pittfan666
Pittfan666

I'd leave the ESA too considering E3 is a joke now, and my game would probably never get noticed.

dukerav
dukerav

The downfall of the ESA ?

Ranteal
Ranteal

They probably didnt share there apple candy. That stuff is very good, and should be shared. I am very sad that the apple candy is hoarded so greedily by some, loved by all.

combatsoldier
combatsoldier

Man I love E3 but its not even worth getting involved with any more. What a huge let down.

Hihatrider87
Hihatrider87

what the hell is happening to ESA. why's everybody leaving.

Pinkyimp
Pinkyimp

E3 sucks now..time to wait for TGS

Milky_1674
Milky_1674

IMPLOSION! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! ;P

UnchainedPsYcO
UnchainedPsYcO

Another one bites the dust But u know I really think Crave just commited gaming developing company sucide CONGRATUATIONS CRAVE ON YOUR EPIC FAILURE

Viral-venom13
Viral-venom13

Another 1 gone, who will be next on the list!

TWiSTEDmerc
TWiSTEDmerc

I'm doubting that Craves departure is going to effect E3 a lot; Crave has too many half baked games and its unlikely that people will buy those games.

UnchainedPsYcO
UnchainedPsYcO

In other news. E3 is the least anticipated gaming event for 2008 and beyond. CONGRATULATIONS ESA WAY TO BURY SUCH A GREAT EXPO

RockaWuzHur
RockaWuzHur

I remember the days where when E3 came around it was like the second coming. Now its like Ray Js birthday no one really cares.

NA3D
NA3D

There is more to this story than what GS is reporting on. Everyone go to: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26451807&msg_id=302694267#302694267 And request that GS dig deeper and give us some real news. Find out why they left. I don't only want to know what is going on on the outside, give me some inside news. That is a huge part of why I come to this site. Lets air some dirty laundry, careful with EA's though, you might find some dead bodies, haha. If you think I am crazy, say it in there, haha. No matter what your opinion is, go ahead and voice it actually, because if the poll is drastically one way or the other it can help GS customize the site more to make us as happy as possible.

Maxor127
Maxor127

Yay another ESA thread so I can laugh at all of the clueless people saying OMG it's because they ruined E3!

DarkElf2112
DarkElf2112

I can see why Activision would leave ESA, they are a huge company that can hold thier own expo every year and everyone would come running. But I don't see how a smaller developer like this has any chance of getting exposure without a stage like E3. I never heard of Crave before and after this I probably never will again.

tony2077ca
tony2077ca

if enough leave maybe esa will rethink what it did to E3

CVM_123
CVM_123

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corn999
corn999

holly crap is the children of the corn!

earth07
earth07

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Agreb91
Agreb91

Well the ESA should see it isn't representing the industry as a whole anymore and should do something about it and to regain the reputation it needs to represent the gaming industry.

ultimatlifeform
ultimatlifeform

E3 is going to revert a few things back, but not fully. Even so, to those saying that "E3 is going to die," I don't see that happening any time soon. It probably won't ever be as it was before, but they'll likely integrate a few old things back into the new E3 Media and Business Summit to keep things going. It was just too big before, so they skimmed it down, and now see that they may have skimmed off a bit too much.

Phazevariance
Phazevariance

Why are people pulling out of e3? Isnt this year back to the roots of how it used to operate?