Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel not as big as Borderlands 2, may not be full price

Gearbox president Randy Pitchford says "We're still getting a grasp on scope," and mentions that "it should be priced correctly."

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The size of the game world for upcoming Borderlands game, Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel, is bigger than the original but smaller than Borderlands 2, Gearbox Software president Randy Pitchford says. In a new interview with PC Gamer, Pitchford pointed that fact out and said, "We're still getting a grasp on scope."

"It's pretty big. I don't think it's going to be as big as Borderlands 2. It might be as big, or a little bigger, than Borderlands 1," Pitchford said. "It might be kind of in between the two."

Concerning the price point for Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel, Pitchford said the final decision is up in the air and will ultimately be decided by publisher 2K Games.

"As far as price point goes, I don't think that's set in stone yet. It should be priced correctly, so we'll have to see what happens in the market and understand the actual total value proposition that's being offered," he said. "But I'm the developer. The guys at 2K will figure that out."

Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel launches this fall for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC. Gearbox is serving as co-developer on the project alongside 2K Australia. The studio is also working on unannounced new games for next-generation consoles. Pitchford said recently that the studio will "probably" have a new game for new consoles to announce as early as later this year.

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Discussion

144 comments
cynicritic
cynicritic

My question? How are they going to manage playing as a 3 foot tall, cowardly robot that wont SHUT UP? Or will he magically be the same height as the other characters? 

I'll stick to the BRILLIANT Borderlands 2 and wait for Borderlands 3. 

g1rldraco7
g1rldraco7

As long as they don't over price it, I'm good.

ferrarimanf355
ferrarimanf355

It's not as big as BL2 because they didn't swindle Sega for money this time. 

pepsicraver
pepsicraver

If a 2k publish reads this that can impact this decision... please make it as cheap as possible because im going to need money to pay for all the classes im going to fail when I devote my life to this game. 

crashmer
crashmer

Who buys games at full price? lol

Boddicker
Boddicker

I'm guessing $40 then hit us over the head with DLC overkill.

sakaixx
sakaixx

not full price ? aye probably $54.99

themc_7
themc_7

It'll be $60. If he's saying it's about the same size as BL1, they'll definitely charge you full price. If a publisher can get another $20 from you, they will everytime. Also i'm sure they're DLC

skipper847
skipper847

Played boarderlands 1 and finished but tried Boarderlands 2 a dozen times but just cant get into it.  Plus this prequel must have taken them 2 mins to put together.

zzz802
zzz802

Don't worry, it'll be getting bigger with all of the DLC they will release

BamaGoatt
BamaGoatt

Someone needs to say it thats what she said lol!

comb5
comb5

Well new class DLCs for BL2 were $10. So if they charged $40 that would be great. Because we'll be getting 4 new classes, a huge new campaign, plenty of sidequests, and new mechanics. Really don't see what the issue is. I'm stoked to mess around with the new classes. Class building is always my favorite part of any RPG.

halo44327
halo44327

If it's not as big, I hope then return it with double the references, jokes, and replay value

MooncalfReviews
MooncalfReviews

When a series starts making .5 iteration jumps and prequels to sequels, you know it's the beginning of the end for that series.

crunchb3rry
crunchb3rry

Well, my theory has been proven correct. That this is just a placeholder game to buy them an extra year of development on Borderlands 3...since every franchise thinks it'll suddenly "die" if there's not another one every year at the same exact time. Wish publishers would realize it's OKAY to not put out a game every year. Take the time you need, don't worry about the stock market to the point where it dictates every one of your actions.

AyatollaofRnR
AyatollaofRnR

$20-30 would make sense. It's a last gen title, with less content than a normal Borderlands game.

ringringabel
ringringabel

borderlands 2 was a great game, never even got to most of the side quests. i haven't tried the first one so i don't know how big it will be, but i will gladly buy this one to participate in jolly co-op w/ my friends. there's not enough co-op games on the market and BL series is one of the few that fill in that gap!

dono14
dono14

If it's as big, or bigger than BL1 why would it not sell for full price?

FretsOfDeath
FretsOfDeath

Wow! People really can't be satisfied at all. Regardless of what the game was, who made it, or how large it was, what characters are in it, or when it's release date is, price etc, people are going to bitch. It's sad how completely miserable some of you people are when it comes to video games and deplorable that you could call yourselves gamer's.


It's a new game. Who cares if it's made on the same engine as Borderlands 2? Borderlands 2 was an awesome game! It has new characters. Yes, 3 of them are now dead POST Borderlands 2. The game takes place before that, so the characters work. It's a completely different environment, with a new story line, introducing some new game mechanics (i.e. gravity, and cryo weapons...and I'm sure some new ones as well). He said that size wise, it will be larger than the first one. If that's the case, how is this by any means a small game? If it falls between the length of the first and second games, then that is a good size game, and deserving of a full game price tag.


I"ve now played through both games 3 times, and am working on the DLC for the second one now. I for one can't wait for this to come out. Borderlands are easily some of, if not my most favorite games, and they are also very popular games. I'd gladly pay full price for this one release day.

Tremblay343
Tremblay343

Farmed out to a random studio, only on platforms with massive install base, coming out at a "budget" price.


"We're running out of money, I think it's time we shit out another borderlands"

deadpen
deadpen

MGS made a half ass game for parcel price so why doesn't everyone just do it. Hey rockstar why don't you make a GTA that is one city block?!?!

mos2000
mos2000

As much as there is fanfare for BL2, I don't find anything to be excited about...yet


From what it sounds and appears, it will feel and play exactly like BL2, but with different skins characters and areas.


If that's the case, this is not a complete or new game, this is an extended DLC. They better not charge full price for something like that.


Regardless of what they do,  I also hope they correct some of the loose ends that surfaced in 2 that were not an issue in 1 (lackluster: level design, power skills, loot drops, enemies).


Again, I'm not yet excited, but as a fan of BL1 I'm interested to see how this pans out.


zerohournow
zerohournow

Just remove all that dreadful re-spawning and it will be playable...

ThePowerOfHAT
ThePowerOfHAT

This is actually great news to me.  I look at The Pre-Sequel as more of a massive BL2 expansion than a full-on standalone game (even though it IS one), and if it's a $30 or $40 game, there's a solid chance I'll get it.  Really, my first guess when it was announced is that it started out as DLC for BL2 and grew into something bigger.  This makes more sense as a budget title than another $60 entry in the series (especially considering that there are clearly some reused assets from BL2), and I'm hoping 2K and Gearbox sell it in a price that fits accordingly.

commando1992
commando1992

It'd be a shame if they sold this at full price when it's little more then a standalone expansion pack running on the same engine with a new campaign and a couple new gimmicks, but this is hardly anything new. See Fallout New Vegas and Assassin's Creed Brotherhood and Revelations. And the last half dozen or so Call of Duty/Battlefields. 

Freezezzy
Freezezzy

@cynicritic Salvador was much shorter than the other characters in Borderlands 2, and it definitely showed when playing as him.

Eraldus
Eraldus

@crashmer The same people that makes so that you can buy them cheaper later... You should be thankful to them.

deathstream
deathstream

@Boddicker  


Borderlands DLC has always been a value for the money.  Some of the DLC packs have been longer than full retail games.

clay1311
clay1311

@themc_7 You must play on console. If that's the case you're probably right. I'm guessing between $30-$40 on PC through Steam.

Shinoyami65
Shinoyami65

@themc_7 Borderlands 1 GOTY and Borderlands 2 are only $20 on Steam, so at the most it'll probably be around that price range.

themc_7
themc_7

@comb5  it looks like this could've been a BL2 DLC. and I sort of wish that's what it was. 

Shinoyami65
Shinoyami65

@crunchb3rry At least they'll have more money to push into Borderlands 3, at the very least....

comb5
comb5

@crunchb3rry  I would agree with you, but they are adding new mechanics and four new playable classes. If it was just a gigantic BL2 DLC then I would agree with you, cause that game is super played out.

BankAMG
BankAMG

@crunchb3rry  I understand what you are saying but if they are not releasing games they are not making money. If it dont make dollars it dont make sense

Shinoyami65
Shinoyami65

@AyatollaofRnR I'd agree with this, considering both Borderlands games cost around $20 on Steam. $60 sounds ridiculously extravagant if they say it's going to cost less (not including DLC, if there even is any).

themc_7
themc_7

@AyatollaofRnR  that'll never happen. This will be milked for every dollar. Count on this being $40-60

Shinoyami65
Shinoyami65

@dono14 Because then people will complain about how expensive it is. Which is what about 40% of these comments are about.

Tremblay343
Tremblay343

@FretsOfDeath  Yes how awful we are to not want the exact same thing.  It would have been perfectly okay for them to just release borderlands 3 when it was ready.


This is a 100% cash grab.  It's the same with Arkham origins, and look how that turned out.  Rocksteady is trying to distance themselves every chance they can get when demoing their new game to press.  Turns out pumping out garbage is harmful to the IP

clay1311
clay1311

@Tremblay343 Yes..."shit" out another Borderlands that took months and months of development with more of the same content its fans love and constantly want more of so said company can continue to make future games. How dare a company give its fans what it wants!! And charge a completely fair price for it to boot! Go point your "cash grab" comments and malcontent towards studios that warrant them, like EA.

themc_7
themc_7

@zerohournow  how would you replace the respawn system? Reload checkpoint like everything else? That's really all it is. You pay money to respawn, all enemies health returns to full and you try again. 

Barighm
Barighm

@ThePowerOfHAT Oh, you poor soul. You actually believe they're going to release it at a reduced price.


This is 2K. The guys who lowered the drop rates of Legendaries for the express purpose of encouraging people to buy the Legendary Drops DLC.

comb5
comb5

@themc_7 @comb5  If it was a DLC it would still be $40. And this is nice because you don't actually need a copy of BL2. Though I'm not sure why anyone who doesn't have BL2 would get this.

FretsOfDeath
FretsOfDeath

@Tremblay343 @FretsOfDeath  so the fact that it's simply not titled Borderlands 3 doesn't make it worthy of being a fully priced full length title? Regardless of it's title, it's still a new full length title. If it's larger than BL1, I don't understand any reasoning for it to be priced lower. 


My point is, even if this was Borderlands 3 we were talking about, 50% of the people on here would still bitch that it was a rushed cash grab, glorified DLC. If it were released a year later, those same people would bitch that it took them too long and state that there must be problems with the game, etc. Point is, beggars can't be choosers. And too many people on here are simple beggars, who can never be satisfied. All they know how to do is complain. Considering themselves gamers, is sad and deplorable.

FretsOfDeath
FretsOfDeath

@clay1311 @Tremblay343  Exactly. How do people consider this to be so appalling that 2K Games and Gearbox would want to make a follow up to their highest selling game to date, in Borderlands 2. And it's not like it's a rushed cash grab like people keep claiming it to be. I believe Randy Pitchford even stated in another video that 2K Australia started working on this shortly after the release of Borderlands 2, which would put this at about a year and a half into development, and two years upon release this fall.

comb5
comb5

@Barighm  What the hell is the "Legendary Drops DLC?" I've put 400 hours into BL2 and have no idea what you're talking about. 

clay1311
clay1311

@deathstream @clay1311@themc_7Another silly goose who believes the digital medium somehow reduces the value of a game. Over 6 years and literally thousands of dollars saved on Steam sales disagree with you.