American McGee gauging interest for Alice 3

Developer asks fans if they would support a Kickstarter campaign for a third entry in series if rights can be obtained from EA.

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American McGee wants to know if gamers would be interested in Alice 3. Writing on Facebook, the game designer asked fans if they would support a Kickstarter campaign for the game, provided the rights could be acquired from Electronic Arts.

McGee said fans should "make some noise" if they want the game to become a reality.

"I'm trying to gauge interest in case I happen to discuss this with EA during [the Game Developers Conference] in two weeks," McGee said. "The more interest there is, the more seriously they'll take the conversation."

Last month, McGee bemoaned EA's marketing of Alice: Madness Returns. On Reddit, he claimed EA intentionally created trailers for the game that would "trick" gamers into thinking the game was a hardcore horror title.

If McGee can obtain the Alice rights from EA for a Kickstarter campaign, it won't be his first stab at the crowdfunding service. The developer and his studio, Spicy Horse Games, successfully funded free-to-play game Akaneiro: Demon Hunters through the platform.

For more on the Alice series, check out GameSpot's review of Alice: Madness Returns.

Discussion

102 comments
sweetludde95
sweetludde95

YES!!!! do it do it now i love 1 and 2 of the  Alice  series :D

befo72
befo72

Yes Yes yes! I loved both of the Alice games and would wholeheartedly support a third installment.

lee1823
lee1823

just out of interest..... does anyone know Yu Suzuki's number for a Shenmue 3 kickstarter so i can start it off? seriously though...... how could we go about a petition or something? even if it was developed just for dreamcast. i know this has nothing to do with the current thread....

DETfaninATL
DETfaninATL

Hell yes!!!!!! They can have my full $60 pre-order right now if they get this going and can make it as good if not better than Madness Returns. Loved that game. Great level design and fantastic score. Loved it. Always hoped they'd make a sequel. Hopefully I get my wish!

Kyrylo
Kyrylo

yes, please, please, pleas!!!

bannermanner
bannermanner

If they can vary up the mechanics (something they didn't do in Madness Returns), I'm definitely in.

qreyjhansi
qreyjhansi

Thing is, how do we make noise... Aw well, will keep my eyes open for the kickstarter. 

qreyjhansi
qreyjhansi

That would be awesome! Do it, American McGee! The game's great and would be so much better without EA fumbling about. 

Rheinmetal
Rheinmetal

I'm not interested. Alice Madness Returns was not bad, but not good either.

SuBpk10
SuBpk10

This would be great, I would definitely play it!
You would have to get the rights away from EA though as they have been ruining a lot of game series'.

Gomtor
Gomtor

I would like it very much, thank you.  PS - except if it has always online.

hazuki
hazuki

Alice: Madness Returns wasn't an amazing game. Actually it put me to sleep at one point, just because it never really moved along. The original PC game was amazing though. It just felt so creative. Amazing music and atmosphere. Madness Returns had good atmosphere, but very much lacked anhy good music.  I would definately give Alice 3 a shot. But its got to have some creativity in it. A good story. Get Trent Reznor or somebody that knows music. 

cent73
cent73

It seems like some of the guys here can't read. American is thinking about acquiring rights from EA, so that he could develop the game freely, without any big publishers' supervision. He's been there, done that. His own studio, Spicy Horse (you might wanna check out their website with their games), developed Alice 2 but had to obey EA whatever they were telling them to do. American stated he was never happy with some of the publisher's decisions. He actually had anticipated the reactions and the critique Alice 2 would be met with.

So, why don't you give him some slack? It's a damn tough business to be in sometimes. Big publishers are only thinking about dough as they're driven by what marketing dept. tells them. Sadly, devs are just tools for them.

@odinoDo yourself a favor and get to his blog, get to know him and his company a little and stop being pathetic. It takes an ignorant to judge people by their place of residence.

odino
odino

Sorry Mr. "American" McGee, but since you left your country behind and thought that you would have great success in China, then you fail and need to ask for kickstarter projects for pretty much all your work now, I fail to see why we need to support you and the Chinese game industry after you ditched us and felt all elite to venture abroad.

gix47
gix47

doubt this will happen,would be great but EA holds all the cards and McGee hasn't really made anything half as good since Alice2

dark_surge
dark_surge

If he's asking for me to "make noise" on Facebook that's not going to happen as I don't have an account but if you're reading this McGee, which you probably are not but I'm going to say it anyways....as long as you cut all ties with EA I would buy the 3rd Alice game in a heartbeat.  Just publish it on Steam yourself.  :)

ghostXzero
ghostXzero

alice madness returns for pc was released as a buggy mess and never patched.  shoddy devs.  no thanks.

Evilnator
Evilnator

EA actually has the rights? Well crap...

But if they were to obtian the rights from them, I'd back it.

Lausanna
Lausanna

As long as EA's not involved I'd buy it for sure.

Pandajuicy
Pandajuicy

I also loved Madness Returns and would definitely support the creation of a third Alice game; that is, as long as it is truly McGee's game and EA isn't involved.

ocoisadificil1
ocoisadificil1

EA always online Alice with a tacked-on multiplayer mode to justify future DLC ? No, thanks. If it's done without EA i'll certainly support and buy it.

It's just a matter of principle for me now.

huyckb04
huyckb04

What ever happened to the plans for American McGee's Oz?  Remember when that was rumored back in 2001?


alioli
alioli

I personally thought the combat of madness returns is where the fall was.. the game was absolutly brilliant, and combat was fun for the first 2-3 hours, after that, i ONLY wanted to SEE what was next, not fight it, or puzzle...

the story and aesthetics is its only great points

Fartman7998
Fartman7998

Everybody's like, 

"Yaaaay!"

Then they're like, 

"Awww...man..."

Lordcrabfood
Lordcrabfood

I enjoed madness returns, would like the 3 rd to be darker though.

Smokescreened84
Smokescreened84

I loved the two Alice games, especially Madness Returns.  The ending left me wanting more.  If a third one can be done well and is as engaging as the previous two games, then please, a third one would be welcome.

TheJazzGiant
TheJazzGiant

would love to see a third entry in the series! but not if it's published by EA i'm afraid, cause i wont spend a dime on that corrupted company.. 

Faramir535
Faramir535

You'll have my full support on this one. A little bit more scary like fisrt one, and some Tim Burton style visuals, it'll be great.

Samus_rules
Samus_rules

Possibly. It would have to be less soul destroyingly repetitive.

MonkeySpot
MonkeySpot

ABSOLUTELY... I would definitely welcome the game. Loved the first two, I thought they were inspired, creepy, and great fun. COUNT ME IN.


Hicks233
Hicks233

As long as it had the confidence of design present in acts 1 - 4, tightened the pacing a little and wasn't as afraid to encourage the player to embrace the character and narrative (the riddles) as opposed to relying on combat or shoed in minigame sections (Radula rooms)

Would love to see a continuance of Alice's story, just as long as it avoids feature creep. :)

Would be happy to support on Kickstarter in that case.

RussianMeatClob
RussianMeatClob

I've needed MOAR Alice ever since the original back on the P.C.

qreyjhansi
qreyjhansi

@cent73 @odino Yep, American McGee and his studio have done impressive work. It's nice that his 'testing the waters' with Akaneiro Demon Hunters may have paved the way for an Alice free of EA foolishness. Excited!

qreyjhansi
qreyjhansi

@Tripwolf Did you not read the part where he hopes to take the rights from EA so we can have a better game than what you called the "mediocre" one we got as a result of EA fumbling???

Zloth2
Zloth2

@dangermouse2k This.  The artwork in Alice 2 was incredible but the game itself was... meh.  Make a different type of game with the same incredible art direction and I'll likely buy it.  Alice in Wonderland is definitely public domain so he could even stick to that story if he wants.

shnull
shnull

@ghostXzero it runs pretty well on my machine but without the physx since i dont have ndvidia BUT i agree completely because it did not before i put in the new 6970 card (which costs like more than a ps3 or xbox and also me an arm and a leg if you'll pardon my french but seeing as there's little to do in the deadzone of europe atm worth every penny)

on a sidenote, i was just gonna say if it's the same style and atmosphere or even a bit more pg18 rated (as in more gore and real silent hill type wonderland horror, not alice stripping naked i mean i say just saying horror in wonderland the original idea behind it) then i'm all up for it

qreyjhansi
qreyjhansi

@ocoisadificil1 Yep, and that's the point. McGee hopes to take back full rights from EA. Let's hope it happens!

Zloth2
Zloth2

@alioli They are some pretty huge points, though.  Buy it for cheap, set it to easy difficulty, and just watch the show.  (Preferably in stereoscopic 3D.)

cent73
cent73

@qreyjhansi "Testing the waters"... You know, that's the conclusion I came to after the Kickstarter Akaneiro campaign had finished. Even though I backed it, I don't think the game itself will benefit a lot from the extra funding or rather how its expansion will make it a better game than it's been for some time now (regardless of it's obvious shortcomings).

I don't think actually he was checking the market with Akaneiro for the next Alice. It could be a different game that he had in mind. But the huge demand for Alice's merchandize and what not, did take him by surprise.