AMD demos next-gen Phenom processor

Chipmaker's PC of the future is a 3GHz Phenom system with three GPUs.

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Look upon its works, ye mighty, and despair.

Semiconductor manufacturer AMD today demonstrated its upcoming Phenom processor at its 2007 Technology Analyst Day. At the event, Rick Bergman, senior vice president and general manager of the graphics product group, showcased a 3GHz Phenom FX system running three Radeon HD 2900 XT GPUs on the RD790 chipset.

Phenom will be the first consumer processor line based on AMD's new K10 microarchitecture technology, and will replace the long-lived Athlon as AMD's high-performance processor brand. AMD will keep the Athlon brand for its mainstream processor lineup, but Phenom will become the choice for gamers.

Current AMD desktop platforms can only support up to two video cards in CrossFire configuration, but the upcoming RD790 chipset will be able to support up to four cards in CrossFire as demonstrated by Bergman's three-GPU Phenom FX system.

AMD expects to ship the first Phenom processors in the second half of the year. Phenom processors will use the same X2 and X4 suffixes used in the Athlon line to differentiate between dual- and quad-core processor variants, and the flagship FX moniker will move over to the top-performing Phenom processor.

AMD hasn't announced pricing yet, but representatives have indicated that the Phenom will be an exceptional price/performance processor, which likely means that prices will be affordable. The Phenom FX will almost certainly be less expensive than past Athlon FX processors that typically debuted at $1,000. According to Ian McNaughton, product manager for the FX processor line, "the days of the $1,000 processor are over."

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Ibanez423
Ibanez423

The compatibility with the AM2 socket is awesome since I don't have to get a new motherboard.

jediclone66
jediclone66

2 nvidia ultras and a qx6700 is the best combo

unreal_ll417
unreal_ll417

Who need 3 video card in there computer what is the point. The one 7950 is good for gaming for now

neonblueshadow
neonblueshadow

anamnawshad This is Madness!!!! nooooo... This Is....I dunno actually. it all comes down to money, if you have it spend it on whatever you like , we're all gonna die anyway

dtfann003
dtfann003

The guys over at DailyTech have gotten hold of some rather juicy tidbits about AMD's plans in the processor market over the next year and a half. Perhaps the most interesting is that AMD intends to follow in Intel's footsteps and retire both its flagship brand and its model numbering scheme. Processors based on AMD's next-generation architecture will be branded "Phenom X2" for dual-core chips, "Phenom X4" for quad-core models, and "Phenom FX" for top-of-the-line offerings, DailyTech says. AMD's purported marketing slogan for these new chips? "Experience the Phenomenal." Yeah. AMD reportedly intends to keep using the Athlon and Sempron brand names for mainstream and budget chips, though. The new Phenom brand will be accompanied by a new model numbering scheme that will do away with the current performance rating "plus" numbers. According to DailyTech, a next-gen "Sparta" chip clocked at 2.3GHz with a 45W power envelope will be dubbed LE-1300, for instance, while a 2.3GHz chip based on the existing "Brisbane" core with the same 45W power rating will bear a BE-2400 moniker. Last, but not least, DailyTech has scored some information regarding AMD's 45nm plans. In the second half of next year, the chip maker intends to introduce its first 45nm desktop quad-core processors. The chips will be dubbed "Deneb" and "Deneb FX," and they'll supposedly introduce a new AM3 socket. Deneb FX will include support for DDR3 memory, as well. Mid-range 45nm chips are set to follow some time "closer to 2009." DDR 2 just came out??? This is why PC gaming is going to die. Something new is all ways coming out. The new windows can only support 2x cores. most games only use one core. This is why I buy game systems. I would fight with a fanboy over a game system, thin keep up with computer parts.

kingeric420
kingeric420

Just remember, DX10 is very new. You are going to pay a lot of money if you invest right now. Wait a little longer and the price will drop. Take the PS3 for example. Nobody wanted to spend $ 600 for a console and now they are begging for sales.

kingeric420
kingeric420

Bgrngod I have had the same PC rig for about a year and half now and plan on upgrading soon. Reading articles like this make me laugh every time I remember someone trying to argue that PC gaming is cheaper then console gaming. Riiight.. that's why I've spent easily twice as much on my PC hardware as I have on my consoles. Posted Jul 27, 2007 1:38 pm PT A year and a half and you have to upgrade. It's a vicious cycle! AMD and Intel can eat caca. I'm not going to waste another dime on their overpriced hardware.

chrisdojo
chrisdojo

AMD needs to do something better than this if they want to trump intel.

rokkuman09
rokkuman09

Very cool, but the 2900XT sucks a lot of power, and 2 8800GTXs would be faster than 3 2900s..

MrSickVisionz
MrSickVisionz

I wanna see specs. I don't do gaming, but I make music on the computers. Running a couple of high end reverb plugins, 32+ tracks at 24-bit/192kHZ, and some additivies synths will completely shut down all but the best computers. I'm interested in seeing what this can handle.

dr_jashugan
dr_jashugan

I hope AMD can play it right, so that it can gain a foothold in the CPU market dominated by Intel. 8)

Rickiej
Rickiej

runstalker i totally agree ^^

runstalker
runstalker

I'd rather have x2 768 MB 8800 GTXs making sweet SLI love than a x4 2900 XT orgy. Imagine the heat/power issues with four bloody 2900s.

dtfann003
dtfann003

@thor107. I hear you. For SLI, you need to spend some cash. I'm not going to spend over $600 on 1,2,3,or 4 video cards. Why??? in just a few days some one will come out with something faster, and what I payed for my card will drop in cash in to time. So spend $600 now, or next week pay $99.

VfighterX
VfighterX

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Bgrngod
Bgrngod

I have had the same PC rig for about a year and half now and plan on upgrading soon. Reading articles like this make me laugh every time I remember someone trying to argue that PC gaming is cheaper then console gaming. Riiight.. that's why I've spent easily twice as much on my PC hardware as I have on my consoles.

finch9600
finch9600

Hopefully it doesn't flop and get roasted by Penryn. Actually we'll be lucky if its on par with intel's core 2 series :). BTW who the F*** would buy a mobo with 4 pci-e slots for gpu's. let alone 2900's which consume the most power of all and have a terrrrible power/performance ratio. what a f***ing gimmick. AMD/ATI has lost all faith in me. at least intel doesn't own nvidia or us gamers would have a major problem on our hands. who would honestly spend $1500 on just gpu's probably 300 for the state of the art mobo and 300 bucks on a 1500W psu. HONESTLY. i don't like the way AMD is "innovating".

starbead
starbead

I still say that most here are missing the point. It isn't that many WILL go the 4 card route, but that it is possible. It is a gimmick to highlight the power of the Phenom AND to call more attention to the ATI 2900 cards. AMD owns ATI. Highlighting their processor in a way that advertises their top-end video card is just good business.

UnknOwN58
UnknOwN58

4 2900XT's sounds crazy, how much power would that take?!

captalchol
captalchol

AMDs goal should be less power more performance not slapping on 3 gpus for a 30% performance increase over 1 spending 3x as much up front then a boatload running your 1.5kW power supply 24 hours a day. The sad part is they don't include any benchmarks and intel has penrynn around the corner. AMD is screwed I'm not excited over this news I'm dissapointed

Whermacht02
Whermacht02

I only wish I had the money to build a rig with one of these CPU's

smghottie
smghottie

Can't wait to build my next rig

thor107
thor107

I'm a fan of more video crunching hardware just like the next man but this is stupid. I hated the SLI setup for the fact that I had to but 2 $300 Geforce 6800's to play the game the way it was "meant" to be played. Then Nvidia a little more then a year later comes out with the 7800 which wipes the floor with my SLI setup. What I am getting at is make a single kick ass video card I'm through with spending $600 a year to stay up with the times and I'll be damned if I'm gonna spend money on a 3 card setup and spend $900 a year. This is the exact reason why PC gaming will never take over and consoles will continue to thrive, we'll all not rich like the rest of you PC fanboys!

zaheer2020
zaheer2020

Long live AMD, Good strategy...Let the WAR BEGIN ON CPU...

dtfann003
dtfann003

So you can run 4 ATI cards... What about 4 nvidia cards??? The only ATI card thats any good is the one in side the 360.

Jebril
Jebril

Do we really need a 1000 dollar processor? Yes......

WARxSnake
WARxSnake

intel's been sitting on their butts waiting for AMD to relase their chip while intel's had the Penryns ready and fabbed for a while now, perfecting it every day AMD hesitated to release their phenom. so once intel releases their 45mm penryns, these chips will suck hard.

smashhero
smashhero

I agree, bobekk. This is not making better CPU ! They're just adding more Graphic Card slots. Give me a Graphic Card that runs 4x as fast, Than we'll talk !!

akabaloo
akabaloo

The real advancement will come when you are able to run one of these things in a laptop, on a battery, for 6 hours at a time on maximum settings. Until then, we really haven't gotten anywhere, increasing power while decreasing efficiency. That will be the day when I can run one of these on a 200 w Power supply lol

barrett_rob
barrett_rob

Most likely us brits will get screwed as normal.

RonHack
RonHack

"According to Ian McNaughton, product manager for the FX processor line, "the days of the $1,000 processor are over." " I'm going to hold you to that, AMD. I've been a fan of your products since my first IBM PC, with an AMD 386DX/40. Don't let me down, hear?

sancezz
sancezz

Insane...So you will have 4 GPUs running in a system if you have a graphics card on top of this..? Wow....

Wakasenshi
Wakasenshi

I'm still happy with my AMD64 FX60. But this is great news. spending £600 on a processor sucks...

monty_4256
monty_4256

bobekk I know what you mean, but sadly the way things are happening, are easier for the GFX card companies and make them more money since they keep prices up and get multiple sales per person. and there is nothing anyone can do about it... I really don't see why they couldn't have a multi-core Gfx processor....

bobekk
bobekk

madness...this is not real PC evolution....we should see GFX cards that will have triple much performance instead of adding another 3 cards...damn 1500W psu will be for sure If pc parts makers will not change they way of thinking we will see soon new motherboards with 4 CPU rooms and 16 PCIEx16 slots SROL

Atomic_Mutant
Atomic_Mutant

I wonder if the graphics cards cores could be selectively run according to applications under load? For example, out of four cards, two could be used for games while others can serve as a physics processor, or even running @Home, given that that configuration fulfills the performance criteria. And I think you will be able to mix and match different cards from ATI lineup, although how that would translate to real world performance no one really knows. I hear that AMD is having some trouble delivering on the current process unfortunately, so the second half of 2007 release date seems a bit of a misplaced optimism. CrossFire is an interesting alternative to SLI but both technologies seem to be in need of a more complete driver to fully unleash the potential.

Mithrandir0x
Mithrandir0x

Well, until it isn't showed some real tests of the processor with the 4 cards and an enormous nuclear PSU attached to the computer, I think there will be too much speculation -.-

monco59
monco59

-According to Ian McNaughton, product manager for the FX processor line, "the days of the $1,000 processor are over."- Well it's about time!

Reetesh
Reetesh

Four cards each which is already having a Dual Core in it (like 7950 GT) that would be like 8 cards at a time!! Does ATI have a card like that which is one card but two cores? then it would be awesome!

smashhero
smashhero

Oh yeah your right, nuttysack. There isn't a Power Supply out there that gives enough power for 4 Graphic cards. So AMD's new CPU is pretty pointless IMO. *Not to mention how much your Electric Bill would cost. O_O

smashhero
smashhero

BTW, subrosian. Intel recently lowered their Quad-core pricing. Now a Q6600 will only cost you $289.99 from tigerdirect.com. Affordable enough for most people already, and AMD has yet to release a Quad-core.

smashhero
smashhero

When will they learn? Two Graphic card in SLI mode does not make sense in engineering. Using two graphic card to render a single game does not give you better performance, it would only causes many problems. Using 4 GPU doesn't solve the problem. *Not to mention the cost for 4 x 8800 graphic card.

Poshkidney
Poshkidney

what a processor that powerful inpossible put i do like amd

lucky326
lucky326

4 cards???? Think of the pretty graphics :). Certainly wouldnt mind having 4 2900's in Crossfire.