Activision Says Bungie's Destiny on PC Is a "Natural Fit"

But Activision Publishing CEO Eric Hirshberg also admits that "developing on PC is a different animal."

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Bungie's upcoming shooter Destiny launches September 9 across Xbox 360, Xbox One, PlayStation 3, and PlayStation 4, but it sounds like another platform--PC--could be added in the future. Speaking with Polygon, Activision Publishing CEO Eric Hirshberg acknowledged that Destiny sets up very well for PC, and even admitted that the publisher is having significant discussions about bringing the game to computer.

"It is [a good fit], and it's something we're talking about and looking at very carefully, and obviously it makes a lot of sense with the genre and the type of game it is," Hirshberg said. "No announcements, but it's something that's a heavy point of discussion."

Destiny is already confirmed for four platforms, and Hirshberg suggested adding another to that list would only create more complexity for the team at Bungie.

"You know, developing on PC is a different animal than developing for consoles and so we just want to make sure that we're putting one foot in front of the other and getting it right, and that it's of the highest possible quality," he said. "But obviously I see the same things about the natural fit."

Hirshberg's comments match up with much of what Bungie developers said in April about bringing the game to PC. At the time, Bungie COO Pete Parsons teased, "I look forward to our future conversations around PC. We love the PC. We hear it too. We ask the question ourselves."

Activision believes Destiny could become the company's next billion-dollar franchise. For more on the game, check out our coverage of Destiny this week from E3, including hands-on time with the game's much-anticipated competitive multiplayer mode.

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Discussion

327 comments
Gwarpup
Gwarpup

PC Is a different Animal.  It's a Keyboard/Mouse system and Consoles are Gamepad.  Throw gamers of both worlds into the SAME world and you have a fiasco of Unbalance.  The PC players would rise to the top everytime using Keyboard and Mouse in an FPS environment.  Since Destiny shares the same world they can't separate the PC gamers.  This is why you never see a FPS that shares it's environment between the two types of players.  

femshep_com
femshep_com

I see this all the time in gaming. "We'd love to do X, but we need to talk about it, run it up the flag pole, make sure it's great quality, blah, blah, blah." I'm sure they don't want to make a lousy game, no one does, but it's more about cost and benefit. There's nothing shameful about admitting it. You don't want to put a game on PC because you don't believe the benefit will outweigh the cost. Fine. I have no problem w/ the truth. I do have a problem w/ corps and companies and even devs trying very hard to seem like they are not alienating potential customers while alienating potential customers. I understand the jury is still out on Destiny for PC and that's fine. I'd just prefer them be blunt about why it may not happen.

pignugget
pignugget

All games, all platforms. America. F*** Yeah.

mauroaugusto
mauroaugusto

Everything fits on the PC, except for the cowards and the popularity greedy devs. Those that you find a lot on consoles.

zenstrata
zenstrata

If it comes out for pc, i'll get it.  If it does not, then I won't.

tonywilks
tonywilks

The ONLY reason they aren't gonna do it for PC yet, is so that people playing on consoles don't get immediately owned by all the PC users. As the game is persistent world (MMO) style, it will be a cross platform game and the people on PC are gonna murder all the console guys. Why has no one called them out on this?

DirkXXVI
DirkXXVI

I get what he's saying and to be honest its not too crazy.  Anyone thats dealt with numerous AAA games on launch day and a week or two later when the drivers get released essentially fixing a lot of performance issues can certainly understand that developing for the PC is not as easy as some of us make it out to be.  Though to be fair its not nearly as difficult as some developers will have you believe.  


Could have been worse though.  Remember last year when EA was all "oh well most PC's can't handle the Ignite engine' (which is kind of like saying most consoles can't handle the Ignite engine because you're including everything from NES to PS3)?  Then recently when revealing the recommended specs for FIFA 15 featuring the Ignite Engine, repeat recommended not minimum, to be a GTX 460 or a Radeon HD 6870. The way they smugly put it last year you would have thought you would need at least a Titan or an R9-290X just to get 30 FPS.

mxgod
mxgod

so the big thing is that their newest game engine can do global illuminations and real-time dynamic lighting to occur together.. they should have just went udk or cryengine and devs need to start sharing more assets. All games start on PC and should all be on PCs... I don't understand this bringing the game to PC nonsense. 

RyuRanVII
RyuRanVII

Don't care. Just give me my Unreal Tournament 2015.

phasewhich
phasewhich

*sigh* just make good port and Modable, The Moders will do the rest. Cheers!!!

MrTekku
MrTekku

A good decision I think. FPS games are different on consoles and PC after all. More controller options on PC and a higher pace and accuracy. These things need to be considered when balancing the difficulty and character movement. It's only fair for the PC gamers.

Damnation_6
Damnation_6

I do wonder how hard it would be to port a game that has been made for PS4 and Xbox One as those systems are x86-64 which is as far as I understand it PC architecture. Thing is originally Halo 1 was the last project that was originally based for PC and MAC but switched to console. Bungie haven't made a thing for PC since then and the PC version of Halo 2 was done by a small team at Microsoft Studio's. I wonder how good a job they would do with a PC port...but then that also depends how the set up their in house engine.

3dmatrixgamer
3dmatrixgamer

says the crappy CoD developer and publisher. 

vincelongman
vincelongman

When they eventually port it over to PC, they better add a field of view slider

I was getting motion sick because of the small FoV when I was watching gaming play from the PS4 alpha

r-e-a-v-e
r-e-a-v-e

They can afford a high end computer and graphics card that are more expensive than a console but can't afford a console? what logic is this.

mike300zxt
mike300zxt

I hate to wait, but this is the kind of game worth waiting for on PC.

headbanger1186
headbanger1186

Just stop teasing our dicks Activision and just let Bungie jump on the PC version after it releases in Sept. We'd love to see it on Steam.

codac
codac

If you're honestly that concerned about pirating(trust me, that's the main point of discussion), and when and how to release it, well.....you do have Blizzards Battle.net, which despite everyone's moaning and growing has proved that you can not only prevent piracy but sale....what is it.....14million copies on the PC platform. If you're THAT concerned, even if they decide to go the console route for their purchase instead.....it doesn't really matter(even though you'll need to sale 3 console versions to equate to one PC unit).

Damnation_6
Damnation_6

Will probably be playing it on the PS3 and switching to PC when that version comes. I probably won't be buying a PS4 till the "light" version hits on account of hardware tweaks, price and energy consumption. Thus far I have not seen enough reason to buy a PS4. Most of the exclusives thus far have been fine but that ain't good enough.

pelvist
pelvist

Played some of the beta for this on my nephews PS4 and man it is a boring game. I know its early days but I really cant see it changing much before release.

neo_gaming
neo_gaming

Developing on PC is another animal? , that’s stupid because all games are created on a PC and they are ported to consoles, so the game is already created for PC.  

Kinguard73
Kinguard73

Hmm even though consoles have never been just like PC as they are now. Sure Bungie whatever you say....

But yeah it's a natural fit. If it's online only you can catch hackers and throw out their accounts and ban them from the game.

Sure GTAV have console hacks but if it's that easy for consoles could you imagine the chaos of PC? Separate the console players from the thieving PC community Bungie. We just don't need the headache.

the_darkne55
the_darkne55

@Gwarpup

Uhm...so what if - for example - PC users were forced to play the game using a controller ?

Wouldn't that make things equal ?


Your argument doesn't make sense.


>> This is why you never see a FPS that shares it's environment between the two types of players.  

Also, is this a Fact or just something you believe ? There's a difference.

Double-Ego
Double-Ego

@tonywilks Not true at all, playstation will have it's own servers, xbox will have it's own servers and so will the PC on it's eventual release.


You might be confused with cross gen.


It is cross gen but not cross platform, no idea where you have gotten that from but it is simply incorrect.

k2g6y7
k2g6y7

@r-e-a-v-e Consoles are shitty pcs, if you already own a great pc why would you want a shitty console? Consoles always were a rip, always will be, and I will not support them,...ever. Maybe when they're old and dead and games are cheap I'll buy a used one if I want to play an exclusive title, but probably not.

chaka_
chaka_

@r-e-a-v-e its not about  what they can afford.... it just doesn't make sense to buy two devices that play the same games. If i had a high end pc i wouldn't buy a next gen console if i didn't like any of the exclusives.

AustinH147
AustinH147

@mike300zxt I personally think it's worth getting on PS4. I'm even thinking of getting the white console that comes with the game.

flashn00b
flashn00b

@headbanger1186 I have to wonder if it'd be more productive to ask Valve about paying for the port. Because SteamOS is a thing, i imagine that they'll have to make money investments on games that aren't on PC in order to get the average joe to buy a Steam Machine.

sirchick
sirchick

@codac there is pirating on consoles too only a matter of time for it to occur on the next gen consoles too. The reason they sell badly on PC is the PC expect top end graphics and effort put into the games, often console games ported to PC are so dull it amazes me how the console world enjoy it.

Titanfall is a good example. Huge buzz in the console world. the PC world were more like "meh".

nikon133
nikon133

@neo_gaming One word: optimization. With console, you know exactly what power you have, you can play scenarios and tune game to each in order to keep frame rate. Lots of thing happening on screen, tune down some background effects, lightning, reduce shadows quality... not much happening on screen, boost everything to the max.

But how do you optimize for PC? Gaming PCs are covering range of performance levels, some people still game on Core 2 with 6850 or even slower graphics, some have latest i7 with top-shelve graphics. A lot of different scenarios that developers have to run through and optimize game, a lot of options in terms of resolution and IQ they have to include in the game.

Maybe designing the game is mostly the same, but polishing it is completely different world of pain.

Jkouw
Jkouw

Just because it's made using a PC doesn't mean the software they use I.E. Development kits and game engines, support it. If your logic was sound it would mean there could be no such thing as a bad PC port

VooDooPC
VooDooPC

@neo_gaming It might exist for the PC because it's developed on the PC, but that doesn't mean they can just release what they have. There's an infinite number of PC configurations and to get as many sales as possible they have to get it running on everything from Grandma's Bejeweled laptop to the guy that has four GTX Titans in SLI. This is why it's a different animal.

Kinguard73
Kinguard73

@HardCore_PC_Gmr  LOL so far all I heard is how mediocre the game is not to mention PC can't even play the game at 400 dollars so your POS rig is just outdated ATX trash cans. So sure, those clinging to your thieving gaming rigs. Please play it. Not like you are going to have to pay for it..oh wait... it's online only I 'think' I guess you will have to buy it. There's that at least.


Damnation_6
Damnation_6

@sirchick Titanfall was fun for 15-20 hours or so but then got really boring for me.

Anyway...if Activision would actually give more love to a PC version they would sell more. I bet COD Black Ops (2) which obviously had more work put in it then the PC ports of COD:MW3 and Ghosts that the former sold better on PC then than latter.

If you provide service and take a community seriously you will in fact do better and get pirated less.

the_darkne55
the_darkne55

@nikon133 Yup, you're dead right, i think.

They probably dont want to say it this clearly, but this is what they mean : 


Just like the "Apple Experience" its all about "It Just Works" and "It Looks Beautiful" and "Its Slick".

So, because you cannot make that a common experience on PC, and many people would complain because of trying to run it on bad PC setups, they probably just want to avoid PC so so that only good things are said.


And at the Price Point of console games, they can do without the PC sales since console buyers will gladly throw "too much" money at something like this.


Its lousy PC Customer Alienation, but its great Business Sense at the end of the day, unfortunately.

alvalentyn
alvalentyn

@flashn00b @neo_gaming It would make it even easier, since it has the same x86-x64 hardware as all consoles, linux, and windows machines, while using OpenGL for graphics, which is used on OSX, Linux, Windows, and the PS4. The odd one out is the Xbox that only supports Direct X.

Jkouw
Jkouw

Couple things:

1) if an Xbox 360 can run it a $400 gaming PC should as well, if it can't then that's poor optimization from the developer.

2) Piracy happens on consoles as well, while not nearly to the extent of PC, but used game sales is basically legal piracy since developers are screwed over in both situations.

eman123
eman123

@Kinguard73 @HardCore_PC_Gmr Just finished my alpha play through.....Not mediocre. Pretty damn good. Not great. Not God's gift to humanity... or say  the "Bees Knees" But pretty damn good.

the_darkne55
the_darkne55

@Jkouw Its not that simple - and what you said is a over simplification of the situation.

(talking about range of PC hardware)

A $400 gaming PC could have a $50 video card or a $100 video card.

It could have 2Gb of RAM, it could have 8Gb of RAM

Its could have a medium CPU, Fast RAM, Medium video card.

It could have a Fast CPU, Medium RAM and Fast Video card.

etc.


Its about fragmentation - like the Apple vs Android scene - not about "The Developer doing a bad job of optimizing."