Activision Says Bungie's Destiny on PC Is a "Natural Fit"

But Activision Publishing CEO Eric Hirshberg also admits that "developing on PC is a different animal."

Bungie's upcoming shooter Destiny launches September 9 across Xbox 360, Xbox One, PlayStation 3, and PlayStation 4, but it sounds like another platform--PC--could be added in the future. Speaking with Polygon, Activision Publishing CEO Eric Hirshberg acknowledged that Destiny sets up very well for PC, and even admitted that the publisher is having significant discussions about bringing the game to computer.

"It is [a good fit], and it's something we're talking about and looking at very carefully, and obviously it makes a lot of sense with the genre and the type of game it is," Hirshberg said. "No announcements, but it's something that's a heavy point of discussion."

Destiny is already confirmed for four platforms, and Hirshberg suggested adding another to that list would only create more complexity for the team at Bungie.

"You know, developing on PC is a different animal than developing for consoles and so we just want to make sure that we're putting one foot in front of the other and getting it right, and that it's of the highest possible quality," he said. "But obviously I see the same things about the natural fit."

Hirshberg's comments match up with much of what Bungie developers said in April about bringing the game to PC. At the time, Bungie COO Pete Parsons teased, "I look forward to our future conversations around PC. We love the PC. We hear it too. We ask the question ourselves."

Activision believes Destiny could become the company's next billion-dollar franchise. For more on the game, check out our coverage of Destiny this week from E3, including hands-on time with the game's much-anticipated competitive multiplayer mode.

See more coverage of E3 2014 →

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Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and would like to see the Whalers return to Hartford.

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solidrubrical
solidrubrical

He talked a lot about skill gap. hope they make sure it feels like an mmo. It's all about grinding and finding that sweet loot! :D

shustudent
shustudent

playing a FPS on a console is retarded...a controller??? lol mouse  and keyboard destroys even the best console player...

fgjnfgh
fgjnfgh

great, we can have it on vita and 3ds next

dioangel
dioangel

This just tells me that Bungie is a sub par gaming developer, why would I play their games?

Gwarpup
Gwarpup

PC Is a different Animal.  It's a Keyboard/Mouse system and Consoles are Gamepad.  Throw gamers of both worlds into the SAME world and you have a fiasco of Unbalance.  The PC players would rise to the top everytime using Keyboard and Mouse in an FPS environment.  Since Destiny shares the same world they can't separate the PC gamers.  This is why you never see a FPS that shares it's environment between the two types of players.  

femshep_com
femshep_com

I see this all the time in gaming. "We'd love to do X, but we need to talk about it, run it up the flag pole, make sure it's great quality, blah, blah, blah." I'm sure they don't want to make a lousy game, no one does, but it's more about cost and benefit. There's nothing shameful about admitting it. You don't want to put a game on PC because you don't believe the benefit will outweigh the cost. Fine. I have no problem w/ the truth. I do have a problem w/ corps and companies and even devs trying very hard to seem like they are not alienating potential customers while alienating potential customers. I understand the jury is still out on Destiny for PC and that's fine. I'd just prefer them be blunt about why it may not happen.

pignugget
pignugget

All games, all platforms. America. F*** Yeah.

mauroaugusto
mauroaugusto

Everything fits on the PC, except for the cowards and the popularity greedy devs. Those that you find a lot on consoles.

zenstrata
zenstrata

If it comes out for pc, i'll get it.  If it does not, then I won't.

tonywilks
tonywilks

The ONLY reason they aren't gonna do it for PC yet, is so that people playing on consoles don't get immediately owned by all the PC users. As the game is persistent world (MMO) style, it will be a cross platform game and the people on PC are gonna murder all the console guys. Why has no one called them out on this?

DirkXXVI
DirkXXVI

I get what he's saying and to be honest its not too crazy.  Anyone thats dealt with numerous AAA games on launch day and a week or two later when the drivers get released essentially fixing a lot of performance issues can certainly understand that developing for the PC is not as easy as some of us make it out to be.  Though to be fair its not nearly as difficult as some developers will have you believe.  


Could have been worse though.  Remember last year when EA was all "oh well most PC's can't handle the Ignite engine' (which is kind of like saying most consoles can't handle the Ignite engine because you're including everything from NES to PS3)?  Then recently when revealing the recommended specs for FIFA 15 featuring the Ignite Engine, repeat recommended not minimum, to be a GTX 460 or a Radeon HD 6870. The way they smugly put it last year you would have thought you would need at least a Titan or an R9-290X just to get 30 FPS.

mxgod
mxgod

so the big thing is that their newest game engine can do global illuminations and real-time dynamic lighting to occur together.. they should have just went udk or cryengine and devs need to start sharing more assets. All games start on PC and should all be on PCs... I don't understand this bringing the game to PC nonsense. 

RyuRanVII
RyuRanVII

Don't care. Just give me my Unreal Tournament 2015.

phasewhich
phasewhich

*sigh* just make good port and Modable, The Moders will do the rest. Cheers!!!

MrTekku
MrTekku

A good decision I think. FPS games are different on consoles and PC after all. More controller options on PC and a higher pace and accuracy. These things need to be considered when balancing the difficulty and character movement. It's only fair for the PC gamers.

Damnation_6
Damnation_6

I do wonder how hard it would be to port a game that has been made for PS4 and Xbox One as those systems are x86-64 which is as far as I understand it PC architecture. Thing is originally Halo 1 was the last project that was originally based for PC and MAC but switched to console. Bungie haven't made a thing for PC since then and the PC version of Halo 2 was done by a small team at Microsoft Studio's. I wonder how good a job they would do with a PC port...but then that also depends how the set up their in house engine.

3dmatrixgamer
3dmatrixgamer

says the crappy CoD developer and publisher. 

vincelongman
vincelongman

When they eventually port it over to PC, they better add a field of view slider

I was getting motion sick because of the small FoV when I was watching gaming play from the PS4 alpha

r-e-a-v-e
r-e-a-v-e

They can afford a high end computer and graphics card that are more expensive than a console but can't afford a console? what logic is this.

mike300zxt
mike300zxt

I hate to wait, but this is the kind of game worth waiting for on PC.

headbanger1186
headbanger1186

Just stop teasing our dicks Activision and just let Bungie jump on the PC version after it releases in Sept. We'd love to see it on Steam.

striderpsv
striderpsv

@fgjnfgh lol it can be already played on the vita via remoteplay. Contrary to popular belief, you can connect via wifi and not be in your home to do this. 

merrickx
merrickx

@Gwarpup


It's not JUST a Keyboard/Mouse system. Almost any game that CAN accommodate a controller well, will very likely have perfect controller support, save for maybe some menu navigation in some cases. Right about everything though.

brockelley
brockelley

@Gwarpup I play PC, and I use my xbox one gamepad almost in every game. 


If it's easier to use a keyboard it's because the game was developed badly, in my opinion. 

the_darkne55
the_darkne55

@Gwarpup

Uhm...so what if - for example - PC users were forced to play the game using a controller ?

Wouldn't that make things equal ?


Your argument doesn't make sense.


>> This is why you never see a FPS that shares it's environment between the two types of players.  

Also, is this a Fact or just something you believe ? There's a difference.

Double-Ego
Double-Ego

@tonywilks Not true at all, playstation will have it's own servers, xbox will have it's own servers and so will the PC on it's eventual release.


You might be confused with cross gen.


It is cross gen but not cross platform, no idea where you have gotten that from but it is simply incorrect.

brockelley
brockelley

@MrTekku true. though in the end, like most PC ports.. it'll probably play horribly until modders get ahold of it..


The reason behind this is money, pure and simple. they get more money from console gamers for a game than pc gamers. R* did the same thing with gta 5

k2g6y7
k2g6y7

@r-e-a-v-e Consoles are shitty pcs, if you already own a great pc why would you want a shitty console? Consoles always were a rip, always will be, and I will not support them,...ever. Maybe when they're old and dead and games are cheap I'll buy a used one if I want to play an exclusive title, but probably not.

chaka_
chaka_

@r-e-a-v-e its not about  what they can afford.... it just doesn't make sense to buy two devices that play the same games. If i had a high end pc i wouldn't buy a next gen console if i didn't like any of the exclusives.

AustinH147
AustinH147

@mike300zxt I personally think it's worth getting on PS4. I'm even thinking of getting the white console that comes with the game.

flashn00b
flashn00b

@headbanger1186 I have to wonder if it'd be more productive to ask Valve about paying for the port. Because SteamOS is a thing, i imagine that they'll have to make money investments on games that aren't on PC in order to get the average joe to buy a Steam Machine.

merrickx
merrickx

@the_darkne55 @Gwarpup "Also, is this a Fact or just something you believe ? There's a difference."


Actually, there's a lot of fact to that. It was tried a few times, in a few ways, in the past and the idea was scrapped altogether because the different input methods were just too imbalanced. It was practically impossible for anyone with a controller to compete with anyone on m+kb. You'd have to implement insane amounts of aim assistance and/or automatic aiming just to balance it out somewhat. 


"Problems quickly arose in testing, however, when Microsoft found that even the best console gamers simply couldn’t compete with the accuracy a mouse and keyboard afforded a PC player. “The console players got destroyed every time”, Sood says. “So much so that it would be embarrassing to the XBOX team in general had Microsoft launched this initiative.”


Also, restricting players to a less comfortable, more clunky input device would be received with a massive amount of negativity.

shustudent
shustudent

@spaningker @brockelley @Gwarpup exactly, playing a game like a FPS on a controller is horrible, what about a RPG? inventory management? lol have fun with a controller selecting items, a mouse is always going to trump that ridiculously lame and slow ass joystick, I can look and turn around with my mouse WAY quicker than with the joystick, if you are playing with a controller on a PC then you are 1) playing racing. sports, fighting games 2) doing it wrong if you're playing a FPS, RPG, City Building/Tower Defense, RTS, or anything that requires accuracy..

brockelley
brockelley

@spaningker @brockelley @Gwarpup I just prefer the X1 gamepad for it's super small dead zones..Well, that and the last 10 years of my life have been spent using the same controller design, so I'm used to it.

brockelley
brockelley

@spaningker @brockelley @Gwarpup fx 8350 at 4.4 GHz, noctua nh-d14, zotac amp! edition gtx 780 OCed, 8gb 1600MHz generic RAM... I guess it's kind of a high end rig.. not really, but it'll run any game out at 1080p 60fps ultra.

the_darkne55
the_darkne55

>> Also, restricting players to a less comfortable, more clunky input device would be received with a massive amount of negativity.

@merrickx Yeah, that's unfortunately true.


Then maybe they should consider the alternative : 

Let console players use a Keyboard + Mouse


If they do that, then that'll put both platforms on equal ground, right ?

merrickx
merrickx

@spaningker @the_darkne55 @Gwarpup Well sometimes they will, at least some of them. Even still though, you're right; forcing and/or restricting people to use something that, asa precision input device, is uncomfortable and much more limited than the more oft preferred m+kb would received with an immense amount of negative uproar.

brockelley
brockelley

@merrickx @brockelley @spaningker @Gwarpup I just don't wanna seem like an elitist D-bag..


I sold my day one Xbox One and picked up the Amp! edition for $480 with amazon warehouse deals.. it was actually a steal then.. don't know what it's priced at now.


All in all, you can save close to $200 and retain all your warranties if you go with Amazon Warehouse deals.. just only buy "like new" products that have never been used.