530,000 PS3s sold in November, half of 360 sales Kinect bundles

Wedbush's Michael Pachter reports that sales of Sony's console were below expectations; Microsoft's motion-sensing camera outselling PlayStation Move 5-to-1.

by

Following NPD's report of US November sales yesterday, both Nintendo and Microsoft announced sales figures for their respective game machines. The DS was the best-selling platform for the month with 1.5 million units, followed by the Xbox 360 with 1.37 million units, and the Wii with 1.2 million units.

PlayStation Move bundles accounted for one-third of PS3 sales in November.

The only company not to explicitly report sales figures was Sony, which did release a statement last night saying that sales of its PlayStation 3 console had increased 112 percent month-over-month from October. Seeing how the console sold 250,000 units during that month, the PlayStation 3 sold 530,000 units during November.

The 530,000 figure was backed up by Wedbush analyst Michael Pachter, who had predicted the $300 console would sell 650,000 units during the month. He blamed the shortfall partially on "modest" sales of the PlayStation Move controller, which was in its third month on the market in November. As of November 30, some 4.1 million Move controllers had shipped worldwide.

Pachter also noted that one-third of PS3 sales were $400 PlayStation Move bundles, versus one-half of all Xbox 360 purchases being Kinect bundles. (There are two Kinect bundles, a $300 4GB model and $400 250GB model.) "Xbox 360 Kinect console bundles outsold PS3 Move console bundles by more than 5 to 1," said the analyst.

Pachter said that November was a "strong" first month for Microsoft's controller-less peripheral, which the company is predicting will sell 5 million units by year's end. In its first 25 days on the market, Kinect sold 2.5 million units worldwide.

Discussion

500 comments
flyingdutchdog
flyingdutchdog

@ryzrocks the other side of the coin being "good things" don't always come to those who wait. And btw, I am also a PS3 owner. The coming year may seem "great" to you, but as for me, I really don't see it. have a good day

MotoBomberXX17
MotoBomberXX17

I agree Wormkid_64 who really gives a crap which console is better, personally I like all of them, I own a Wii and a 360 now and plan on getting a PS3 next year.

Wormkid_64
Wormkid_64

Place your ear to the ground.Hear that distant rumble? It's the sound of PS3 and 360 fanboys charging in for the battle.... So glad I don't get involved in this crud.Just buy the darn stuff you like and let the fanboys rant and rave like animals while you play your games,whether it's Wii,Xbox360,or PS3.

frazzle00
frazzle00

[This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]

fullmetalhollow
fullmetalhollow

@frazzle dude you just wrote a book, why do you care so much? Just enjoy your preferred system and games.

madSomnambulist
madSomnambulist

@ shakenparco Lack of massive public ad blasting is semi-normal for Sony. I mean, yes they have campaigns, but nothing like Microsoft pushes. For the most part they're content to let their hardware sit around on shelves and gain steam over time as more and more people are able to justify a purchase. As (globally) they've nearly caught the 360 in total sales despite a year handicap, I figure they don't feel a need to push people. It's better to have X million happy players who bought something to enjoy at time-of with an open mind over the course of 5 years than to have the same X million grumpy they fell for an impulse buy and then mostly leave it on the shelf for the same 5 years. The Wii somehow magically found the gap in the middle of those, which is the cause of the endless mass appeal.

shakensparco
shakensparco

I feel like non gamers don't really know about the Move. It may just be me, but I've barely seen any ads for it.

GamerYnoX
GamerYnoX

@TheTwilightGMR 1- You're looking at november US sales and that does not mirror worldwide sales. http://www.lazygamer.net/xbox-360-dominates-npd-november-console-charts/ 2- The 360 sold like hot cakes in the 26th november because of the black friday. 3- The 360 is not as popular outside the US. 4- You probably wont play halo with kinect. Fortunately Killzone3 will have move support. 5- Kinect isn't outselling move, it is just closing the gap as the PS3 is closing the gap to the 360. http://www.lazygamer.net/playstation-move-breaks-the-4-million-barrier/ http://www.lazygamer.net/the-ps3-is-closing-up-on-the-xbox-360-in-worldwide-sales/ http://www.lazygamer.net/analysts-cant-agree-on-whether-microsoft-has-blown-its-lead-or-not/ Anyways, numbers don't reflect what console is superior it's up to the consumer, so you're happy with your 360 and I'm happy with my PS3. Period

Tennies07
Tennies07

Don't really know a whole lot about the Kinect because I'm a PS3 owner but is it just me or does it feel like both the Kinect and Move launched with a light line up. And yes I fully understand that it takes time but if you were in charge of Sony or Microsoft wouldn't you want to contact game devolpers well before release so that you had a strong launch line up? Well anyways lol, I definately look forward to seeing where the Move and Kinect go from here.

frazzle00
frazzle00

[This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]

frazzle00
frazzle00

[This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]

frazzle00
frazzle00

[This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]

frazzle00
frazzle00

[This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]

MuffintopX
MuffintopX

Sounds like a lot of disappointed Kinect owners next year when they realize they can't play any games with it.

RocSeanD
RocSeanD

Well I guess when you are comparing sales when it comes to bundle packs, I can see why the xbox is out selling the ps3, and the wii. Not that one system is better than the other, but since everyone and their grandma has a motion control option to choose from, price-wise the Xbox 360 makes sense in terms of (4 player) pricing, bundle or peripheral alone. Let's do the math here. And yes I know that Microsoft is making money back, but in the long run it's well deserved after how much money they put into developing the technology, but I digress.......... Wii mote with nunchuck $50.00 Charger $30.00 Total $80.00 on Average per player x3 $240.00 +System $200.00 Total $440.00 That's only $40.00 more than XBOX 360 Kinect Bundle, Not Bad. Sony Playstation Move PlayStation Move Motion Controller $50.00 PlayStation Move Navigation Controller $30.00 PlayStation Move Charging Station $30.00 Controller Total x3+1 PMNC $380.00 Sony Move Bunble $400.00 Total $780.00 In this hurting economy of ours Microsoft actually keeps it cheaper for all your console gaming pleasures. Please note that I was doing this to represent those people that have a household of, or, support 4 or more motion controlled gamers.

yearof3000
yearof3000

[This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]

Toysoldier34
Toysoldier34

@steelmouth Games also hardly break 1 million sales in Japan because it is a smaller country. Japan only has a third of the US's population. So sales numbers coming from Japan are very difficult to compare with US numbers.

DuaneDog
DuaneDog

When Microsoft releases the SDK for Kinect so independent developers can build titles I think we may see some creative things. Tracking a person's movement in 3d space opens up many possibilities. Right now games are mostly family fun type games but it's very impressive how Kinect can pick up velocity, angle and other movements regardless if it is your legs, arms, head, etc. I'm sure the fitness niche alone will be huge money. Great start Microsoft... now open up that SDK!!!!

steelmouth
steelmouth

lmfao i got a warning for simply stating that its the opposite of inteligent to urgur that the x360 sells more because it breaks a lot, lol the moderation log says and i qoute "Reporting user(s) received good mark" congradulations "Reporting User(s)" on the good marks you got, bravo keep it up

steelmouth
steelmouth

I just did a lil math and the x360 is outselling the ps3 in the US by a bigger margin than the ps3 is outselling the x360 in japan, so the only way the ps3 could be clossing the gap let alone be outselling the x360 world wide is if the ps3 is kicking some major major arse in europe, so were are the european sales PS the US and Japan have long been won,the battle for this generation is to be won and lost in europe,so we need the EU sales

TheTwilightGMR
TheTwilightGMR

@helborhamy The article just mentions that yesterdays unrelated report was US numbers. I'm not saying this is the case for sure, but how do we know that this article isn't talking about worldwide numbers? This is just speculation, but it makes mention that the US numbers were yesterdays NPD report and says nothing about this report today being US or worldwide.

helborhamy
helborhamy

@TheTwilightGMR I am pretty sure if you look at the international numbers, you will find that the ps3 outsold xbox360; maybe also the move. This is only a speculation, if you know the real international numbers please tell me.

TheTwilightGMR
TheTwilightGMR

@GamerYnoX: I'd say beating a company 1.37 million units sold to 530,000 units sold would be considered fair domination by any standards. Plus, Kinect outselling Move 5 to 1 would probably be a pretty good indication. To put it in gaming terms that others can understand, that'd be like playing a game of slayer on Halo and one player beating another 25 to 5 as far as the motion accesories are concerned. Call me crazy, but Microsoft is looking good. Now...correct me if I'm wrong now...please, please do...

TheTwilightGMR
TheTwilightGMR

[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]

fangtooth27
fangtooth27

Well im going to help sony increase market by buying a sony ps3 for my christmas present.

helborhamy
helborhamy

@nimrodrg Nimrodrg these comments are for people to say what they want to say and try to get their arguments heard. Sure some of them act like two year olds when they start bashing each other and cursing, However, some people make very good arguments that I actually enjoy reading, so please don't tell people to stop arguing; I want to hear what they think.

Toysoldier34
Toysoldier34

[This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]

Toysoldier34
Toysoldier34

@frazzle00 Continued... I enjoyed Killzone 2 after I put the sensitivity at max and played the campaign. It was a good game yes, but not the game of the year people make it out to be. People called it a Halo killer, but I don't think it is. Halo is a much better game I feel with much more content, even though personally don't like Halo for how arcady it feels. That is my opinion on the game, but I'm not ignorant and just because I don't like it I am still able to acknowledge that it is a great game. Finally, once again you didn't answer my question as no one has. What are the great exclusive games coming to 360 to make me want to renew my Live? Since, if the only reason to play on 360 is Gears and multiplatform games, I will play them on PC for the superior experience. For the ones not on PC I will get for PS3 so I don't have to pay for Live. So far all I have head from people is Forza 4 and Gears 3, from you I heard nothing but insults and you didn't give me any games beyond those two to peak my interest. I'm not looking for reasons to play on my 360 over PS3. I'm looking for reasons to play on something that isn't my PC.

Toysoldier34
Toysoldier34

@frazzle00 Regardless of what you may say a PC gamer is what I am first and foremost and insults really just make you look like a child here. In Heavy Rain with the Move you make the same movements as the characters you control and I'm sure you wouldn't find anything in it because it would be supporting the PS3 and fanboys have mental blocks about seeing good in anything but their own stuff. Also, I'm not sure why you are bringing up 15 year old systems into this. The old systems had their problems as all do and they have learned from the mistakes to make things better. But the 360 has had the worst system reliability of any mainstream system and they only extended warranties and everything else after numerous lawsuits. I never bought a PSP because they are garbage to me, I didn't want to spend so much to play the three or four games that looked good. About giving Killzone a 10, when I rate games I don't give them what I feel they deserve because no one is really going to see it anyways. I exagerate my scoring to make it have just a little more effect on the average score that is displayed. So say a game gets an 8 and I feel it deserves a 9, I will rate 10 to compensate.

Rahnyc4
Rahnyc4

ps3 isnt a great console, but its far better than the xbox 360, thats for sure. i own a ps3, wii and pc and strangely the ps3 is my third most played gaming device. its still a decent console, but man this gen sony is taking a arse kicking. make you wonder how the psp2 and ps4 is going to do next gen. i dont expect too much from them.

pabloxiaoyi
pabloxiaoyi

@jenguando you are right and I'm lucky I have a PS3.........and the online play should be free also for the Xbox owners.......come on Microsoft, don't be so mean......it's Christmas time!!

pabloxiaoyi
pabloxiaoyi

@coaltango I agree....kinect has better marketing.....same story with Black Ops and Battlefield BC2, which is a way better but CoD had ton of marketing and maybe will be shooter of 2010....it's all about marketing.....shame :-[ ..................but KZ3 will rule!!!!

coaltango
coaltango

the kinect has a better marketing strategy than the MOVE. The move will really pick up sales once Killzone 3 hits shelves

TheArcade
TheArcade

grasshopper6: My 360 has lasted me 3 years so what are you talking about?

GamerYnoX
GamerYnoX

@TheTwilightGMR "This is the first article I've read on here that finally explicitly states that Microsoft is dominating the PS3." Where explicitly says Microsoft is dominating PS3? By selling more in the US?

TheTwilightGMR
TheTwilightGMR

This is the first article I've read on here that finally explicitly states that Microsoft is dominating the PS3. Thanks for the info.

Philly1UPer
Philly1UPer

@jenguando Actually, in order to actually play your games online, download some DLC and Demos you HAVE to pay. Along with paying a Netflix subscription and such just makes it seem not worth it to me anymore. Now PSN, you don't have to pay, but you can still play games for free, and you can just pay for downloading the DLC, instead of paying for Live to have access to pay for DLC.

the05birdman
the05birdman

Eh, not really surprising to me. Sony's Move isn't anything new, it just a more accurate Wii in HD. Sony pretty much looked at the Wii controller, made it ugly as s*** and called it a day. At least Microsoft took a chance with the Kinect and made something completely different than everyone else. Kinect is way more intuitive than any controller and literally anyone can play the games which is why it appeals to so many people. If you want to bowl, you pick up the ball and roll it. You want to play soccer, you kick in the direction you want the ball to go. No need to remember what button to press to change the angle of your shot or when to release the trigger to let go of the ball properly.

grasshopper6
grasshopper6

wow so many 360 babies on here trying to make 360 look good I guess they like a console that freezes when played for long time and last about a year before it ain't good no more and have to buy a new one

gamenerd15
gamenerd15

@ jenguando Not every multiplat runs better on 360. Soul Caliber ran even, Tekken 6 ran even, Assassins Creed 2 ran even, Call of Duty, 4, Modern Warfare, World at War, and Black Ops ran even, Prince of Persia, ran even, most games from the end of 08 to now have run evenly on both systems save for a few games, Games like Devil May Cry 4, Castlevania, Dynasty Warriors 6 empires, Bladestorm, Fatal Inertia, alone in the dark all ran better on PS3. Just because you have trouble with the system does not imply everyone else does. Nothing you have pointed out is a fact of truth.

gamenerd15
gamenerd15

@ jenguando What features other than cross game chat and the party system does live have? Once again, if your PS3 takes ages, its you, not the system. How come I can download a gig and half in 8 minutes? The slowness in download does not apply to everyone. @ supernaught360 MGS 4 is not even for download on the store how can you be certain it is 7 GB. Infamous trial version was 7GB, so how can the full game be just as big as a trial version? @ jenguando My complaints about live are the fact that I should not have to buy features I will not use If all I want to do is play the game and nothing else. Sometimes I like to play online, but I don't care about talking to others. Why should I shell out $60 for things I don't care about? If I will not use them, I shouldn't have to pay for it. What you are suggesting is that people who don't want to talk to others should not play online. That is shallow. You both see the system as it was in 2007.

jenguando
jenguando

@ supernaught360 What is Blu ray? :-D

supernaught360
supernaught360

@gamenerd15 Bluray doesn't do crap - if they hadn't used the completely horrible Bink compression in MGS 4 and Castlevania, those games EASILY fit on one DVD 9, do some research. Also: don't you even wonder why the DLC versions of iNfamous, MGS 4 are well under 9 gigs? Think, brother.

supernaught360
supernaught360

@jenguando MGS: 4 almost made me get rid of my PS3 it was so fugly, and Uncharted: 2 didn't impress me much either. Games like iNfamous, Killzone 2, and God Of War 3 have BARELY kept the PS3 in my household, and the bluray function means nil to me - I rent HD movies on XBL.

jenguando
jenguando

[This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]

jenguando
jenguando

[This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]

gamenerd15
gamenerd15

@jenguando Live is a joke in the fact that I have to pay to play online. What if I don't want to talk to people and just want to play games? Why should I have to pay for features I will not use. Why should I have to wait a week to play the newest demos just because I refuse to pay? Why should I be denied access to download network games because I will not pay for online? If your PS3 is taking 3 days to download an update, you have a problem. If the entire update takes more than 7 minutes, you have a problem. The 360 doesn't update in seconds. It downloads the thing and then initializes it. This whole process takes about 8 minutes. Since when does 360 come with a charger for the controller? I didn't get one with mine. You have to buy the charger separately. The PS3 might have to be on, but at least it can charge controllers out of the box. Each console has its pros and cons.

gamenerd15
gamenerd15

@frazzle00 Blu ray makes it possible for games to be put on one disc such as FF 13, Star Ocean 4, and Rage. Star Ocan on PS3 has a Japanese voice option. . Why play a game on multiple discs when you can play it on one. Why does Microsoft put a size cap on what can be put on live? Why is live structured so that MMO's are difficult to get on the system. Regardless of the fact that FF14 is crap, Square had trouble getting it on Live. I still haven't seen a game on 360 that looks as good as MGS 4 or Uncharted. There are some games that come close, but aren't quite up to the same level. To say blu ray has no uses for games is untrue. As far as hardware goes for PS1 and 2. I got a launch PS2 2 months after it came out and never had to buy a new one. I had a disc read error one time with FF7 and that was it. I also had a relatively early PS1 from 96 and it never crapped out. So speak for yourself. Just because you and 5 friends had issues doesn't mean everybody does.

jenguando
jenguando

Wow i must say i am pretty shocked at how badly Move is getting pwned