48GB Titanfall PC install size is to make the game run better on low-spec machines

Uncompressed audio is the culprit behind hefty Titanfall install size on PC.

Titanfall's 48GB install size on PC is so the game is able to run better on low-spec machines, developer Respawn Entertainment has said.

It's all down to the uncompressed audio, Respawn lead engineer Richard Baker explained to Eurogamer. By using uncompressed audio, the game can perform better on less capable hardware.

"When you download the game or the disc itself, it's a lot smaller than that," said Baker. Downloading the game on Xbox One clocks in at around 17GB, whereas reports say the PC download on Origin weighs about 20GB.

"So... it's almost all audio... On a higher PC it wouldn't be an issue. On a medium or moderate PC, it wouldn't be an issue, it's that on a two-core [machine] with where our min spec is, we couldn't dedicate those resources to audio," added Baker.

Titanfall's minimum specifications are comparatively modest compared to many other titles:

  • OS: 64-bit Windows 7, 8, 8.1
  • Processor: AMD Athlon X2 2.8GHz or Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz
  • RAM: 4GB 512MB VRAM
  • Graphics card: Radeon HD 4770 or GeForce 8800GT

Titanfall launched on Tuesday. For more information, check out GameSpot's review.

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maintunez
maintunez

Can anyone who has played both versions report that there is a better gaming experience with the uncompressed audio?

electroban
electroban

Stop crying about the install size as if Max Payne 3 never happened.

Seifer24
Seifer24

2gtx 580 sli and the game still runs like crap.

Fail game is a fail

electroban
electroban

@Seifer24  


I doubt that bro, maybe you should clear out the spiders nest from your CPU fan but that's 100% your end.

draco934
draco934

boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

AuronAXE
AuronAXE

I don't understand something. Low spec PC's have problems with....audio?

Kunakai
Kunakai

@AuronAXE  Not so much the audio, but the act of uncompressing the audio. 

zinten
zinten

@Kunakai @AuronAXE and yet, crappy netbook can uncompress audio while multitasking games without breaking a sweat.

Caldrin
Caldrin

@AuronAXE Well they would have issues yes..


As well as runnig the game it would need to uncomperss the audio on the fly, it all takes up valuable processing time from the CPU. So removing the need to do that will free up resources for the lower spec machines to run the game :) Every little bit helps if you are trying to run the game on a pc with such low specs.

Kooken58
Kooken58

Sounds like a load of crap. Its most likely hidden files of the sort that includes future DLC that is already on your computer. Because it sure is hell isn't those "High Resolution" textures. I have a hard time believing there is over 20GB's worth of audio in this game.
 -puts on tinfoil hat-

billlabowski
billlabowski

@Kooken58  Well seeing as though any video card that has under 3GB of VRAM cannot max this game out, I'd be willing to bet that those high resolution textures are truth. Also, compressed audio can be very difficult on your CPU to unpack in real-time while the game is playing. There is truth to what he is saying. But, you could be right about DLC being already in the game files. They locked down most of the files to where you cannot access them, which is weird for a PC game. They probably don't want us nosing around in the game files, finding DLC already installed, and making a big stink about it to further soil EA's already terrible reputation. 

Kunakai
Kunakai

@billlabowski @Kooken58  I'm not sure they could keep everyone out for too long, this report is coming from the dev's, not EA. I'm not sure why they'd lie about it given they'd only get bad press when they inevitably get called out. 

zinten
zinten

@Kunakai @billlabowski@Kooken58 They did lie about the cloud thing openly for simcity supposedly doing a bunch of game calculation and also telling us that offline was impossible. So its not like it s the first time they will lie without thinking of the repercussion.

pelvist
pelvist

Sounds like a load of crap to me. They could have added the option to install decompressed audio during install. If this is true then the 360 version would be 48gb too, I think we all know why that would never work.

07wintert
07wintert

48gb nearly had a heart attack 

santinegrete
santinegrete

Darn, if you had a small SSD drive of 120GB this game could hog 33% of space or more, that's scary! Imagine how big the game could have been if it also included a campaign! XD

charlesswann
charlesswann

They should just sell it preloaded on a HDD.

chill_chili
chill_chili

So you pay just under a dollar for every gig of game! amiright or amiright?

andmcq
andmcq

It's the Source engine. Exactly how low end do you need to go?

LtReviews
LtReviews

@andmcq  

The Source engine could be 200 years old, and still produce top-notch graphics.


Once you license the same, you can extend and improve it as much as you want. The limit is the developer's ability, not the engine. The engine is merely a starting point.

andmcq
andmcq

@LtReviews @andmcq  Well it's not producing top notch graphics at the moment. They're good, but not great. Also, if that was the case with engines people would just license the Build engine.

trastamad03
trastamad03

You know... they could have just had the installer verify or have a combo box where you could choose an option to install the game according to your hardware.


That being said... Personally, don't care... have enough space on my SSD to install as much as I want.

catsimboy
catsimboy

The uncompressed audio should be given out like how some PC games have recently been letting people download hi-res textures as free optional DLC. That way if you have a good computer you don't need to load up all the extra crap.

Ultramarinus
Ultramarinus

Very definition of bloatware. If audio files are taking up double the game's size for a shooter, you need to stop and think what the heck you're doing.

javalino
javalino

Audio never was something that worth too much!! they are using compressed textures, but not compressed audio!?!?!?!  Just make this an option!! if you have a crap machine, just set  "give me the uncompressed s**t on my slow  HDD". I prefer compressed, because i can install on my SSD.  And now  all will have uncompressed  audio, from a compressed source (hope its at least lossless compression, but i think is lossy,  since the install package is way less than 48GB.)

Gbullet
Gbullet

So a game can´t have a 50 GB size now ? I wonder what people will say when The Witcher 3 comes out and is 50 GB + ... People complain about everything these days.

Ultramarinus
Ultramarinus

@Gbullet Shooter =/= Open-world RPG. Some games are still taking less than one GB. It's all about what you're doing with that size.

Lpedraja2002
Lpedraja2002

Since when is uncompressed audio a bad thing?  I'm tired of battlefield being the only game with phenomenal sound, I know 48gb is big for a fps but if the sound effects are crisper, brighter and fuller due to uncompressed audio then I say its worth it.

o0squishy0o
o0squishy0o

Interesting, I wonder if they think more people have near 50gb free to install a game over still playing PC games like TitanFall with a dual core machine. 

spikepigeo
spikepigeo

It's funny how 48 gigs doesn't feel like that much anymore.

ferna1234
ferna1234

48 GIGS! jeepers creepers!
I used to freak out with diablo 2 being 1 gig.

thorn3000
thorn3000

yeah 49.99GB install size for me, lol

fillup0
fillup0

If your PC can't decode audio while playing a game, it's waaay past time to get a new PC.

LtReviews
LtReviews

@fillup0  

You've SEVERELY underestimated how much audio needs to be decoded for a game with decent sound to work.

onefai
onefai

Darn, I have a "low end" PC....

aborgraffiti
aborgraffiti

A 3 Terabyte hard drive is only $100 it's not a big deal that it takes up a lot of space. I had a 500gb HDD at one point but that just really doesn't cut it.

Zhyr_
Zhyr_

@aborgraffiti  It's more of an issue when you're attempting to run games off a small SSD. After you've installed Windows, general use apps, and a 48gb game on a 120gb SSD, you're not left with much.

BoltNinety
BoltNinety

@Zhyr_ @aborgraffiti  I have a 840 EVO 250gb SSD and have this problem. I have maybe 4 of 5 games installed and only 52gb of space left. 

ratchet3
ratchet3

@aborgraffiti  PC users are moving into SDD, they are small in size but provide faster load times and 50GB for one game is just ridiculous. 

bdiddytampa
bdiddytampa

@Kooken58 I run all my games from a 4TB HDD and the load times are no different from my 250GB drive... Larger drives have bigger caches and more platters and heads, they compensate fairly well, any difference is a matter of seconds at the most, or a fraction of that...

gf61
gf61

@ratchet3 @aborgraffitiI agree, sound files can be big but not that big! For instance a uncompressed song can be 25-50mb. Square has been releasing games with 4 cds worth of music 2.4gb. If next gen. was leaps and bounds above last gen. it would have a leg to stand on.

Zhyr_
Zhyr_

@ratchet3 The reason they're going uncompressed is so the CPU doesn't need to decompress them. It has nothing to do with hard drives, apart from the size.
Anyone who has an SSD, also has a large HDD for general storage. 

Kooken58
Kooken58

@aborgraffiti Unless you have a SSD, no gamer is going to go for a standard HDD over 500GB, the larger the hard drive, the slower load times you are often going to experience.

bdiddytampa
bdiddytampa

@Zhyr_  Installing games on SSDs doesn't do much for you anyway...  

Zhyr_
Zhyr_

@bdiddytampa Depends on the game. Some games need to access large amounts of data. Some need to access many smaller files often.

If you don't believe a decent drive can't affect your games, feel free to try using an older drive and see how that goes :P


It's like saying that a decent CPU won't affect them. Sure, you probably won't see much of a FPS increase, but windows boot time, game loading, etc are all affected.


Your computer is only as good as it's worst component.

Zhyr_
Zhyr_

@bdiddytampa I'm going to assume your 250gb is an SSD, not a HDD; otherwise that comment is wrong. 

As for the difference, it depends on the game and the HDD. BF4 load times can be between 30-60 seconds shorter on an SSD... or was the last time I attempted to play in December.


bdiddytampa
bdiddytampa

@Zhyr_  Yes... an SSD is faster than a HDD, I didn't say anything about SSDs...  Kooken said "no gamer is going to go for a standard HDD over 500GB, the larger the hard drive, the slower load times you are often going to experience"  I was stating that larger HDD aren't slower than the smaller ones, and if they are it wouldn't be noticeable unless you have a stop watch.  My 250 GB drive is a HDD, and it is indeed no faster than my 4TB drive.


I've never had to wait a full minute for load times... on any game that I play, BF4 included :-/ SSDs do speed up load times, there is no doubt, but I've never had such a problem with them that I'd need to spend all that money to buy an SSD just to shave a few seconds off lol :-/ But hey :-) to each their own :-D