2K will show redesigned XCOM shooter in 'a matter of days'

"The XCOM universe is expanding," says 2K.

2K has confirmed the XCOM shooter it announced three years ago has "undergone an evolution" and will be re-revealed in the next few days.

BioShock 2 developer 2K Marin is handling the squad-based tactical shooter. "Announced back in 2010, the game has undergone an evolution since we last showed it to you at E3 2011," wrote 2K on its blog.

2K points to last year's critically celebrated revival of the classic turn-based XCOM. "Firaxis’ critically acclaimed turn-based strategy title, XCOM: Enemy Unknown, has reignited the classic franchise and we feel that the time is right to deliver a new experience within the world of XCOM," says 2K.

Development at 2K Marin has been "explored" and "refined", with 2K saying the "creative development of this game has been a collaborative process of discovery and iteration."

"We can’t wait to share more details with you about the game in only a matter of days," concluded 2K.

Rumours from last year suggested XCOM is now a third-person shooter rebranded as The Bureau. 2K has also asked customers, via a marketing survey, whether they'd rather pay full price or opt for a cheaper downloadable title.

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PodXCOM
PodXCOM

In 2010, 2k Marin said  to vg247 that it doesn't look like X-COM, but it "feel a lot like it":

http://www.vg247.com/2010/06/26/xcom-going-fps-is-almost-ideal-says-pelling/

But of course, they couldn't tell us the truth, because if they did, everyone would know what a bunch of giant liers they are.
Then came 2011's 20 minutes playthrough, and it played like Mass Effect with some of killzone's cover-based gameplay! just look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-SH19sgisEk#t=1459s

Then the new game was leaked, and it showed that for the third time, Marin didn't learn a thing, and just moved it from a first-person to a third-person perspective:

http://kotaku.com/5947737/the-other-xcom-game-might-now-be-a-third+person-shooter

What about the Research? What about Manufacturing, or Base Building, or Agent Control, or even any Strategy? They had more then 3 years to show us what makes this a X-COM game, and they show us nothing. If all that they are going to do is make a boring, linear game, then I don't want X-COM to have anything to do with this awful crap.

Godsire-
Godsire-

Didn't Aliens: Colonial Marines go through this same sort of life-cycle? Yea, games that get a lukewarm reception upon reveal & then get COMPLETELY redone for 3 yrs. usually turn out great!

Cough.......Daikatana.

wavelength121
wavelength121

Why the redesign? It looked fine to me.

Self-entitled fanboy purists must have really whipped out the bitching!

DeathTBO
DeathTBO

I feel like this would be interesting. I hope it is as good as the other great tactical shooters.

acelogan1989
acelogan1989

good i want more tactical shooter , hope it's not like rainbow six vegas

MJ12-Conspiracy
MJ12-Conspiracy

XCOM Tactical shooter kinda sounds interesting....there isn't enough tactical shooters around anymore and the last non military themed one that was good was Star Wars Republic Commando and it was a good game....I'm wiling to give this a shot....

Baelath
Baelath

But XCOM is a strategy game. How is that going to be maintained when it becomes a shooter? Or will it even be maintained at all? 

Honestly, there is so much room for improvement and expansion within the parameters laid out by Enemy Unknown, they could make it 100x better and it would be an insta-classic.

Ghostdog201
Ghostdog201

I'm neutral on this.  I'm a long-time fan of Xcom going back to the original series, but the only thing that concerns me-- or makes me wonder-- is that once you turn it into a shooter, aside from calling it Xcom and having aliens and humans shooting at eachother, how would it be uniquely XCom?  The aspect that made Xcom great (including the recent release) was specifically it's non-realtime game play.  Somehow, and I can't really even describe how without turning my post into WALL OF TEXT, is that the turn-based aspect created a kind of tension unmatched in other games.  Plus the character development gave you a sense of ownership of your squad making you take particular care in their survival. 

Once it gets turned into a shooter, all that (from my perspective) goes out the window leaving a game in the XCom theme, but really having none of the elements that make Xcom... XCom.

commando1992
commando1992

XCOM Enemy Unknown was good, but I'm not sure I'm terribly interested in a shooter. Hopefully they do something interesting. 

SavoyPrime
SavoyPrime

This should be interesting. Looking forward to seeing the changes.

longestsprout
longestsprout

And who really cares with the new xcom we just had? It's not like there's a drought of fps in the market.

BuBsay
BuBsay

If they make it a Metro styled Survival Horror shooter that could honestly work pretty well. Maybe also include a perma-death feature, where you'd lose whatever character you're playing as if you die on a mission.

CommodoreRaslin
CommodoreRaslin

A full blown FPS is not the best direction for a turn based game like Xcom.

What I'd like to see is some type of hybrid in the vein of Valkyria Chronicles.

DoctorTanaka
DoctorTanaka

I hear it takes place on a floating city in the sky. Oh, wait...

AlphaWolF_J
AlphaWolF_J

Finally looks like the penny dropped .

 and they shelved the FPS version they had in mind after seeing syndicate fail hard , but a true xcom style succeed and they are going to try classic rainbow six style.

could turn out well if that's the case

 the thing is i don't really care because i got the xcom experience i wanted already. 

Somebody89
Somebody89

They can do whatever they want with this, I already have the game that I wanted and it came out last year. 

DarpSyX
DarpSyX

Trolling for johny : "That game sux! it won't success as a FPS ever"

2bitSmOkEy
2bitSmOkEy

Now that I've played the truly excellent strategy reboot, I'm not terribly upset that they also plan on releasing an X-Com fps.  I'll keep an eye on it for sure.

EKGProd
EKGProd

So let me guess, they've cancelled the super interesting story driven RPG/FPS that everyone was looking forward to, and turned it into a multiplayer squad based shooter. Yeah, I'm sure everyone will love that.

Pyrosa
Pyrosa

I'm going to give them a chance, although I'm still skeptical (as a fan of the oldest and newest X-Com games).  Now that they've realized that STRATEGY GAMES *DO* STILL WORK, then it sounds like they're willing to add some actual depth to their shooter.  

Also, Bioshock 2 was an excellent sequel, so transferring the game to 2K Marin was a GOOD idea.

Legolas_Katarn
Legolas_Katarn

It looked terrible when it was announced, terrible when they seemed to pretty much change the entire game and showed it again, and now that they did that again it will probably still be terrible.

ziproy
ziproy

I was pretty excited for this game when I first heard about it; squad-management, research, and choosing your missions all from an FPS perspective basically Firaxis game but with a 50s vibe.

Last rumor I heard from Gamespot was that this is a XBL and PSN only affair and that it's been severly reduced in scope.

Fingers crossed but I'm pretty sure this game missed the XCOM boat and am sadly not expecting much

gungrave45
gungrave45

I was really looking forward to this game. I think 2k marin did a great job with bioshock 2 and I am excited to see what they can do with this XCOM game. People should be more open to it being an fps.

BlackaliciousX
BlackaliciousX

@wavelength121 I think they are talking about the mobile/IOS version they're rolling out. I read somewhere that it will be stripped of some of the features, less maps, shorter campaign etc. I could be wrong, but i think that is what they meant by redesigned...

deathstream
deathstream

@Baelath 

Remember Starcraft: Ghost?  It never saw the light of day, but Starcraft fans seemed excited to see other games set in the Starcraft universe.  All I see from X-COM fans is whining.

Also, I don't think you want 2K Marin making a strategy game.

wavelength121
wavelength121

@Baelath No, the other XCOMs were strategy games. This one is a shooter. How is this confusing for you?

stan_boyd
stan_boyd

@Ghostdog201 It will be different, but alot of spinoffs are different, how did mario go from platforming to racing go karts, did it ruin the whole concept of mario? Fallout 3 was vastly different than 1 and 2, yet it maintained that post apocalyptic atmosphere which still kept people captivated. Halo Wars was a fun little RTS based on a FPS franchise. I don't mind if they branch out and try some new things, as long as they continue to make the strategy games as well.

PodXCOM
PodXCOM

@BuBsayIf it's anything like the 20 minutes playthrough, I don't think it will ever be a Survival Horror game.

TheWatcher000
TheWatcher000

@Roweb0t See, this is what I Love About 2K.  They can make things that please everyone. XCom: Enemy Unknown, for True, Old School Souls, that appreciate and remember what the True Spirit of Hardcore gaming is about, and this New XCom, for Dumbed Down, COD Zombies, like yourself

sideshowboots
sideshowboots

@Roweb0t well then go ahead and enjoy your CODs, the rest of us will enjoy GOOD games

DesertEaglex24
DesertEaglex24

@Roweb0t Typical fps frag-head response. Anything that requires me to think instead of mindlessly shooting is boring.

Frost259
Frost259

@Roweb0t 

You sir must be under mind control. The reboot was one of the best games I've ever played corny and boring never once came to mind.

PodXCOM
PodXCOM

@Pyrosa You shouldn't give them a chance, because this is their third chance already. I was hoping after the first outcry, they would get it together. But everything they did was a very watered down version of what X-COM was about.


But the biggest problem is that they just don't care for X-COM. They just wanted to make a Bioshock On Land, but they were given the X-COM name and they didn't want to have anything to do with it.

And it shows: Just look at the 20 minutes playthrough on youtube.  They rip-off Mass Effect's power wheel and they have the balls to say it's like X-COM.

Smokescreened84
Smokescreened84

@gungrave45 Considering how many shooters there are always are that do nothing different, then no, I think the hate for yet another FPS is justified.

stan_boyd
stan_boyd

@wavelength121 @Baelath The same thing was said about Fallout 3 "but fallout is a turn based strategy it can't go first person". Same was said of World Of Warcraft "warcraft is a rts you can't make it into an MMO" even some Bioshock purists though Infinite would be an epic fail cause its not as dark or underwater, or how about Halo Wars, Space Marine or Grand Theft Auto 3.

PodXCOM
PodXCOM

@stan_boyd@Ghostdog201

 1. xcom Interceptor and  Enforcer ruin the whole concept of X-COM-- so, in a way, yes.

2. Mario has hundreds of games, so it's ok for him to go off. But X-COM doesn't have hundreds of games.

3. 2K Marin said this game isn't about X-COM or aliens; it is all about the 60s. They don't care aboutX-COM, strategy, or even being part of X-COM's history. They could rename it Halo and they still wouldn't care.


And I wanted a FPS X-COM (like Alliance), but not like this! I wanted a FPS X-COM with Research, Manufacturing,  Base Building,  Agent Control, and all the things that make up an X-COM game.

Uri-Z
Uri-Z

@Frost259 @Roweb0t corny and boring probably means his marines died over and over again (the corny part) and then had to recreate those same dudes over and over again (the boring part).

I lost maybe a handful, they will be remembered as heroes.

gungrave45
gungrave45

@Smokescreened84 @gungrave45 I think this is highly irrational. There are many fps games that come out and are wildly different, from Metro to Bioshock to Arma, there is plenty of room for differentiation. 

TheWatcher000
TheWatcher000

@Smokescreened84 @Argle @gungrave45 @JJB03 There IS Going to be another XCom Strategy Sequel, So Calm Down.  :)

I do understand your frustration with the Shooter Genre in general though, and it is somewhat justified.  There have been some wonderful Exceptions to the Rule, but over all The Shooter Genre has been overdone and bled dry.

I do think there are some interesting, innovative things that Could be done though, so let's not give up on it just yet.

The ideas are there, it's up to the Developers and Great Minds of the Industry to implement them.

And not outsource them to other companies, and then give us something completely different than what was primised, of course.  (See What I Did there, Randy?)

Argle
Argle

@Smokescreened84 @gungrave45 @JJB03 "heterosexual white man killing people"  you realize your not just describing FPSs, but games in general, right?  and if hes not killing people hes killing demons, or zombies, or whatever.  obviously there are exceptions, but id wager that 8 out of every 10 games released in a given month are "heterosexual white man killing people"

when they say variety, they mean different gameplay mechanics, an engaging story that sets itself apart, likable characters.  i cant believe your boiling a game like Bioshock down to "heterosexual white man killing people. COD junk". 

on topic, i would have much rather seen a second strategy XCOM.  XCOM FPS has me going 'meh'

Smokescreened84
Smokescreened84

@gungrave45 @Smokescreened84 @JJB03 No variety there - heterosexual white man killing people - How is that variety?


We don't need more shooters, we need less of them and other genres having a chance.  X-Com has always worked well as a strategy game, last year's XCOM remake proved that turn based strategy is still as rich and satisfying, as well as viable as ever.

The market is suffering from too much FPS fatigue, there have been far too many for well close to or around twenty years with little to no innovation, especially so thanks to many companies trying to cash in on the success of the COD junk.


There are other genres that should be done more, instead of just yet another shooter.

Smokescreened84
Smokescreened84

@gungrave45 @Smokescreened84 But the FPS genre in general doesn't bring anything new to the market, it's usually some generic heterosexual white man going around killing things, as the XCOM shooter has already shown itself to be.


It won't bring anything new to a market already clogged with far too many copy cat shooters.